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McCain’s Mistake [Novak Column Claims Liberal To Run GOP Convention - McCain Aide Denies]
Townhall.com ^ | 22 March 2008 | Robert Novak

Posted on 03/22/2008 12:28:47 AM PDT by zeestephen

Robert Novak: "John McCain's team that is taking over the Republican Party has decided on Bobbie Greene Kilberg, a liberal Republican from Virginia long detested by conservatives, to run the party's national convention in St. Paul, Minn., in August." - UPDATE: "Politico.com" - "A McCain aide says that Kilberg has not been tapped to run the convention and is only serving as a liasion with the RNC. McCain has not decided yet on who will run the convention, said this source." http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0308/This_will_get_GOP_insiders_a_buzzin.html

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2008rncconvention; democratsbestfriend; kilberg; liberal; liberalagenda; liberalvalues; mccain; novak; rino; rush
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1 posted on 03/22/2008 12:28:48 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Hey McCain, you dumbf#_k libtard R-INO Reagan wannabe. We know you don’t give two or even one sh!t for us conservatives. We know you wouldn’t deign to read a conservative website such as Free Republic. But maybe one of your staff just might, maybe on the basis of “know your enemy.” Well, to you, Mr. or Mrs. low level shlub, please pass on this message.

McCain, we will vote for and even contribute to your campaign because we believe Clinton and Obama are truly dangerous. But even we have our limits. Keep kicking us in the teeth, and we will give up on you. Get it? I hope so.


2 posted on 03/22/2008 12:50:11 AM PDT by piytar
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To: piytar

Just wait until after he’s elected. He’ll make Bush look like Jesse Helms.


3 posted on 03/22/2008 12:52:38 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: piytar

I hope they hear you!


4 posted on 03/22/2008 12:52:56 AM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Yo Obama! IF YOU STAY IN THE PEW, YOU SHARE THE VIEW!!!!!)
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To: piytar

Just re-read that, and saw something I’m ashamed of. Shouldn’t have done it. What am I talking about?

I mispelled “schlub” as “shlub.” Sorry.


5 posted on 03/22/2008 12:54:09 AM PDT by piytar
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To: piytar

“We” will vote for McNasty? Who said I’d vote for McLame? Oh, you mean 70% of freepers...Okay, then. I’m a proud member of the 30% who won’t.

Say, did you see how McJerk had to have Lieberman, our good conservative friend from the other side, hold his hand when he trekked over to Israel? He looked REAL presidential, I’d say. Real presidential...


6 posted on 03/22/2008 1:07:42 AM PDT by levotb
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To: zeestephen

Maybe we DON’T wish to keep our republic, Mr. Franklin!


7 posted on 03/22/2008 1:20:52 AM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: piytar
McCain, we will vote for and even contribute to your campaign because we believe Clinton and Obama are truly dangerous. But even we have our limits. Keep kicking us in the teeth, and we will give up on you. Get it? I hope so.

With all due respect, I will never vote fot this border blurring traitor. We do all have our limits with this man. Mine was Juan Hernandez. That's one Juan too many.

8 posted on 03/22/2008 1:25:19 AM PDT by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: zeestephen
It shows how destroyed conservatism is within the GOP that we can't even have a voice at the RNC. Howard Dean gets the DNC as a consolation prize but conservatives get nothing with the Republicans.

Someone like Tancredo or Hunter needs to step up and bury the dead and rotting elephant corpse with an independent run.

9 posted on 03/22/2008 1:40:20 AM PDT by Perchant
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To: zeestephen

The North Vietnamese ruined his mind. McCain was always wild and spoiled and cratered a few aircraft. He’s the same at age 71. He behaved honorably as a POW. And that was the highlight of his career in public service

McCain = wild & crazy liberal


10 posted on 03/22/2008 1:46:15 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: Captainpaintball

It seems that way.


