Posted on 03/23/2008 7:20:23 AM PDT by RouxStir
CHENGDU, China — China lashed out Sunday at critics of its crackdown on Tibetan protesters, describing U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi as "habitually bad tempered" while claiming the Western media serve those who want to smear the communist country.
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Hippocrits!!!
During the opening ceremony, the Chinese military will run over unarmed athletes with tanks, turning them into mush to commemorate the Tiananmen Square massacre.
During the relay races, we won't be able to see the athletes on the far side of the track thru the polluted Beijing air.
The Olympic Games are supposed to be the time the world comes together. Instead, some will use it as a time to celebrate turmoil and create death.
Shame on anyone that can not see what is taking place.
And it is not a question of whether the U.S. should boycott the Olympics. Given Nancy Peolosi's political stunt, the U.S. should not be invited to attend.
I’d say that this is picking up momentum as the ChiCom armor rolls into Tibet. It’ll be interesting to see what happens in Athens when the torch shows up. Big protests could turn the whole Beijing Olympics sour quickly. Then there’s Falun Gong which may jump into this as weel
I'm sure you're talking about the Chinese invaders shooting Tibetans n'est pas?
Thank you so much, for that amazing imitation, of the Chinese Communist Party line talking points! You’re good.
Do you do Rich Little, as well?...
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In my entire life,I thought I would never side with Pelosi. We need more Republicans to support Tibet against the red menace.
“perfectly timed to get the maximum exposure and to politicize the Olympics as much as possible”
Agreed. But China’s horrendous treatment of it’s citizens is a far greater issue than politicization of the Olympics. I believe that China saw the disintegration of the Soviet Union as a foreshadowing of things to come inside China. The Chinese have been surging at breakneck speed into manufacturing and quasi-capitalism in an effort to hold their “empire” together by providing their citizens with better fare than the USSR did with theirs...hoping enough of the citizenry will stay quelled. And in the process, the Chinese are willing to crush anyone attempting to stand up for basic human rights. “China,” as politically described today, is made up of many ethnically distinct regions (that really should be completely independent of China) held together only by rule with an iron fist. They have, however, been bound together by force longer than the USSR was, making independence much more difficult to achieve.
“The events in Tibet have been perfectly timed to get the maximum exposure and to politicize the Olympics as much as possible. Sad.”
Yes...that’s right. Considering that the Tibetians have been ignored by civilized peoples for far too long. There’s nothing sad about their desire to bring attention to their plight after 60 years of oppression, genocide, forced abortions, and Han resettlement.
“Instead, some will use it as a time to celebrate turmoil and create death.”
I agree with your sentiments but they should be targeted at the ChiComs and their genocidal followers. The Tibetians, like the Iraqis, Afghans, and Venezuelans deserve freedom. Anything less w.r.t. Tibet is a cowardly and immoral compromise with the ChiComs.
“Shame on anyone that can not see what is taking place.”
Shame on you for being a useful tool of the ChiComs on a forum that proudly asserts the very qualities that made this country (USA not China, btw) the greatest civilization in human history. I support freedom, liberty, and property rights in Tibet and in rest of that immoral ChiCom hellhole.
“Given Nancy Peolosi’s political stunt, the U.S. should not be invited to attend.”
LOL.....do you really think the ChiComs have the b##ls to disinvite Bhutan - let alone the USA?
CNN - There are a few ChiCom trolls on FR. They have been signing up at a quick pace (some are older signups) to tell the rest of world about how the “ChiComs are the victims of Tibetian terrorists.” Barf.
In revenge, ChiCom trolls must be sending messages back to their PLA masters requesting additional lead in childrens’ toys and mercury in shrimp...LOL
There is three and a half years between Olympics to elevate this issue. Instead, they choose to disrupt the Olympic Games - a world event hosted in different countries each time.
The footage I saw was of protester attacking ambulances with patients on the way to the hospital, of protestors burning down entire blocks. What is China supposed to do, sit back and watch.
Or perhaps their political leaders should have joined in and said, "No justice, no peace" while the police were trying to quell the riots.
