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McCain's pastor a sharp contrast to Obama's
reuters.com ^ | 03/22/08 | Ed Stoddard

Posted on 03/22/2008 4:43:40 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3

HOUSTON (Reuters) - John McCain's Phoenix pastor, Dan Yeary, is a folksy patriotic Southern Baptist who opposes abortion and believes homosexuality to be a biblical sin, but says Christians have an obligation to love such sinners.

That puts Yeary, who heads the church attended for the past 15 years by the Republican presidential candidate firmly in the U.S. Southern Baptist mainstream, and in line with the Republican Party.

He offers a sharp contrast to Democratic contender Barack Obama's former preacher Jeremiah Wright, who has stirred controversy with his fiery comments on race and America.

Obama had been seen by some analysts as having an edge over McCain on issues of faith because of his adult conversion experience and his ease in talking about his faith. But his own preacher has proven a political liability.

In a country where religion and politics often mix, 25 percent of American adults count themselves as evangelical Christians, giving them huge influence as the country heads to the November 4 presidential election to succeed President George W. Bush.

McCain draws some support from this group but many conservative Christians are uneasy with him because of his support for stem-cell research and his past criticism of leaders in the movement.

Yeary, pastor for the 7,000-member North Phoenix Baptist Church, professes little interest in politics and prefers to focus on preaching and spiritual guidance. But McCain's affiliation with Yeary will do him no harm in wooing support from the key Republican base of evangelical Christians.

"John and I are friends, he has called on me to minister to the family in times of challenge and difficulty," he told Reuters in a telephone interview.

McCain, a former prisoner-of-war in Vietnam, was raised in the Episcopal Church but has been attending Yeary's church for about 15 years. Yeary declined to comment on McCain's reluctance to finally undergo a baptism ceremony, a key ritual of the faith.

"John and I are having continual dialogue about his spiritual pursuits," Yeary said.

In an interview last year with InsideCatholic.com, an on-line Catholic forum devoted to issues of faith, McCain said he liked Yeary's "message of reconciliation and redemption which I'm a great believer in."

"And so I began attending North Phoenix Baptist church and I'm grateful for the spiritual advice and counsel that I continue to get from Pastor Dan Yeary."

McCain, like his pastor, is staunchly opposed to abortion rights but Yeary said the pair had never discussed the issue.

"Have we talked about abortion? No," Yeary said. "I believe that abortion is wrong and I believe that it is a very, very poor choice ... I believe it should be outlawed."

The 69-year-old Yeary adheres to the Southern Baptist belief that gay marriage and homosexual relations go against Biblical scripture, hot-button issues for many in the United States.

"The Bible is pretty clear about it, in my opinion it specifically calls it a sin. I also am a sinner and you are a sinner. ... Did Jesus Christ love homosexuals? I'm sure he did," Yeary said.

PRESERVE FRIENDSHIP

Obama's preacher by contrast sparked howls of protest for his angry sermons over what he called racist America, charging that the September 11 attacks were retribution for U.S. foreign policy and claiming Washington was the source of the AIDS virus.

Wright was Obama's pastor in Chicago for two decades but the Illinois senator, locked in a tight battle with New York Sen. Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination, distanced himself from Wright in a widely hailed speech addressing race issues earlier this week.

Obama would be the first black U.S. president.

"In the United States, the sacred cow is the concept of the nation -- someone who is a religious minister can say almost anything they want and not get into trouble in the political realm unless they go after the nation," said David Domke, a professor of communication at the University of Washington.

Yeary was sympathetic as a fellow pastor and said while he did not agree with Wright's comments, all preachers eventually got caught in the trap of their own exuberance.

"All preachers have a tendency to overstate because our passion is so intense. But I thought Obama did a fine job in response. He preserved his friendship with his pastor while disagreeing with him," Yeary said.

"I'm sure John McCain would probably say the same thing about me if he were asked 'So, do you agree with everything your pastor says?'" he added with a laugh.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: baptist; deception; dncfalseprophets; falseprophets; mccain; mccainandgod; nobama; obama; pastor; yeary

1 posted on 03/22/2008 4:43:41 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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To: TornadoAlley3

I thought McCain was Catholic. I guess not!


2 posted on 03/22/2008 4:46:29 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: TornadoAlley3

Nice article, thanx for posting it.


3 posted on 03/22/2008 4:49:19 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: TornadoAlley3

“Obama would be the first black U.S. president.”

What’s his white Mama from Kansas got to say ‘bout dat?

“...is a folksy patriotic Southern Baptist who opposes abortion and believes homosexuality to be a biblical sin, but says Christians have an obligation to love such sinners.”

I can live with that.


4 posted on 03/22/2008 4:50:25 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

The real story here is...

MSM went digging hoping for preacher dirt on McCain and found nothing to help Obama.


5 posted on 03/22/2008 4:53:20 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: TornadoAlley3
Yeary was sympathetic as a fellow pastor and said while he did not agree with Wright's comments, all preachers eventually got caught in the trap of their own exuberance.