11 posted on 03/22/2008 1:47:50 AM PDT by Vision ("If God so clothes the grass of the field...will He not much more clothe you...?" -Matthew 6:30)
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To: piytar

I mispelled “schlub” as “shlub.” Sorry........

Rush and Glenn Beck mispronounce it all the time. I got the Yiddish straight from horses mouth and it is.... jshloub


12 posted on 03/22/2008 1:51:42 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: zeestephen

This guy had better watch himself. He’s skating on EXTREMELY thin ice with his constituency.

If he starts pandering to the liberal RINOS at this stage, its time to dump the Republican PArty and leave it twisting in the wind.


13 posted on 03/22/2008 3:43:22 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: piytar

I just sent a note to the RNC - no money from me. My money will go to individuals who are also conservative. None to those who do not support conservative values.


14 posted on 03/22/2008 3:52:01 AM PDT by mathluv
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To: dennisw

Your horse speaks Yiddish? I say neigh neigh.


15 posted on 03/22/2008 4:06:41 AM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: piytar

McCain already knows you wouldn’t vote for him even if he bent over and kissed your rear-end on the steps First Baptist Church.


16 posted on 03/22/2008 4:23:49 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: piytar

McCain, we will vote for and even contribute to your campaign because we believe Clinton and Obama are truly dangerous. But even we have our limits. Keep kicking us in the teeth, and we will give up on you. Get it? I hope so.

LOL! You sound like a battered wife. “If you beat me one more time I’m leaving”! I’ve already given up on McCain. Rumor is that Bob Barr will run, maybe on the Libertarian ticket. He’ll get my vote.


17 posted on 03/22/2008 4:36:26 AM PDT by saganite
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To: Perchant

As an aside. Did anyone see or hear Lincoln Chafee,on Chrissy’s show, call himself a conservative Republican? I nearly threw dinner at the tv.


18 posted on 03/22/2008 4:40:30 AM PDT by surrey
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To: dennisw
McCain was always wild and spoiled and cratered a few aircraft. He’s the same at age 71. He behaved honorably as a POW. And that was the highlight of his career in public service

Yep. That was a "Ransom of Red Chief" moment for the North Vietnamese. McCain, the unruly little offshoot of an impossibly great man, was a bad boy from his cradle. To counter his father's long shadow, he cast a long independent streak.

Whether the Lord was testing McCain, or the Devil was, in the childhood, the Academy, the saloons, the crashes and the captivity, it's safe to conclude McCain fought to a draw with a supernatural Power. No one beats him for sheer cussedness in the bantam class of bad boy.

And yes, there is much to admire in the convergence of such a man and such a series of experiences. Will I vote for him? Hell no, redacted for real profanity.

19 posted on 03/22/2008 4:47:23 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (VA is for lovers, but PA is the Saudi Arabia of coal.)
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To: Perchant
There never was a conservative GOP. It's always been a big government, liberal party. Reagan was a post Nixon aberration and conservatives were/are delusional in thinking that even in the GOP that Reagan had fundamentally changed the elitist, power worshiping, money trading Washington loving, fly over country hating GOP.
20 posted on 03/22/2008 4:51:23 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: zeestephen
Mcnasty may lose this yet. He has not secured millions of Conservative votes yet. I will not stand for one more spit in the collective Conservative face... not again!

LLS

21 posted on 03/22/2008 4:56:52 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Could I ever vote for mcstain? osamabama hussein may convince me yet!)
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To: saganite

“LOL! You sound like a battered wife. “If you beat me one more time I’m leaving”!”

That was my thought too and after many years of enduring their march to the left I’m finally over the GOP. Voting for one party because the alternative is worse just doesn’t appeal to me any longer. 2006 was the end of that era for me. McCain’s nomination is just the nail in the coffin.

I’d like to be at least mildly excited when I haul my rear end out of bed on election day to head to the polls and it just ain’t there this time around.

I know that a majority here will vote for McCain simply as a vote against HObamanation. That’s cool—I’m not going to begrudge anyone that. I just hope that an apparently small number of us here are afforded the same courtesy for deciding that we’ve had enough.

