Posted on 03/22/2008 3:18:16 PM PDT by madison10
It's just as you suspected - this has been the snowiest winter ever in the Ann Arbor area, or at least since 1880 when record-keeping started.
And it's not over yet.
That's because we're not even into April, a month that normally averages almost 2.5 inches of that pesky white stuff.
If this winter continues the way it's been going, we could be in store for more than that.
Consider this month.
Normally in March, we get about 8.3 inches of snow, said Dennis Kahlbaum, a University of Michigan weather observer. So far in March, with more than a week to go, we've seen 16.7 inches of fluffy precipitation.
A good chunk of that came Friday night and early Saturday morning.
The storm - a narrow band across southern Michigan - dropped 7.5 inches of snow in Ann Arbor, Kahlbaum said.
That was enough to send this winter into the record books and shove the 2004-05 winter aside.
In 2004-05, 83.9 inches of snow fell. This year, we're sitting at 85 inches. That's a lot of shoveling.
"It seems like I've shoveled a lot this year," said Tori Williamson, 49, who was in front of her Ypsilanti home Saturday. "I've always been fine with shoveling, but now I'm thinking about a snowblower for next winter."
Hence the need for the Goreloonies to dump the term “global warming” and start talking “climate change.” They’re making sure they’ve got all the bases covered.
Bush’s fault! /sarc
There is something very funny about this: it turns out that the computer models that Al Gore and his acolytes have turned into oracles even beyond the stupidity of trying to give a discrete model of a continuous chaotic dynamical system had another element of garbage in to contribute to the garbage out: they didn’t include the negative feedback that would occur when the sea ice melt increased humidity in the arctic and subarctic regions, resulting in more snowfall on land and a consequent increase in the albedo of the Northern Hemisphere.
Dolts. GIGO.
I have a colleague who’s been fretting about global warming. I’ve been pointing out the extra-snowfall negative feedback for years, and at lunch the other week, he finally got it—told me what I’d been saying for years as if it was news—because he read it from some professional climate modeler.
I think climate modeling should probably be turned over to mathematicians instead of being left in the hands of folks who don’t seem to understand what Poincare knew at the turn of the 20th century about what’s now called ‘chaotic dyanamics’, or maybe to Shakespeare scholars who at least know ‘there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy’, and wouldn’t presume that their models were complete.
Weather Service: Whitest Easter in Detroit in decades
The Associated Press
(AP) It's going to be a white Easter across much of Michigan.
Already digging out from a storm that buried the state under up to 10 inches of snow near the Ohio border, forecasters are predicting a chance of snow showers Sunday across most of the Lower Peninsula and the western Upper Peninsula.
The Good Friday storm officially dropped 7.3 inches of snow at Detroit. The National Weather Service says above-freezing temperatures melted some of the white stuff on Saturday, but 6 inches likely will be on the ground Sunday.
Forecasters say records going back to 1900 show the most snow reported on the ground in Detroit on Easter Sunday was 2 1/2 inches on April 4th, 1920.
I'm in mid-state and only have about 4’ left in my back yard.
I'm calling for a class action suit against gorebore for Breach of Contract. I have been counting on some GW! Looks like I'll need the snowshoes for first day of fishing - 1 April
bttt

Just when we thought we might be done with it.... Six new inches fell yesterday and last night.

It was one of the snowiest nasty days in a long time..

That Al Gore might eventually roast in hell for perpetrating this global warming scam is poetic justice.
Totally normal snowfall in Fairbanks. About three feet. Most I have seen here was ten feet and that brought down a lot of flat roof buildings.
A friend of mine in Muskegon, MI called me yesterday. He was at his window watching it snow and still had two feet of snow on his lawn.
It’s the month of March. What happened to Global Warming?
Record snowfall ping.
Milwaukee is up to the 2nd snowiest winter ever, and it ain’t over yet. Took me two hours to blow out my little driveway this morning.
Yep, I’m waiting for my FEMA trailer to show up any minute now.
Not even remotely breaking news. Trust me on that, I’ve been shoveling that crap all winter!