Wright would probably call Yeary a white racist or a "typical white person." Oh, no, wait; that's Obama who calls us "typical white persons."

6 posted on 03/22/2008 4:54:41 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: TornadoAlley3

A normal church... imagine that!


7 posted on 03/22/2008 4:55:55 PM PDT by nj26 (Border Security=Homeland Security. Put Our Military on the Border! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: TornadoAlley3

I thought he was still Episcopalian...so this article is a good find. This sounds like a good solid evangelical church. Be nice if it was a small church like most in American instead of 7,000 member mega church...but at least the pastor sounds more doctrinally sound than say Rick Warren.


8 posted on 03/22/2008 4:56:28 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Names Ash Housewares

“MSM went digging hoping for preacher dirt on McCain and found nothing to help Obama.”

Precisely! Who would have thought that Roooooooooters would have released this?


9 posted on 03/22/2008 4:58:16 PM PDT by Eurale
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To: TornadoAlley3

So, John McCain is still toying with the idea of being baptized?
That’s a new one.
What’s he waiting for?


10 posted on 03/22/2008 4:59:15 PM PDT by XR7
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To: TornadoAlley3
Yeary was sympathetic as a fellow pastor and said while he did not agree with Wright's comments, all preachers eventually got caught in the trap of their own exuberance.

Yeah, so do butchers. But when they start overstepping their bounds....

11 posted on 03/22/2008 5:03:10 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Free New York)
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To: TornadoAlley3
I checked out their website here. Their children's program uses a R(h)INO for a theme! (CRASH) Imagine that.
12 posted on 03/22/2008 5:09:17 PM PDT by HokieMom
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To: HokieMom

LOL!


13 posted on 03/22/2008 5:11:55 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Everytime McCain reaches out to conservatives, conservatives get poked in the eye.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Maybe the preachers can have a TV debate, just like the vice-president candidates
14 posted on 03/22/2008 5:12:02 PM PDT by 11x62
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To: the invisib1e hand
all preachers eventually got caught in the trap of their own exuberance.

The only trouble with that statement is YouTube. Take a look at old Rev. Wright, he is not "caught in the trap of 'his' own exuberance" he is READING his rant! That means he has written down his crapola! He WANTS to say those things. He isn't caught in anything but his own racism.

15 posted on 03/22/2008 5:13:02 PM PDT by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: conservative cat
a folksy patriotic Southern Baptist

WAIT A MINUTE!!! JOHN MCCAIN IS AN EPISCOPALIAN.
16 posted on 03/22/2008 5:16:56 PM PDT by no dems (Barack Obama's Pastor is nuttier than a squirrel turd.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775; All

He is still on record as being an Episcopalian.

http://www.nndb.com/people/914/000023845/

When did he change.


17 posted on 03/22/2008 5:20:10 PM PDT by no dems (Barack Obama's Pastor is nuttier than a squirrel turd.)
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To: XR7

I don’t know if this church requires or urges its members to be baptized again. The ELCA believes that once you’re baptized in any church, you’re baptized into Christ and needn’t be baptized again even if you change churches or come to the ELCA from another denomination.


18 posted on 03/22/2008 5:21:03 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Names Ash Housewares
MSM went digging hoping for preacher dirt on McCain and found nothing to help Obama.

That is exactly right. You can bet they will find something somewhere. They won't quit.

19 posted on 03/22/2008 5:22:18 PM PDT by lawnguy (The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil-Cicero)
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To: TornadoAlley3

McCain’s pastor sounds like a no-nonesense, bible-believing Christian. The msm won’t like that but I do.


20 posted on 03/22/2008 5:22:29 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: XR7

If he was raised Episcopal wouldn’t he have already been baptized?


21 posted on 03/22/2008 5:25:14 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: XR7

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080207161103AAhCq17

Great discussion on the difference between christening (infant baptism in Episcopal church) and baptism (immersion as an adult) in Baptist churches.

McCain may feel he has already been *baptized* as an infant(?)

One excerpt:
******Infants are christened, but in “believer’s baptism”, professing Christians, who ideally have reached the age of reason, are dunked nowadays—normally in a church baptistry (usually concealed behind the choir loft). With Baptists, and other evangelicals, this ordinarily involves making a confession of faith before the entire congregation and being formally voted into the local church (by a show of hands). I’ve never known of a congregation that refused to accept new members. The same process takes place whether the new Christians are preteens or mature adults.******


22 posted on 03/22/2008 5:25:38 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: XR7

Episcopalians accept all baptized into their church without additional baptisms.

If McCain was Episcopalian, he’s been baptized. You don’t need to do it again.


23 posted on 03/22/2008 5:27:03 PM PDT by altura
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To: TornadoAlley3

Good find!!!


24 posted on 03/22/2008 5:29:19 PM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: altura

John McCain: keeping faith, on his own terms

How the Arizona senator, once a POW ‘pastor,’ finds purpose in his beliefs and survival.

