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Pilot's gun discharges on US Airways flight
wcnc via Drudge Report ^ | March 23, 2008 | DIANA RUGG

Posted on 03/23/2008 6:14:42 PM PDT by RDTF

CHARLOTTE, N.C.-- A US Airways pilot’s gun accidentally discharged during a flight from Denver to Charlotte Saturday, according to as statement released by the airline. The statement said the discharge happened on Flight 1536, which left Denver at approximately 6:45am and arrived in Charlotte at approximately 11:51am.

The Airbus A319 plane landed safely and none of the flight’s 124 passengers or five crew members was injured, according to the statement. It was a full flight. An airline spokeswoman said the plane has been taken out of service to make sure it is safe to return to flight. A Transportation Safety Administration spokeswoman reached by WCNC Sunday said the pilot is part of TSA’s Federal Flight Deck Officer (FFDO) program, which trains pilots to carry guns on flights.

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KEYWORDS: aerospace; airlines; armedpilots; banglist; ffdo; tsa; usairways
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1 posted on 03/23/2008 6:14:42 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: RDTF

Someone was playing cowboy in the crouch pit.


2 posted on 03/23/2008 6:17:17 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: RDTF

Um, guns don’t typically “accidentally” discharge.


3 posted on 03/23/2008 6:17:49 PM PDT by coloradan (The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: RDTF

WTH? I’m betting it was an unholstered Glock.


4 posted on 03/23/2008 6:18:37 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Ask me again tomorrow.)
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To: RDTF

So, did the plane decompress explovely?.................hmmmmmmm?


5 posted on 03/23/2008 6:18:41 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: P8riot

explovely = explosively


6 posted on 03/23/2008 6:19:09 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: coloradan

NO they don’t. And sitting behind a locked, reinforced door, means he should not have it in Condition One. No reason for a round to be chambered.


7 posted on 03/23/2008 6:19:32 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: coloradan

what did it impact? No damage anywhere? Was it a magic bullet?


8 posted on 03/23/2008 6:19:32 PM PDT by Eternal_Bear
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To: RDTF

Guns don’t go BANG unless you hit the “go” button.


9 posted on 03/23/2008 6:19:59 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Only infidel blood can quench Muslim thirst-- Abdul-Jalil Nazeer al-Karouri)
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To: P8riot

Nope. (Sounds of shock ripple through anti-gunners.)


10 posted on 03/23/2008 6:20:05 PM PDT by coloradan (The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: RDTF

Uh huh. I want more details. Like the passenger list.


11 posted on 03/23/2008 6:20:13 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: P8riot

explovely is a word in search of a definition.


12 posted on 03/23/2008 6:21:12 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Ask me again tomorrow.)
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To: RDTF
I wonder if the pilot might be a former DEA angent?
DEA AGENT SHOOTS OWN FOOT
13 posted on 03/23/2008 6:21:51 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: RDTF

Speaking of that, what’s the protocol if a pilot suddenly decides to shoot dead his copilot, for whatever reason, then hides behind those reinforced cockpit doors?


14 posted on 03/23/2008 6:22:52 PM PDT by seacapn
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To: RDTF

Oh man I gotta fly tomorrow and now I gotta worry about rogue handguns going off by themselves endangering planes full of innocent people.


15 posted on 03/23/2008 6:23:00 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: RDTF

Pressurized cabins are no place to play with guns.

16 posted on 03/23/2008 6:23:11 PM PDT by Cvengr (Fear sees the problem emotion never solves. Faith sees & accepts the solution, problem solved.)
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To: driftdiver

Think about all the thousands of things that could go wrong on that plane and you’ll sleep a lot better.


17 posted on 03/23/2008 6:24:24 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Ask me again tomorrow.)
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To: mountn man

or this:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23759338

D.C. Officer Shoots Self In Foot
updated 5:01 p.m. ET, Sat., March. 22, 2008


18 posted on 03/23/2008 6:24:49 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: RDTF
I'll bet the clean up crew had a big job cleaning all those seats.

