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Tibetans Expect Little Help From World
AP/Google ^ | GAVIN RABINOWITZ

Posted on 03/22/2008 7:11:39 PM PDT by indcons

Nearly six decades of struggle against the might of China has taught the Tibetans one thing: Ask the world for little, expect less.

As Tibetans rose up in recent weeks against China's harsh rule over the Himalayan region and China sent forces to quell the protests, Tibet's government-in exile-sent its envoys to far-flung capitals with appeals for help.

But guided by the Dalai Lama, the Tibetan spiritual leader, they kept their requests modest. They know few countries have the appetite to cross China, particularly at a time the world is counting on the emerging superpower to keep the global economy ticking as the United States appears headed into a recession.

"His Holiness says we have to be realistic," said Tenzin Taklha, a senior aide to the 72-year-old Nobel Peace Prize winner who has come to embody the Tibetan struggle since he fled to India in 1959 in the wake of a failed uprising against China.

From the exiled Tibetan leaders, there were no calls for sanctions, like those imposed when Myanmar suppressed pro-democracy protests last year, or even a boycott of this summer's Beijing Olympics.

It's an approach that reflects the pragmatism of the Dalai Lama, who has long sought an accommodation based on his "Middle Way" dialogue with Beijing aimed at autonomy for Tibetans under Chinese rule.

Instead, the Tibetans appealed for international pressure on China to act with restraint, to open the area to international investigators and the media and for organizations like the International Red Cross to be allowed in to ensure wounded Tibetan protesters get treatment.

"Specific things are very difficult. No one is going to send in a peacekeeping force," said Taklha.

The Tibetans have, however, won the moral support of many nations.

On Friday, House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi lent her voice, calling China's crackdown "a challenge to the conscience of the world."

Pelosi was the first major foreign official to meet the Dalai Lama since the start of the unrest, visiting him in Dharmsala, the hilltop town in northern India where he has his headquarters.

But it is difficult for most countries to do more than call on China to show restraint, finding themselves walking a tightrope between their sympathy for the Tibetans and their very real economic and strategic needs to maintain good relations with Beijing.

China reacts harshly against countries offering overt support to the Dalai Lama, whom it accuses of masterminding the uprising in an attempt to secure Tibet's independence and undermine the Olympic games.

China this week expressed "grave concern" over a planned meeting between British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and the Dalai Lama.

And last year China temporarily barred U.S. warships from docking in Hong Kong after President Bush presented the Dalai Lama with the Congressional Gold Medal, Congress' highest civilian honor.

No country faces this dilemma more so than India. On the one hand, it hosts the Tibetan exiles. But it also now has its closest ties to China since the two Asian neighbors fought a 1962 border war. Last year, two-way trade reached $37 billion.

India has allowed the Tibetans to protest peacefully, but detained several dozen who planned to march from India to Tibet to coincide with the Olympics, saying India would not tolerate actions that embarrassed China.

In Dharmsala, hundreds of demonstrators marched Saturday to condemn China's crackdown in the region.

"We pray that the Dalai Lama's peaceful efforts to negotiate with China bear fruit," said Prem Sagar, a rally organizer.

In London, more than 300 people, including many exiled Tibetans, marched past the Chinese Embassy.

Some argue that only international pressure has stopped China from completely crushing the Tibetans long ago.

Still, for the many Tibetan exiles who lack the Zen-like patience of the Dalai Lama, the absence of concrete action from the international community, particularly the United Nations, is galling.

"We want justice from the U.N., it is the only place where we can go to seek justice for the people killed in Tibet," said Zamba Tshering, 26, a Tibetan exile protesting outside U.N. offices in Katmandu, Nepal.

While U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon called on both sides to show "restraint" earlier in the week, the U.N. has shown little interest in getting involved in the issue, perhaps an acknowledgment of China's status as one of the Security Council's five veto-wielding permanent members.

The Security Council has never debated the Tibet issue and it has not been raised in the broader General Assembly since 1965.

"The U.N. has so many procedures, so sometimes genuine issues don't come up," said Sonam Dagpo, a senior official in the exile's Department of Information and International Relations.

Others were less tactful.

"When it comes to dollars, everyone wants dollars. When it comes to human rights, it is shoved under the carpet," said Tsewang Rigzin, the leader of the Tibetan Youth Congress.

Associated Press Writers Sam Dolnick in New Delhi and Binaj Gurubacharya in Katmandu, Nepal contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008olympics; boycottchina; boycottolympics; chicom; china; genocideolympics; olympics; tibet
Ironic that this article is from Google-AP, a well known ChiCom propaganda enabler.

"In 2006 Amnesty produced a report explicating the roles of Yahoo!, Microsoft and Google in undermining freedom of expression in China." [http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15363]

1 posted on 03/22/2008 7:11:41 PM PDT by indcons
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2 posted on 03/22/2008 7:15:51 PM PDT by indcons
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To: indcons

The sit down in protest. Bomb when they have to. It’s hard to find an angle against Buddhists...