Where did you hear the rumor that Barr may run? Is he still working for the ACLU?


22 posted on 03/22/2008 5:25:06 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: LibLieSlayer

Why should he care about securing conservative votes?

He’s probably more excited about wooing the liberals who are threatening to cross over and vote for him if their candidate doesn’t get the nomination.


23 posted on 03/22/2008 5:27:20 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: Nickname

Here’s the thread on Barr

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1989135/posts


24 posted on 03/22/2008 5:39:53 AM PDT by saganite
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To: Leisler
There never was a conservative GOP. It's always been a big government, liberal party.

Not always. I wouldn't call Rutherford B. Hayes or William McKinley big-government liberals. And Warren Harding seriously downsized the federal government, after two decades of growth, during his presidency.

Harding and his successor, Calvin Coolidge, were, arguably, the last Jeffersonians to occupy the White House.

25 posted on 03/22/2008 5:44:01 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: zeestephen

Even if McCain wins the democrats win. He has spent more time on their side of the isle than on the republican.


26 posted on 03/22/2008 5:45:40 AM PDT by engrpat
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To: piytar

I will vote for John McCain only if someone holds a loaded gun to my head while in the voting booth.

No freakin’ way.


27 posted on 03/22/2008 5:47:22 AM PDT by kjo
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To: saganite

Thank you.

Plenty to think about there.


28 posted on 03/22/2008 5:47:35 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: kjo

Tell us again, one more time...... who are you not voting for?


29 posted on 03/22/2008 5:48:53 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Never say never (there'll be a VP you'll like))
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To: zeestephen
Speaking of St. Paul....

Sara Jane Olson [Kathleen Soliah] will return to St. Paul

30 posted on 03/22/2008 5:49:29 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
And speaking of Minnesota....

Tempers flare on House Floor over Immigrant Sanctuary Cities

What's not to love, eh, McQueeg?

31 posted on 03/22/2008 5:51:29 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Perchant

You will never win with a simon pure candiate. If put forward, he will be defeated. The national numbers are currently not in your favor.

Learn to live with it.

Zealotry is counter productive.


32 posted on 03/22/2008 5:51:49 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Never say never (there'll be a VP you'll like))
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To: Ben Ficklin

Guess you can’t read — I exlicitly said that I (like many if not most freepers) WILL vote for him to keep Hiilary or Obama out, but NOT if he keeps kicking us in the teeth. No kissing or bending over needed, just stop making us his whipping boys/gals.

Sheesh. Read much?


33 posted on 03/22/2008 5:57:46 AM PDT by piytar
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To: saganite

“You sound like a battered wife.”

Apt analogy. There are limits, though. Think “Burning Bed.”


34 posted on 03/22/2008 5:58:58 AM PDT by piytar
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To: Nickname
That is a distinct possibility... we shall see how politically dumb that mcnasty and his handlers truly are. My eyes are now and have always been... wide open.

LLS

35 posted on 03/22/2008 6:02:40 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Could I ever vote for mcstain? osamabama hussein may convince me yet!)
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To: piytar

BTW, that was an ANALOGOUS reference — the political version of the burning bed is staying at home or even voting third party on election day.

/just in case there are some thought police about


36 posted on 03/22/2008 6:03:18 AM PDT by piytar
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To: dennisw
He behaved honorably as a POW.

Really? I wonder if Congressman Sam Johnson behaved as honorably as MeInsane during his nearly seven years as a POW?

37 posted on 03/22/2008 6:06:11 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Whether the Lord was testing McCain, or the Devil was, in the childhood, the Academy, the saloons, the crashes and the captivity, it's safe to conclude McCain fought to a draw with a supernatural Power. No one beats him for sheer cussedness in the bantam class of bad boy.

