Skip to comments.The Root Cause of Why Some Liberals Are Unresponsive to Logic and Debate
Posted on 03/24/2008 4:17:31 AM PDT by Yomin Postelnik
THE REAL REASON WHY RADICAL LIBERALS DO NOT RESPOND TO DEBATE
The reason why so many (though again, not all) liberals act this way is remarkably simple. In fact, for all those whove become so baffled by their seemingly inexplicable conduct, you may wonder how it has escaped you all these years (probably because its so easy to get so frustrated by their conduct that noticing the reason behind it becomes a matter not worth considering). The answer is bigotry. Theyre prejudiced. Am I being ridiculous? Is liberalism the new bigotry? No, and yes!
THE BIASED MINDSET
THE THREE REASONS FOR RADICAL LIBERAL BIGOTRY
INALIENABLE BELIEF IN WHATEVER A LIBERAL SCIENTIST SAYS DESPITE THE FACTS AND IN SPITE OF ALL RHYME AND REASON
HOW TO EFFECTIVELY ANSWER RADICAL LIBERALS
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Liberalism is a Progressive mental disease.
Liberals do the same thing.
Relativism is the liberal religion. They wouldn’t recognize truth if it bit them in the behind.
Excellent article, addresses questions I find quite interesting. Ill read the whole thing later.
If I may offer some thoughts, regarding liberal motivation. I think they are motivated by that which has been the downfall of man since the very beginningpride. Self-worship, narcissism. Every leftist issue has a narcissistic payoff.
The most stubborn of all sins.
For liberals there is no God or God is within themselves which is operationally the same thing. And there is no Truth therefore there is no truth. Without truth logic is meaningless. With that mindset liberals cannot debate or argue in the proper meanings of those words. They “argue” by repeating slogans and referring to the social origins of the opponent. With no Truth, social relationships and emotion are the only operative methods of debate because facts are no more than mental constructs and represent simply a narrow and biased or bigoted view of a subject.
See my tagline.
Liberals and Psychology: Cognitive Dissonance Explains Liberal Anger
Cognitive dissonance is a psychological term describing the uncomfortable tension that may result from having two conflicting thoughts at the same time, or from engaging in behavior that conflicts with ones beliefs, or from experiencing apparently conflicting phenomena.
In simple terms, it can be the filtering of information that conflicts with what you already believe, in an effort to ignore that information and reinforce your beliefs. In detailed terms, it is the perception of incompatibility between two cognitions, where cognition is defined as any element of knowledge, including attitude, emotion, belief, or behavior. The theory of cognitive dissonance states that contradicting cognitions serve as a driving force that compels the mind to acquire or invent new thoughts or beliefs, or to modify existing beliefs, so as to reduce the amount of dissonance (conflict) between cognitions. Experiments have attempted to quantify this hypothetical drive. Some of these have examined how beliefs often change to match behavior when beliefs and behavior are in conflict.
ping for later
If they had any brains they wouldn't be liberals!
It is a fact that the war with Iraq was started when sadman invaded Kuwait in 1991.
The US and pals defeated Iraq and a truce was agreed to based on certain conditions that the sadman accepted.
He failed to comply and GWB responded with act two of the Iraq war.
A liberal will not agree to these facts, so any discussion of the war in Iraq will end in nothing but an irrational screaming match.
I have also recognized over the years the two points where you have won the argument over the liberal. One - they start to call you names or two - the change the topic of discussion.
The liberal mindset is not totally impenetrable. When confronted with irrefutable logic and inescapable reason, they will usually crack, and thus a NEO-Con is born............
Excellent article. Thanks for posting it.
There is little if any difference between the illogic of the liberal politically and the liberal Religiously.
Liberals do the same thing.
I remember the interview that Bill O'Reilly did with Michael Moore. Something that stunned O'Reilly into silence, something that I've only rarely seen, was when Moore stated flat out that there was no difference between being wrong and lying. O'Reilly really tried to push Moore on this, but he insisted that there was no difference, even giving an absurd example.
Which made me realize that since leftists believe that there's nothing wrong with being wrong at their core, and there's no difference between being wrong and lying, then there's nothing wrong with lying.
That illustrates what I said.
Excellent analysis but it is also conceit: They honestly believe that we conservatives are “stupid”, or worse “ignorant”. I have been running into them all of my life and they will ignore logical arguments, like you over tax me, the economy will be drained of capital, for the emotional argument of “I am my brother’s keeper”.
I have two polar opposite beliefs about many things.
But they’re not all related to politics.
What Yomin Postelnik is saying boils down to this: bigotry is human nature. Liberals have found a way to engage in bigotry, and disguise their bigotry with a smokescreen of accusations of bigotry in others. And the people the accuse of bigotry are the ones who try to demonstrate that they are bigots!
It makes may think of AIDS, which is a disease that attacks the cells that help the body fight against disease.
They're dumb, which is why they're liberals in the first place?
Thanks - What you mention is part of it too. Though their narcissim may also stem from their “feel good now despite all consequences” lifestyle.
They sure do live in an interesting fantasy land. It’s a shame what they do to their brains.
One (liberally religious) seems to lead to the other (liberal in general).
Thanks! - They are funny. That argument of theirs is the snowman calling the oven cold, to “liberalize” an old expression.
Relativism is the way “liberals” justify not conforming to a standard of behavior and doing anything they damn well please,
and when the consequences of this behavior “come home to roost”,
there’s always a government program that forcefully confiscates wealth from people making good decisions to pay for the alleviation of those consequences.
I’m teaching my children to reject the words, all of the words, from anyone espousing the absence of an objective truth.
People with no sense of truth external to their own definition are way more likely to deceive you.
Thanks - I think that many times bigotry comes from some minor form of hedonism/narcissim. If people have it, they need to overcome it. Some of it comes from avoidance of logic, a specialty of liberals.
The new “mosaic generation” is being raised to be able to withstand the discomfort of cognitive dissonance.
They are taught to be “comfortable with contradiction”.
(google the quoted words for an article)
When faced with a logical contradiction that invalidates the leftist worldview, you’ll get, at most “how about that...”
“When confronted with irrefutable logic and inescapable reason, they will usually crack, and thus a NEO-Con is born............”
You think so?
My experience has been that they either get really testy, refuse to discuss the topic anymore, or quickly switch to something else.
“Liberals hate facts. Therefore, when you post facts, to them, you’re posting hate.”
Example: Telling the truth about any PC topic.
Liberalism is a mental disease as proven by the fact that they think it is OK for them to lie because their position is the true one
They are too damned brain warped to realize if their position was correct they wouldn’t have to lie
“What Yomin Postelnik is saying boils down to this: bigotry is human nature. Liberals have found a way to engage in bigotry, and disguise their bigotry with a smokescreen of accusations of bigotry in others. And the people the accuse of bigotry are the ones who try to demonstrate that they are bigots!”
Known as the psychological phenomenon of Projection. They accuse you of what they are guilty of, but somehow are blind to the hypocrisy.
“My experience has been that they either get really testy, refuse to discuss the topic anymore, or quickly switch to something else.”
My experience is that they get outright hostile, and won’t hesitate to sacrifice personal relationships in order to justify their righteousness. Name calling, out shouting, interrupting, and all forms of personal attacks are common.
Is that for real?
If it is real, she qualifies to be on “Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader’s Toe Jam (Fox)”