3 posted on 03/22/2008 7:17:22 PM PDT by allmost
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To: indcons
If the Tibetans would kill some innocent civilians maybe the could get some UN support and some US small arms?

They gotta think outside the box.

4 posted on 03/22/2008 7:19:21 PM PDT by ryan71 (Ah got sand in ma toe jam runnin from da po po)
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To: ryan71

If the Tibetans discovered some oil they would get more attention from the world. Cynical, I know, but true.


5 posted on 03/22/2008 7:26:17 PM PDT by HChampagne (I am not an AARP member and never will be.)
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To: HChampagne

China already thought about that, they didn’t find any oil.


6 posted on 03/22/2008 7:27:28 PM PDT by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: allmost

Buddhists, the Asian equivalent of America’s Amish (in a non religious way) … Just leave us alone, and we will not bother you, nor will we be a burden.


7 posted on 03/22/2008 7:33:26 PM PDT by doc1019 (God is in control ... not Global Warming.)
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To: doc1019

That pretty much sums it up. Reading the books implies much more.


8 posted on 03/22/2008 7:36:04 PM PDT by allmost
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To: doc1019
“Buddhists, the Asian equivalent of America’s Amish”

Interesting...

What group of people in the US would you say the muslims in Eurpean countries are most like?

9 posted on 03/22/2008 7:41:01 PM PDT by ryan71
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To: allmost

Not equivocating their teachings, just their desire to do their own thing.


10 posted on 03/22/2008 7:41:59 PM PDT by doc1019 (God is in control ... not Global Warming.)
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To: doc1019
A little bit of freedumb,chicom style.
11 posted on 03/22/2008 7:48:08 PM PDT by allmost
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To: indcons
They know few countries have the appetite to cross China, particularly at a time the world is counting on the emerging superpower to keep the global economy ticking as the United States appears headed into a recession.

We can used to that. Our fearless leaders have sold us out for "free trade" deals and China owns the bank now. The U.S. can start looking back on the day when the world listened to her.

12 posted on 03/22/2008 8:06:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: indcons
"When it comes to dollars, everyone wants dollars. When it comes to human rights, it is shoved under the carpet," said Tsewang Rigzin, the leader of the Tibetan Youth Congress.

Now that's speaking truth to power. Oh, wait, he's talking about the UN. OK, it's speaking truth to teats on a tuskless boar.

13 posted on 03/22/2008 8:19:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: indcons

I have always seen those bumper stickers that say...” Save Tibet” and I always think... gee why don’t the tibetens save themselves. As pacifists they would like others to pay the price of their freedom.


14 posted on 03/22/2008 9:29:00 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: indcons
Sorry Tibet, you got sold out for cheap big screens and 58 XXLL stretch pants, 3 pr for $5.00 down at the Wal-Mart.

I shudder when I remember God is just.

15 posted on 03/22/2008 9:29:20 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: doc1019
Buddhists, the Asian equivalent of America’s Amish

That's simply not true

Buddhism is the largest religion in China, Buddhists far outnumber Muslims and Christians. Ever heard of the kungfu monks from Shaolin?

Buddhism is also the national religion of Thailand, Burma, Japan, and to some extend Vietnam and Cambodia.

Tibetan Buddhism is just a small branch of Buddhism.

Also Tibetan were hardly "peaceful", they were tough horse riding warriors. During Younghusband's invasion to Lhasa from British India, he fought his way through using belt-fed Maxim machine gun, killing 1700 but losing hundreds of his own soldiers.

16 posted on 03/22/2008 9:57:31 PM PDT by YaoYiNBA
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To: indcons

I stand with the Tibetans.


17 posted on 03/22/2008 10:17:38 PM PDT by steel_resolve (I stand with the Tibetans.)
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To: Walkingfeather

Your comments are sad. And incredibly stupid. Do us all a favor and ban yourself from FR


18 posted on 03/22/2008 10:20:11 PM PDT by steel_resolve (I stand with the Tibetans.)
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To: indcons
FLASH!

On The Ground reports (through Japanese TV tonight).

Two of importance:

a) Troops pouring into Tibet from Communist China, are coming in from the furthermost areas with Red China, away from Tibet. i.e. reporters are noting vehicles coming in as far from as former Manchuria (Heiliungjang, etc). This confirms to the traditional Soviet and China crackdown of sending troops to rebelling areas with ethnics not connected in the remotest way to the area to be suppressed, to be more effective. It will be easy to order troops from Harbin to fire upon citizens in Lhasa in this way.

b) PLA troops are covering over their tanks that have the Chinese PLA marks ("81": 八一) for the 8th Route Army, with newspapers, to avoid coverage from foreign media or others (side and front of the tanks where these normally appear--a Japanese military specialist commented on the photos taken out of Tibet by Japanese tourists today). I saw these photos on Japanese TV just two hours ago.