Then you are supporting Isalmic extremist taking hold of the region. Are we going always repeat our mistakes. Look what happened in Afghanistan. Can't the U.S. just mind its own business.
“There is three and a half years between Olympics to elevate this issue. Instead, they choose to disrupt the Olympic Games - a world event hosted in different countries each time.”
...and there are many more years of brutal repression by the Chinese. You must not want the Chinese to have the truth revealed about their “society.”
By the way, are you a member of the Communist Party?...or just a wannabe?
Who chose NOW to disrput the Olympics?
China initiated these events.
negativity directed towards them is their fault, no one elses.
I get it— ignore the violence- at least ‘til the game is over.....I’ve known some sports fans, but geeshk....
Would you ignore a man raping a woman in your living room during the Superbowl? You think you might bother doing something about during halftime?
The footage you saw has already been identified as ChiCom propaganda and MSN/Yahoo are in hot water over their bias. I’m sure you knew that but decided to use the garbage fed by the ChiComs anyway.
Since you seem to be such good follower of ChiCom propaganda and post from China ever so often, can you also ask the ChiComs to stop their forced abortions and Han resettlement in Tibet?
As a FReeper and a conservative, I’m sure you wouldn’t mind supporting freedom and liberty for Tibetians.
The Tibetians are not Islamic extremists - they are Buddhist. Geez...I thought you were a FReeper and a conservative - even if a misguided one.
OTH, you share all the characteristics of the ChiCom trolls tht post here. However, even the trolls here don’t lie about the Tibetians’ religion to mislead people while you do so shamelessly.
Let’s bomb ‘em for 78 days...what’s good for Serbia should be good for China....
lol! I see what u did thar!
What China is supposed to do is get in their trucks and tanks and drive home and take their ethnic cleansing policies and Han people with them.
China invaded this country in 1958. They have committed atrocities against the Tibetans since then. They attacked peaceful protests by Buddist monks which in turn set off the current rioting by the population.
Am I getting through to you my friend?
If you guys think China is going to leave the region, you are crazy. As soon as China leaves, Islamic fundamentalist take advantage of the weakend situation and move in.
And to the poster with the lack of reading comprehension, no statement was made that the indiginouse people of Tibet are Islamic fundamentalist. The point, as stated above, if there is a void in power created, Islamic fundamentalists from the west will move in.
Someone get out a map and tell me what countries are to the west of China.
Go back and read the post. No one said they were Islamic extremists. Look at the situation from a Chinese national security stand point along with a map of the countries to the west and you will get the point. Stop sounding off emotionally without looking at issue.
So what you are advocating is that they Olympics be used for political purposes. Is that your position? It is a very simple question. Awaiting your response.
“The footage I saw was of protester attacking ambulances with patients on the way to the hospital, of protestors burning down entire blocks. What is China supposed to do, sit back and watch.”
Well their taking people out and shooting them for being Tibetan doesn’t seem to be calming the situation. Perhaps sterilizing some more Tibetan women might help as an alternative. Perhaps not though.
Hmmmm...Looks like Pelosi is hurting our “standing in the world”.
Last I looked the Dali and his monks were not a muslim... what the h___ are you talking about?
The footage I saw was in Chinese language with Chinese people being interviewed. I saw protesters burning entire blocks. I can read the signs on the buildings that are being burned and destroyed. CCTV is not an objective source but they can not fake that.
There was rioting in the provinces with innocent people getting killed at that the hands of the protesters. That was reported by world media not just CCTV.
You say the footage is propaganda. Of course it is. But the footage I saw was not fake? Can you make that distinction and address the question forthrightly? Do you support the lives being taken by those rioters?
“Someone get out a map and tell me what countries are to the west of China.”
England, Germany, Italy, Sweden, geeze there are a bunch. How far west should we go? Should we also look east to the Mongols? They have an interesting history of being oppressed as well.
“Then you are supporting Isalmic extremist taking hold of the region. Are we going always repeat our mistakes. Look what happened in Afghanistan. Can’t the U.S. just mind its own business.”
Tibetans are Islamic terrorists now? Hmmm thats a new one. And what did happen in Afghanistan, peace breaking out all over the place?