AD in the cockpit?...hmmm.

19 posted on 03/23/2008 6:25:05 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: RDTF

Dollars to donuts the pilot was playing with it. Weapons don’t “accidently” discharge without someone pulling a trigger. In all my years of being around weapons I have never had one discharge without some input from me.


20 posted on 03/23/2008 6:25:06 PM PDT by infantrywhooah
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To: yldstrk

Are they going to look for the bullet...did the bullet exit the aircraft??? and hit the EARTH??? or, or, or !!!


21 posted on 03/23/2008 6:25:09 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: Kirkwood

You don’t like big boy guns?

Glocks aren’t likely to discharge if you keep your booger hook in your nose.


22 posted on 03/23/2008 6:25:15 PM PDT by Eaker (2 Thessalonians 3:10 ... He that will not work, neither should he eat.)
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To: Kirkwood
explovely is a word in search of a definition.

Well, if you look it up in the dictionary, you might just find the picture in post #16.

23 posted on 03/23/2008 6:26:04 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Free New York)
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To: Kirkwood

“Think about all the thousands of things that could go wrong on that plane and you’ll sleep a lot better.”

Hey at least I know the plane is maintained by the best union workers available.


24 posted on 03/23/2008 6:27:09 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Cvengr

a pic of Sean Connery always makes my day


25 posted on 03/23/2008 6:27:22 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: El Gato
AD is a myth. There is no such thing as an accidental discharge. It's an ND, for negligent discharge. The Army stopped calling them AD's a long time ago. They are ND's because they occur due to someone's negligence.
26 posted on 03/23/2008 6:27:40 PM PDT by infantrywhooah
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To: infantrywhooah

Unless it ws a Glock shoved into a flight bag without being in a holster. The “safety” is on the trigger and it can go off without being handled. Something presses on the trigger and *BANG*.


27 posted on 03/23/2008 6:28:02 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Ask me again tomorrow.)
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To: RDTF

“the pilot is part of TSA’s Federal Flight Deck Officer (FFDO) program, which trains pilots to carry guns on flights.”

MORE Training


28 posted on 03/23/2008 6:28:28 PM PDT by nuconvert (There are bad people in the pistachio business.)
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To: Buddy B

“Are they going to look for the bullet...did the bullet exit the aircraft??? and hit the EARTH??? or, or, or !!!”

It most likely flew at least 5 miles before hitting another airplane. Thankfully that airplane was able to land safely as well.

/sarc


29 posted on 03/23/2008 6:28:40 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: RDTF

Bond’s appealing to Pussy’s maternal instincts. LOL!


30 posted on 03/23/2008 6:29:09 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Ask me again tomorrow.)
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To: Kirkwood

Like a revolver?


31 posted on 03/23/2008 6:29:26 PM PDT by Eaker (2 Thessalonians 3:10 ... He that will not work, neither should he eat.)
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To: RDTF

oopppps! never mind


32 posted on 03/23/2008 6:29:58 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: RDTF

Let’s see..... “Hey Harry, did you see my new Glock 40 cal.”? “You know they don’t have an external safety. It’s sort of built into the trigger.” “Oh no, I didn’t place that much pressure on it.”

I hope they also take his pilot’s license.


33 posted on 03/23/2008 6:30:21 PM PDT by Capt_Hank (btu's...kcal's...to kJ's, but my activation energy is still high.)
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To: Kirkwood

“Now, Pussy, you know a lot more about planes than guns. That’s a Smith and Wesson 45, and if you fire at me at this close range, the bullet will pass through me and the fuselage like a blowtorch through butter. The cabin will depressurize, and we’ll both be sucked into outer space together. If that’s how you want to enter the United States, you’re welcome. As for me, I prefer the easy way.”...007 to Pussy Galore in GOLDFINGER


34 posted on 03/23/2008 6:30:46 PM PDT by Cvengr (Fear sees the problem emotion never solves. Faith sees & accepts the solution, problem solved.)
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To: coloradan

Glocks do ...