My friend is up in Dolores, CO this weekend, shoveling 4’ of snow off his cabin roof. Heaviest accumulation in 25 years.
I told him to keep an eye out for Manbearpig!
Here in Utah, it’s another record snowfall season. I’m just laughing my butt off because, at the beginning of the ski season, the greenies were publishing articles saying that snowfall for the nation’s ski areas are facing 30-year lows. By the year 2025, the ski areas are supposed to be all out of business because global warming won’t even allow snow to accumulate. Uh huh!!
Thank G-d the global-warming experts predicted this record snowfall
so that cities could stock up on salt and other road-clearing material.
(/SARC...because IIRC a number of cities that got hit hard by snow
this year even ran out of their salt stores...of course, I only heard
a short snippet of that on the news. I doubt any real “journalist”
wants to really publicize this sort of news!)
I lived in Milwaukee 1974-1987 and was a member of the Milwaukee Nordic Ski Club for many of those years. With the possible exception of the 1977-1978 winter, we never had anywhere near that much snow. Indeed, the skiing season was mainly January and February with a bit of mush left in March. What always irritated me about it was that I’d just get my technique and conditioning going when the snow would all melt and set me back to square one until the next season.
I lived in Milwaukee 1974-1987 and was a member of the Milwaukee Nordic Ski Club for many of those years. With the possible exception of the 1977-1978 winter, we never had anywhere near that much snow. Indeed, the skiing season was mainly January and February with a bit of mush left in March. What always irritated me about it was that I’d just get my technique and conditioning going when the snow would all melt and set me back to square one until the next season.
I accept. Send money.
Your winter is warmer than normal,
Winter (Dec-Feb) 2008 - 22.0°
Winter (Dec-Feb) 1901 - 2000 Average = 21.46 degF
Winter (Dec-Feb) 1896 - 2008 Trend = 0.10 degF / Decade

Even worse they claim Michigan's January was 3.7° above normal.
So who are you Michiganers trying to kid, I'm suppose to believe your lying eyes over such distinguished scientific luminaries such as Al Gore & James Hansen.
SO tell the truth, there's been little snow and in reality you just hanging out by the pool. Global Warming activist would never lie now would they.
Get htis htough- the glabalwarming nuts are blaming the cold and snow on man made warming saying that the upset in atmosphere has caused shifts in patterns- I’m telling ya- common sense simply will NOT win against htose nutcases- no matter what happens, it’s the fault of us vile human beings according to them!
I’ll take a “warm white winter” over a cold dry one any day..
On Drudge, yesterday, a scientist wrote that global warming had ENDED 10 years ago. No wonder the MW is getting creamed or snowed and talking about snowed, the public has been snowed by Gore and the Whackoes on this con job!!
It’s breaking news when it’s a record, is it not?
Alitle crabby are we? Winter too long? The phrase “mind your own business” applies here.
Who was it, was is Mark Rwain that said there were three types of lies?: lies (specialty of the Democrats), damn lies (specialty of the Democrats), and statistics (specialty of the Democrats).
No, it’s not breaking news when it’s a record. They call it breaking news because it’s important enough and time-sensitive enough to warrant breaking into a radio or TV broadcast to get it out. Do you think any TV or radio station in the country broke into a broadcast to tell people there was a lot of snow this winter?
If this thread belongs in breaking news, almost any non-sports story does. As for “’mind your own business’ applies here,” perhaps you should apply “don’t take things personally.”
Don't be a tattletale and I won't. :)
I’m curious. Where are these temperature devices located. Hmmmm....
Yeah, but it’s a WARM snow...hee hee( sarc/)
Made the tenth snowiest in Toledo friday night, then got more snow Saturday (ugh-for easter). About four more inches total, which has now moved us up to at least the NINTH snowiest in recorded history. More on the way next week. God, I’m so sick of it.
Sometimes when the temperature goes up there is more showfall. How do the annual temperatures compare with the snowfall abnormalities over time in the Middle West?
We’ve had the most snow ever in NH. Over 225 years of recorded snowfall and 2007/2008 had the most... We could use some warming.....
Wet snow, not dry. Warm snow. Al Gore said we could expect warm snow.
Don’t know if this link will work, but the caption for the picture posted yesterday (Easter) by a Greenlander on Weatherunderground is
“Caption:
Our neighbours house is nearly covered with snow....The red house to the right is our house. As I remember it , we always have sunshine to Easter. I’ve never seen so much snow, as this year. here in Kuummiut East Greenland”
Greenland snow 080323: http://www.wunderground.com/wximage/viewsingleimage.html?mode=singleimage&handle=carlskou&number=123&album_id=45&thumbstart=0&gallery=#slideanchor
Anyone who has ever lived in a high-snow area and who is reasonably observant knows that it is more likely to snow in the winter when the weather is warmer, not too far below freezing. Thus the occurrence of more snow than usual in areas that normally get snow is entirely consistent with a warmer winter.
Ave temp they claim in January was 23.2°F which was +3.71°F above normal (19.49°F) with 2.91' of precipitation which is +1.06' above normal (1.85')
Ave temp in February was 18.4°F which was -1.82°F below normal (22.20°F) with 2.50' of precipitation which is +1.92' above normal (1.58')
So it looks like
January is usually colder than February and usually receives more precipitation.
Colder than normal temps in February 2008 brought higher than normal precipitation.
Mathematician or Shakespeare scholar?
As a mathematician, I must constantly remind folks, that though it be not written, I am an ass - would that he were here, to write it so.
Shakespeare scholar, I see.
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