We would like to mind our business but people keep asking us for help.
“? Do you support the lives being taken by those rioters?”
What are Chinese businesses and Chinese people doing in Tibet?
What are Chinese businesses and Chinese people doing in Tibet?
Your answer, then, is yes!
Just a ChiCom enabler doing the job that’s its masters want it to do.
Answer driftdiver’s question first, ChiCom genocide fan. This is the first time I’ve seen a FReeper epousing chicom “national interests” on this forum. How much are they paying you to post this garbage?
Let me be clear for you. Tibetans are not terrorist. Islamic terorist occupy regions to the west. If China moves out of Tibet, Islamic terrorist move in. That becomes a threat to national security for China.
That is as simple as I can objectively present the issue for you. Do you consider that a valid consideration of the Chinese government? If you lived in China, would you want your govenmet to secure a region or let it be taken over by Islamic fundamentalism? I understand you first my accept my premise. If you do, then please answer the questions. Thanks.
I will self boycott the 2008 Beijing Olympics!!!
ChiComs on FR? Looks like the Robinson family needs to get out the ZOT gun out!!!!
“If China moves out of Tibet, Islamic terrorist move in. That becomes a threat to national security for China.”
Nice story, has little to do with reality though.
“That is as simple as I can objectively present the issue for you. Do you consider that a valid consideration of the Chinese government? If you lived in China, would you want your govenmet to secure a region or let it be taken over by Islamic fundamentalism?”
Is that the official party line in China now? What happened in the 1950s when China took over? Couldn’t China mind its own business back then like you are accusing the US of now? Why has China killed so many people in Tibet? Why does China forcibly sterilize Tibetan women?
Islamic terrorists have nothing to do with Tibet. Chinese terrorists are the major concern. Oh wait, state sponsored terrorism isnt really terrorism. Thats an act of war and not terrorism.
On Afganistan, it is not the current situation there that I am talking about. Perhaps I was not clear. I am talking about when the Russians were fighting the Taliban and the U.S. chose to support the Taliban against the Russians. Do you see that support of the Taliban by the U.S. as a mistake? Would it have been better to leave the Soviet Union to deal with the problem?
Peace most certainly did not break out all over the place as a result of our intervention in Afghanistan the back then. I hope that clarifies my point for you on Afghanistan.
By the way, I am not the only conservative that thinks our nation should not become involved in foreign entanglements. Can you think of a conservative that agrees with my point of view on this score. If not, you need to go back and re-read (read) U.S. constituional history.
Where have al the conservatives gone? There sure are few in this thread.
That is my question to you and you chose not to answer it. Still waiting for your answer.
Islamic terrorists have nothing to do with Tibet.
Get out a map, study it and then come back to the discussion.
P.S. You might also study FR's HTML Toolbox to get in sync with FR style and formating of posts. Specifically, quotes are not used when citing a post you are replying to. You use italics. Common form on here.
“I am talking about when the Russians were fighting the Taliban and the U.S. chose to support the Taliban against the Russians. Do you see that support of the Taliban by the U.S. as a mistake? Would it have been better to leave the Soviet Union to deal with the problem?”
Actually we didnt support the Taliban. We supported rebels who successfully resisted the Russians for several years. The Taliban grew out of a component of the rebels. The soviets suffered a tremendous loss in Afghanistan.
Afganistan is a free country and has the beginning of a democratic government. That is a tremendous victory.
And I didn’t know that being a communist qualified a person to also claim to be a conservative. I guess conservative from the aspect that the government conserves the power for itself.
Why is China in Tibet again? Why has China killed so many people there? Why does the Chinese govt forcibly sterilize Tibetan women?
I'm merely asking you if that is a consideration for China. Is it a matter of Chinese national interest? It seems one can hardly begin to understand the issue if you don't take that question into consideration. It is a quite objective question. That does not mean I am taking the Chinese party line.
I’ve been posting here for 10 years. I don’t need to be zotted because some people can not objectively look at an issue and study it.
Emotionalism is clouding what are supposed to be conservative thinking minds.
It is a conservative viewpoint that the U.S. should avoid foreign entanglements. It is one of the most conservative of principles.
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