(9:00 a.m. Eastern, Easter Sunday morning)

19 posted on 03/23/2008 6:01:06 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If anything, NOW is the time for a "WeAreTheWorld", or "HandsAcrossAmerica" blockbuster on TIBET)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Bump...this critical update bears watching. Thanks and BTTT


20 posted on 03/23/2008 7:19:28 AM PDT by indcons
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To: indcons

Where’s George?


21 posted on 03/23/2008 7:29:45 AM PDT by ninonitti
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To: ninonitti

Busy removing China from the State Dept. list of human rights violators!!


22 posted on 03/23/2008 7:34:33 AM PDT by indcons
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To: ninonitti
Dreaming of "his boots up on the desk" at Crawford in retirement, no doubt I'm sure.

He has left many a mess and unfinished business around the world, particularly here in Asia. It is downright disgusting.

23 posted on 03/23/2008 7:36:11 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If anything, NOW is the time for a "WeAreTheWorld", or "HandsAcrossAmerica" blockbuster on TIBET)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I agree with a lot but not this.
Just what do you expect him to do with a hostile Dem Congress and hostile press? What do you expect him to do with a teetering economy and a weak dollar? What do you expect him to do when the general public is so lied to they can't see the necessity of Iraq and Afghanistan?
What do you expect him to do other than screw up the next election for McCain and get a Socialist in the White House and lose Iraq and Afghanistan?
Tibet is a victim of bad timing. Harsh as it sounds Tibet has no strategic importance to the U.S. The Middle East does. Deal first with what you can.
Your comment on Bush was unfair and inaccurate.
If you were in his office you could do no better.
24 posted on 03/23/2008 7:51:29 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: IrishCatholic
That is your version of reality, and you are certainly entitled to it.

Thank you for your input.

25 posted on 03/24/2008 3:02:59 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If anything, NOW is the time for a "WeAreTheWorld", or "HandsAcrossAmerica" blockbuster on TIBET)
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To: steel_resolve

I met the Lama at an event in Singapore last year, he shared the same view of me as you do. However he said “When you die walkingfeather you will receive Total Consciouness”.... So I got that going for me...


26 posted on 03/24/2008 7:46:01 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Facts are stubborn things. They are not ‘versions of reality’.


27 posted on 03/24/2008 9:51:47 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: IrishCatholic
What did he do with a Republican Congress and a press that kissed his ass every time he farted? What did he do when the stock market was soaring and people were buying new homes like crazy? What did you expect him to do when his lies about getting into the war were exposed? What could you expect him to do when he played guitar while New Orleans drowned?
The man is an incompetent buffoon, and sad though it may be, Tibet will get no help from such a xenophobic ignoramus.

Best,
Etixos

28 posted on 03/24/2008 11:40:25 AM PDT by Etixos
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To: Etixos
Lay off the bong hits.
1. The Congress didn't kiss his ass. Remember the gang of 14 led by McCain? The Dems obstructed health care reform and social security reform. He tried to get things done and didn't have the power. So, your first point is shot down.

2. What was he supposed to do when the stock market was up and people were buying homes? He's a president, not your daddy. Neither one was any of his business. Point two shot down.

3.Lies about the war. What lies? You mean the violations of the cease fire? The shooting at our planes in the no fly zone? The constant harassment and obstruction of the inspectors looking for WMD’s? Hussein's constant efforts to thwart intelligence and present the appearence of WMD programs to fool not only the Iranians but his own people? As said in his own words and reported on that conservative network CBS? The same intel the Clintons used and the same intel believed by all the other intel agencies around the world? Point three obliterated.

4. Playing guitar when New Orleans drowned? That's some heavy drugs you are on. Nagin and Blanco screwed the pooch on that. They OWN it completely. It wasn't just New Orleans that was hit, it was the whole gulf coast. FEMA are the folks with the checkbooks, not the graders and dump trucks. In fact, Bush showed great restraint in not Federalizing the area and taking it away from the incompetent Dems. The Coast Guard and the military none the less did a fantastic job of helping. As for the flood control channel disaster belonging to the Corps, well, they were local feds and under Dem control also. Ask where the money went. Check the shipping canals and then see it was a continuation of the local and state Dem corruption. Point four shows your reasoning is pitiable.

“The man is an incompetent buffoon, and sad though it may be, Tibet will get no help from such a xenophobic ignoramus.”

Well, at least you base your opinions on reason. (sarcasm)

Would this be the same guy who doesn't want to close the borders with Mexico? Xenophobic? The same guy that made helping Africa more than a bumper sticker slogan like Clinton? Xenophobic? Incompetent buffoon that spanked the Democrats straight for the last seven years holding the line in Iraq and making them squeal?

You got lost on the way to post at the Daily Kos or Huffington Post. Facts are stubborn things. Tibet was under the iron heel of China long before President Bush took office and that is just the way it is. I hope Tibet becomes free. I hope Taiwan becomes independent. I hope China implodes like the Soviet Union and the post Communist China finds its way to freedom. BUT, we deal with what we have now, the chance to fix the Middle East and shut down Iran.

Best,
IrishCatholic

29 posted on 03/24/2008 2:16:59 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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