35 posted on 03/23/2008 6:32:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Eaker

Glocks are designed for cops and gangbangers. A real gun is more along the lines of a 1911. A Beretta is slso a far better weapon than a Glock.


36 posted on 03/23/2008 6:33:51 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Ask me again tomorrow.)
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To: MHGinTN

Please cite a single real event where a Glock discharged a round without the trigger being depressed.

Just one.


37 posted on 03/23/2008 6:35:05 PM PDT by Eaker (2 Thessalonians 3:10 ... He that will not work, neither should he eat.)
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To: RDTF

what kind of gun was used?

revolver or semi pistol?

why was a round in the chamber, if a semiautomatic pistol??


38 posted on 03/23/2008 6:35:25 PM PDT by patch789
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To: Eaker

Revolvers don’t have trigger safeties. Glocks have that totally stupid and useless trigger safety.


39 posted on 03/23/2008 6:36:01 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Ask me again tomorrow.)
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To: AFreeBird

I have a round in the chamber AT ALL TIMES, but I only carry those with external thumb-operated safeties. I wouldn’t own a Glock personally.


40 posted on 03/23/2008 6:37:11 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: infantrywhooah

ditto.


41 posted on 03/23/2008 6:37:56 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: Kirkwood

Your opinion means little to a person like me who has carried a Glock since the 90’s without a single incident where it jumped off my desk and started discharging rounds.

I agree that the stupid and untrained should rely on several safety’s.


42 posted on 03/23/2008 6:39:01 PM PDT by Eaker (2 Thessalonians 3:10 ... He that will not work, neither should he eat.)
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To: Kirkwood

LOve my Taurus .45 Millenium Edition P145


43 posted on 03/23/2008 6:40:09 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? ((Ok, Im the official Pit Bull Defender/If you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them.)
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To: Kirkwood

Revolvers don’t have safeties at all.

Why didn’t you jump to the conclusion that it was a revolver rather than a Glock?


44 posted on 03/23/2008 6:40:26 PM PDT by Eaker (2 Thessalonians 3:10 ... He that will not work, neither should he eat.)
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To: Eaker

That’s just it. The Glock trigger can be depressed and the gun fired without having a finger on the trigger. They have discharged when being forced into a tight (new) holster and they can also discharge in purses or handbags where a lipstick case or a pen can work its way into the trigger guard and press on the trigger. I’ve seen several reports of such NDs with Glocks. I refuse to have one. Better to have no safety at all than a stupid safety.


45 posted on 03/23/2008 6:40:52 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Ask me again tomorrow.)
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To: infantrywhooah

Thank you. My old career Army dad taught me gun safety at a young age.

I don’t know why anyone would carry a pistol with a round chambered in an aircraft unless he was expecting big trouble. It’s not like it’s takes a long time to rack a slide. (I assume he wasn’t carrying a revolver.)

Even if you were going to parachute into combat, I don’t think you would exit the aircraft with a round chambered in your weapon.


46 posted on 03/23/2008 6:43:03 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam. TWP VRWC)
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To: Eaker; sit-rep; Squantos

A fly-by shooting?


47 posted on 03/23/2008 6:43:18 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Still looking for UART at FX1050)
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To: RDTF

A gun does not “accidentally discharge”.
Some moron pulled the trigger.


48 posted on 03/23/2008 6:43:38 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Kirkwood

So, how does that differ from a standard revolver?


49 posted on 03/23/2008 6:44:06 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Let's win Congress - the Presidency is lost!)
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To: RDTF

I believe pilots are all supposed to carry H&K USP’s. If so, there’s no ‘accident’ possible.


50 posted on 03/23/2008 6:44:43 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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