Ultimately, like most of the presidential candidates, McCain prefers to treat his faith as a personal matter. But in a Republican primary where the religious conservative vote is up for grabs, the fact that McCain attends North Phoenix Baptist Church – a large evangelical church that is part of the conservative Southern Baptist Convention – made the papers last month. McCain is usually still identified as an Episcopalian, though even during the 2000 campaign, it was no secret that he attended a Baptist church and had a spiritual adviser there in Pastor Dan Yeary. He still does.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1018/p01s06-uspo.html?page=3


25 posted on 03/22/2008 5:35:17 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: altura

Well, except the Baptist church McCain has been attending gets to decide whether or not he is required to be baptized as an adult believer in order to become a member of the church.


26 posted on 03/22/2008 5:36:07 PM PDT by Binghamton_native
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To: altura

Some of those mass *river dunkings* look suspiciously like WATER BOARDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Episcopalians are so refined...but those Baptists.....!!!
tee hee


27 posted on 03/22/2008 5:36:17 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
But McCain's affiliation with Yeary will do him no harm in wooing support from the key Republican base of evangelical Christians.

Well, I guess it is time for MoveOn.org to start running ads painting Pastor Yeary as a fire-breathing right-wing extremist. Maybe they could get clips of him preaching Jesus and patriotism. That would make the secularist majority really, really uncomfortable and restore the moral equivalence to Pastor Wright and Obamessiah.

28 posted on 03/22/2008 5:38:37 PM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: mc5cents

yeah, of course. McCain’s pastor has misplaced his backbone, apparently.


29 posted on 03/22/2008 5:39:12 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Free New York)
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To: conservative cat

I’ll bet no one falls asleep in barama’s church .
barama = a combination of barack and obama and a lot of bull !


30 posted on 03/22/2008 5:42:19 PM PDT by lionheart 247365 (( a typical white person ) ask barack hussein obama)
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To: XR7

Maybe he was baptized as an infant and doesn’t see a reason to redo it.


31 posted on 03/22/2008 6:20:02 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: XR7

I was baptized in the Methodist church when I was 12, and then we started going to a Baptist church. I ended up getting baptized again, but I wasn’t happy about it. I thought it made my first baptism seem like it wasn’t good enough.

I totally understand why McCain hasn’t gotten baptized.

I’m not a McCain supporter, but I understand this position.


32 posted on 03/22/2008 6:21:30 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: no dems
attended for the past 15 years

he may not be an “official member”

33 posted on 03/22/2008 6:53:58 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Everytime McCain reaches out to conservatives, conservatives get poked in the eye.)
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To: conservative cat
"I thought McCain was Catholic. I guess not!"

I heard McCain converted to Huckabee's religion last summer and that McCain had converted from one religion to another more than once.

34 posted on 03/22/2008 7:03:52 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: Names Ash Housewares

>>MSM went digging hoping for preacher dirt on McCain and found nothing to help Obama.<<

True.

They looked in the wrong place. They should have noticed that McCain’s “Hispanic Outreach Director” believes that it’s OK to steal US citizens’ social security #s. Does Wright say it’s OK to commit felonies?


35 posted on 03/22/2008 7:16:32 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
McCain only attends this So. Baptist church, and is not a member.

I have a real problem with the fact that he will not follow church doctrine and be baptized as is required for church membership.

36 posted on 03/22/2008 7:20:38 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: sodpoodle

LOL! I’m a Baptist.


37 posted on 03/22/2008 7:23:14 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: TornadoAlley3

But a lot of their Soros funding is similar.


38 posted on 03/22/2008 7:25:17 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Vigilanteman

I’m very relieved to find McCain is affiliated with a respectable church. All I’d seen earlier was headlines touting his being “embraced” by controversial televangelists like John Hagee and Rod Parsley.


39 posted on 03/22/2008 7:45:07 PM PDT by GAgal
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To: Names Ash Housewares

true that...amazing when one talks to a minister who actually preaches God’s word vs social injustice themes the difference is like night and day...


40 posted on 03/22/2008 7:48:50 PM PDT by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

Just out of curiousity...What specific doctrine are you referring to when you mention Rick Warren?


41 posted on 03/22/2008 8:34:51 PM PDT by not bad at all (Let's unite and win in 08)
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To: lionheart 247365; conservative cat; The Spirit Of Allegiance
I’ll bet no one falls asleep in barama’s church .

barama = a combination of barack and obama and a lot of bull !

Barameter, noun: A scientific instrument for measuring how much B.S. is emanating from B.O. "Friday, during his race speech, B.O. hit a record 23.7 mega-plops on the Barameter!"

42 posted on 03/22/2008 9:16:45 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (If Liberalism doesn't kill me, I'll live 'till I die!)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

I really think that megachurches are megachurches because they are simply GOOD—word gets out that a church is good, it gets bigger, it moves to a bigger venue, and so on. . .it’s the American way, really. The market speaks.


43 posted on 03/23/2008 12:03:10 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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