Posted on 03/22/2008 1:14:00 PM PDT by Joiseydude
The alleged gang member accused of killing Los Angeles high school football star Jamiel Shaw is in the country illegally and had been released from jail without anyone questioning his citizenship the day before Shaw's shooting, according to a report by MyFOXLA.com.
Meanwhile, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa on Saturday afternoon was scheduled to join with Shaw's family to dedicate a memorial honoring the 17-year-old at the spot where he was killed.
Police say Pedro Espinoza, the 19-year-old suspect arrested in Shaw's death, has been in a street gang since he was 12. Until this month, he had been in jail on charges of exhibiting a firearm and obstructing an officer, MyFOXLA.com reports
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Now, after he have housed, fed, and clothed him at the federal level, the state of California gets to house, feed and clothe the guy. Maybe there is something to sneaking in this country-we have allowed ourselves to be the providers to everyone who asks...
Damn undocumented entrant! And, he was about to get his Z-visa after McCain is elected.
Everyone go home. Nothing to see here. Innocent lives lost are a negligible expense weighed against the benefits we’ll all reap from The New World Order.
committing the crimes that Americans refuse to do.
During the Iraq war, more Americans have been murdered
by Illegal Aliens than solders killed in the war in Iraq.
Villaraigosa is part of the problem.
Villaraigosa needs to explain to this kids parents why keeping LA a sanctuary city is a good thing.
What does El Presidente Jorge Bush have to say to the hundreds of American families who get those calls each year?
For Bush-lovers who claim "We haven't been attacked since 9-11..." what do you call the daily attacks on Americans by illegal aliens because we have no homeland security??
Just killing the Americans that Americans are too lazy to kill.
Give him a pathway to citizenship asap!
Just one of the nice fellows who would have gotten John McCain’s amnesty....
Don’t forget, you don’t care about the troops if you don’t vote for McQueeg. Never mind the mother serving in Iraq who got that call.
That invasion is turning out to be more deadly to US citizens than the war in Iraq is to our own hero soldiers.
Maybe the black community needs to demand their Democrat Party to do something about the border. Hmmm
Bump.
Only Fox is reporting this.
Surprised?
It's a violent invasion of millions that has cost tens of thousands of American lives.
The pro- big government hacks that have infiltrated the Republican party chose to ignore this, basically joining their leftist anti-American counter parts in the Democratic party.
Why else would they pick a pro-illegal alien, open borders candidate to run for President?
By a factor of about ten, even including Afghanistan and the victims of 9-11..
GTFOOMC!!
Another tragic instance of a child victimized by gun violence, and yet another attempt to demonize/`sub-humanize’ another of our hard-working, law-abiding, undocumented immigrants.
sarc/level/red
Has this man no shame?
Let’s not forget the violent Mexican drug cartels have infiltrated the Mexican police too with corruption. Violence just across the border can and will continue to seep into the USA
and more illegals will try to flee here.
The hardliners like to search thru the news and find examples of illegal crime and post it in hopes that it will influence public opinion to think that all illegals are criminals. Or, diseased.
And sometimes it becomes very sophisticated mis-info. Look at Steve King's or Mac Johnson's bogus "study" about how many Americans are murdered by illegals. Previously, the hardliners liked to use Heather McDonald's study, but they had to abandon her study because she distinguished between illegal aliens and criminal aliens.
“The hardliners like to search thru the news and find examples of illegal crime and post it in hopes that it will influence public opinion to think that all illegals are criminals. Or, diseased.”
Are you serious?
“Look at Steve King’s or Mac Johnson’s bogus “study” about how many Americans are murdered by illegals.”
No, you go tell that to the Shaw family, and all the
families of Americans killed by drunken illegal aliens.
How come the freepers never post any of the uncountable number of stories on murder, other than stories involving illegals?
You can look at it in another way. The particular story above is about a criminal alien who is involved in drug importation and distribution. He ain't here to pick peaches or lay brick.
BTW, that number of how many Americans are killed by drunk driving illegals is also based on a bogus study.