On the physical side the North Vietnamese sadists hung him up by his arms (cuffed behind probably) and dislocated them at the shoulder. He can't really raise his arms too well to comb his hair

Plus I could swear I read they knocked his teeth out and/or they rotted due to malnutrition so he got complete dentures when he got back home. I think this shows in the way he grits his teeth when he smiles. He's about 5 foot 6 I hear

I can just imagine what he thinks when he sees a bright and shiny and well coifed Mitt Romney with five healthy strapping boys. None ever in the military. McCain is thinking---You faggy little millionaire businessman with your big ass business deals and your 300 mil in the bank. You never got in a place where you welcomed death. F U! damn right I'll lie about you. You have years ahead anyway where you can run for president after I screw you out of it

McCain has a son in the military. McCain  is a cross between old school + wild Vietnam Warrior

38 posted on 03/22/2008 6:10:19 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: zeestephen

McCain is just stuck on stupid.

RINOS are proof yo can’t fix stupid.


39 posted on 03/22/2008 6:12:51 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: dennisw

LOL. I’d be proud to call him family. Still, I’m not voting for him.


40 posted on 03/22/2008 6:18:30 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (VA is for lovers, but PA is the Saudi Arabia of coal.)
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To: mewzilla
Meanwhile....

McCain snubs Barletta

41 posted on 03/22/2008 6:19:55 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Luke21

You are correct. I have said repeatedly that one year into the next administration, no matter who wins, you will see the most vitriolic of anti-Bush Freepers longing for the “good old days” under Bush.


42 posted on 03/22/2008 6:28:54 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Norman Bates; TitansAFC; meandog; onyx; MARTIAL MONK; Kuksool; freespirited; Salvation; ...
McCain Ping!

A big, big misstep by John McCain. This campaign is starting to look like Bob Dole's 1996 campaign on steroids, and with more retards running the show.

If John McCain isn't interested in Conservative outreach (the whole of his Conservative outreach so far is to TELL Conservatives that “Conservatives are supporting me because...”), then he should at least avoid major, bull-headed, thumb-in-Conservatives’ eyes mistakes like this. He has to realize, at some point before Obama’s swearing-in, that many Conservatives are considering cutting their losses, and many others are teetering on the brink, basically one misstep like this away from sitting-out 2008.

I am a man desperate to keep Obama and/or Clinton out of the White House, especially with the SCOTUS changes that WILL happen in the next administration. But let me tell you, John McCain's appointment record so far, when given full control over who runs what, is DEVASTATINGLY awful. I mean, it would be hard to do worse if you tried. It makes me seriously question his judgment on important appointments, and whether or not he is even interested in reconciling with Conservatives. I greatly fear that this man is going to let his good friend, Lindsay Graham, push his choice for SCOTUS - Karen Williams - to be McCain's nominee. For anyone who is paying attention, Karen Williams has all the makings of being another mostly Conservative but Pro-Roe (either by agreeing with the verdict or by stare decisis) SCOTUS justice, and Graham has been pushing her HARD to the Bush administration.

I have to say, as a man ready to pound the pavement for John McCain to defeat the Democrats, he is working OVERTIME trying to take away all of my Pro-McCain arguments.

I will still work for and vote for John McCain because of what's at stake. But at some point - sometime before he goes down like Dole - he has to realize that he needs Conservatives to win. The liberal GOP is already behind him, they don't need more presents from Santa Claus to stay on board.

This woman ran a solid Conservative, and good Conservative outreach member of the Bush administration, out of his job. She has been an active enemy of Conservatives, not just a passive Social Libertarian or something of the like. This is a colossal blunder by McCain, and yes I'll say it: it's a punch in the jaw to Conservatives, and an intentional one at that.

I hope he rethinks this one big time, especially before he names Giuliani, Graham, or Hutchinson his Veep candidate.

Man, this is a bad, bad, BAD move by McCain. But yes, I am still going to work to defeat Clintbama.

43 posted on 03/22/2008 6:34:26 AM PDT by TitansAFC (May no Republican ever win in NY again - unless they're foreign-born.)
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To: Fiji Hill

Yeah, true. Although Lincoln was big, ditto Teddy, America’s first ‘Progressive’. Nixon, Ford, both Bush’s. I’m on the fence with Ike. Hoover, very big. Blank spot on Taft.


44 posted on 03/22/2008 6:34:48 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: LS

That only proves this nation moves leftward every year. Ronald Reagan was the best rolling back of this drift. Then George Bush was neutral. Clinton was a commie scoundrel. GW Bush continued leftward except for his war on terror and Iraq and Afghanistan wars. But open borders all the way...the multi-kultis love him. Aye arriba!!!

Imprime uno para ESpanol
Imprime dos para Ingles


45 posted on 03/22/2008 6:40:39 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: bert
Zealotry is counter productive.

I think your right...MC Cain is not a pure conservative, but as the nominee he is all we have.. writing in a candidate is as bad as staying home on election day!

46 posted on 03/22/2008 7:04:40 AM PDT by oswegodeee (Dee ( Born and raised in the south, yummy corn bread and BBQ ))
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To: dennisw
The nation has "moved leftward" since the Founding. Every single president, including TJ and Andrew Jackson, have increased per capita government spending and employment. But in many ways, the nation has moved "rightward." As I said above, personal liberties are FAR greater for FAR more people than they were 100 years ago. This is flat-out undeniable. Just 50 years ago, black people couldn't vote, let alone run for president. We have, in general, more freedom today on where and how to spend our money than 100 years ago; more freedom from government interference in our personal lives in terms of speech, searches, and so on.

It's a mixed bag. You could also argue that there were virtually NO borders prior to the 1950s---certainly in the 1800s, any Mexican who wanted to could cross and set up a farm in the interior of the country. Now, becoming a citizen was quite different. But they didn't want to cross, in general, because there was no welfare, and working in the U.S. was not much different (then) than working in Mexico.

So it's one thing to argue leftward drift in terms of big-spending government and socialized medicine, quite another when it comes to civil rights and personal intrusion laws. Jefferson would be far more in tune with our 2008 personal liberty laws than he would have with the laws of the 1950s or 1890s.

47 posted on 03/22/2008 8:58:42 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: piytar
McCain, we will vote for and even contribute to your campaign

LOL!

Nothing else you said matters, you've fallen into his trap, you have no leverage..

48 posted on 03/22/2008 9:02:06 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: LS

America has been moving left ever since Franklin Roosevelt and the laws he changed adopting many socialist measures in the Great Depression. Perhaps some socialism was necessary to get out of the Depression. I’m not sure

There have been respites and rollbacks but the left has steadily been taking over cultural institutions such as education arts journalism. Even lawyers used to pretty much middle of the road to conservative. Now they are leftists.

That’s why John McCain is as as good as we can get these days. Reagan was the last great president. Too many people get government checks these days and too many work for government. Too many pay no Federal taxes. Too many get a lazy socialism preached to them in public schools

The right has brought on some of this with a hyper capitalism that sees nothing wrong with exporting skilled jobs and running up huge trade deficits that kill the US dollar and kill respect for America. The poor and middle class would not be inclined to Hillary/Obama if there were more good paying jobs out there and I’m not talking about office jobs because lots of guys have too much testosterone to handle that shit. Plus they’re not as smart as you and me. Smart mechanically but not as intellectually and as paper jockeys


49 posted on 03/22/2008 11:01:28 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: LS
We have, in general, more freedom today on where and how to spend our money than 100 years ago; more freedom from government interference in our personal lives in terms of speech, searches, and so on.

That personal freedom means little when we hit a depression. And we seem to heading to one. Matter of fact people gave up freedoms during the Great Depression and men bunked and worked communally in great socialist works projects building dams roads and our National Forest accommodations. Many which date back to then 

Plus the civilian conservation corps

50 posted on 03/22/2008 11:07:03 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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