Drunk driving is a serious problem. If you google it, there are uncountable articles, but if you read FR, you would think that only illegals drive drunk.
“For Bush-lovers who claim “We haven’t been attacked since 9-11...” what do you call the daily attacks on Americans by illegal aliens because we have no homeland security??”
AMEN!
“What does El Presidente Jorge Bush have to say to the hundreds of American families who get those calls each year?”
That if Americans don’t support amnesty, we are “racists” and “bigots.”
5 kids killed in Michigan and Minnesota by illegals in a two day period last month.
That’s sobering. Wow.
Eggxactly, D’Togo! Bush has American blood on his hands, and it’s mostly the blood of innocent Americans (to the tune of more than 25 per day) killed or murdered bu illegals.
Mayor Tony Villar (his real name) is a Communist/reconquista and needs to be run of of town and this country on a rail. The citizens of L.A. need to throw this creep out. VOTE FOR MOORE!!
The name is actually “Ben Fricklin”, not “Ficklin”...
I think you’re missing a point here... the point is not that a murder done by an illegal alien is worse than a murder done by a citizen. The point is that this crime by illegal aliens could have been entirely prevented in the first place by simply enforcing the law. Illegal alien crime is a compound crime in and of itself as well as something that compounds the effects of illegal immigration.
Crimes done by Americans are bad, but in general there’s no one to blame but the criminal himself. Crimes done by illegals, on the other hand, have been made possible by our own government as well as all of their political and business enablers.
As far as disease goes... just check out the TB stats, and the emergence of a host of third-world diseases common to source nations of illegals but which either have never been seen in the US or have been long eradicated.
I bet you wouldn’t dream of making excuses for Islamic terrorists... there’s no valid way to make excuses for illegal alien terrorists, who have racked up a body count (plus a million sex crimes and assorted other attacks on US citizens) far in excess of anything the Islamics have ever done to us,
You’re full of baloney. Rep Steve King knows what he’s talking about. The numbers are at least 12 Americans mudered EACH DAY by illegals and at least 13 killed by drunken driving illegals (without lawful licenses, natch)...making 25 per day killed at the hands of illegals. Here’s the best piece on the subject written by Joe Farah of WND in 2006:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53103
He states:
Illegal aliens murder
12 Americans daily
Death toll in 2006 far overshadows total
U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq, Afghanistan
By Joseph Farah
© 2008 WorldNetDaily.com
WASHINGTON – While the military “quagmire” in Iraq was said to tip the scales of power in the U.S. midterm elections, most Americans have no idea more of their fellow citizens – men, women and children – were murdered this year by illegal aliens than the combined death toll of U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan since those military campaigns began.
Though no federal statistics are kept on murders or any other crimes committed by illegal aliens, a number of groups have produced estimates based on data collected from prisons, news reports and independent research.
Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That’s 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001.
Total U.S. troop deaths in Iraq as of last week were reported at 2,863. Total U.S. troop deaths in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Uzbekistan during the five years of the Afghan campaign are currently at 289, according to the Department of Defense.
(Story continues below)
But the carnage wrought by illegal alien murderers represents only a fraction of the pool of blood spilled by American citizens as a result of an open border and un-enforced immigration laws.
While King reports 12 Americans are murdered daily by illegal aliens, he says 13 are killed by drunk illegal alien drivers – for another annual death toll of 4,745. That’s 23,725 since Sept. 11, 2001.
While no one – in or out of government – tracks all U.S. accidents caused by illegal aliens, the statistical and anecdotal evidence suggests many of last year’s 42,636 road deaths involved illegal aliens.
A report by the AAA Foundation for Traffic Study found 20 percent of fatal accidents involve at least one driver who lacks a valid license. In California, another study showed that those who have never held a valid license are about five times more likely to be involved in a fatal road accident than licensed drivers.
Statistically, that makes them an even greater danger on the road than drivers whose licenses have been suspended or revoked – and nearly as dangerous as drunk drivers.
King also reports eight American children are victims of sexual abuse by illegal aliens every day – a total of 2,920 annually.
Based on a one-year in-depth study, Deborah Schurman-Kauflin of the Violent Crimes Institute of Atlanta estimates there are about 240,000 illegal immigrant sex offenders in the United States who have had an average of four victims each. She analyzed 1,500 cases from January 1999 through April 2006 that included serial rapes, serial murders, sexual homicides and child molestation committed by illegal immigrants.
As the number of illegal aliens in the U.S. increases, so does the number of American victims.
According to Edwin Rubenstien, president of ESR Research Economic Consultants, in Indianapolis in 1980, federal and state correctional facilities held fewer than 9,000 criminal aliens. But at the end of 2003, approximately 267,000 illegal aliens were incarcerated in all U.S. jails and prisons.
While the federal government doesn’t track illegal alien murders, illegal alien rapes or illegal alien drunk driving deaths, it has studied illegal aliens incarcerated in U.S. prisons.
In April 2005, the Government Accountability Office released a report on a study of 55,322 illegal aliens incarcerated in federal, state, and local facilities during 2003. It found the following:
The 55,322 illegal aliens studied represented a total of 459,614 arrests – some eight arrests per illegal alien;
Their arrests represented a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses – some 13 offenses per illegal alien;
36 percent had been arrested at least five times before.
“While the vast majority of illegal aliens are decent people who work hard and are only trying to make a better life for themselves and their families, (something you or I would probably do if we were in their place), it is also a fact that a disproportionately high percentage of illegal aliens are criminals and sexual predators,” states Peter Wagner, author of a new report called “The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration.” “That is part of the dark side of illegal immigration and when we allow the ‘good’ in we get the ‘bad’ along with them. The question is, how much ‘bad’ is acceptable and at what price?”
First, the organized anti-illegal movement is also anti-immigrant.
Second, the hispanic crime rate has always been higher than the white crime rate. It may vary with the particular crime, but it is higher. The exception to this is white collar crime.
BTW, these "million sex crimes" that you mention is also based on a bogus study.
As for the Islamic versus the Hispanic, the Hispanic will be chosen because they are Christians.
Hi levotb. I see you are a Walter Moore fan. Me to. I met him when he used to keep a boat down in the local Marina here.
He was running against Villar at the time and I went over and introduced myself and we talked for a while. He was shocked to be recognized as he had and still somewhat has, a name recognition problem. The voters here aren’t serious and it shows in who runs the city and the State as well.
If they put Old Uncle Tom Bradley back on the ballot here he’d still get a 110% of the vote in Compton. No one knows anything. It’s just Rat good conservatives bad. Halliburton sucks.
Regards
King’s bogus study, and other bogus studies, are based on incarceration rates. There is no relationship between crime rates and incarceration rates.
Yeah but his parents probably came here to and instead of taking advantage of the FREE education we pay for he chose to become a gang banger and murderer.
Just this morning I was having a conversation with a grandmother. She grew up in our town when the roads were still dirt and it was nothing but farmland. She lives in a house in a subdivision where her family once farmed. Knowing where she lived and what it has become I asked her if she would consider moving. She said her part of town is now called Little Mexico and it’s BAD, but she doesn’t want to move. Please point to a place where illegals have moved and the entire area didn’t become a sh!t hole. You can’t.
If that was my son, I wouldnt let the Mayor near his memorial...
No, you are missing the point. In two ways.
First, the organized anti-illegal movement is also anti-immigrant.
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No, you are you one who is wrong...
This has NOTHING to do with denying immigration...
Ilegal aliens are anti-immigration...
Americans who do not want illegal aliens to break into our country are pro-immigration...
but this has to do with giving 30,000,000 illegal aliens AMNESTY, and just letting them waltz in here and take over...and dictate to us that we have to provide them with bennies that American citizens dont get...
meanwhile continuing to commit further crimes and rape and murder Americans with impunity
If you like the illegal aliens so much, take some to your own house and cloth them, feed them and put a roof over their heads...
with your OWN money...
nobody is stopping you...
ping!
Now who would’ve thought that would happen??? < / sarc
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