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The Real McCarthy Revealed
IBD ^ | March 24, 2008

Posted on 03/24/2008 6:43:41 PM PDT by Kaslin

National Security: The latest sin ex-President Clinton is accused of is "McCarthyism." But a new, meticulously researched book corrects misconceptions about the abuse of that term by the media and the left.


Over the weekend, a retired Air Force general and Barack Obama supporter charged the former president with McCarthyism for seeming to question the patriotism of the Illinois senator, now leading the Democratic race for president.

The Obama and Hillary campaigns both soon scrambled to apologize — such sting does that venomous word carry. The dictionary defines McCarthyism as "personal attacks on individuals by means of widely publicized indiscriminate allegations, especially on the basis of unsubstantiated charges."

More than a half-century after the death of Sen. Joseph McCarthy, even many anti-communist intellectuals join in the almost universal revilement of the Wisconsin Republican's memory.

"Surely the man who did the greatest damage to the cause of anti-communism was the American Senator Joe McCarthy," Washington Post columnist Anne Applebaum casually declares in her 2003 history of the Soviet Gulags.

British historian Andrew Roberts in his "History of the English-Speaking Peoples Since 1900" writes that McCarthy "did not in fact discover a single communist."

But in 600 pages of text, backed up by 22 pages of scrupulous reference notes, veteran reporter and editor M. Stanton Evans, founder of Washington's National Journalism Center, proves that Applebaum, Roberts and countless others have swallowed whole a lie — because they never bothered to go back and check the facts.

(Excerpt) Read more at ibdeditorials.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: mccarthy; mccarthyism

1 posted on 03/24/2008 6:43:41 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
The dictionary defines McCarthyism as "personal attacks on individuals by means of widely publicized indiscriminate allegations, especially on the basis of unsubstantiated charges."

Another myth is that the Libs hated McCarthy. While they did have an intense disliking for him, they also had a genuine respect for him for helping them develop their current methods and strategies that they have employed against the Republicans and Conservatives ever since. And now, they have become so practiced in their version of "McCarthyism" that they have now taken to using it against members of their own party. So, they didn't like McCarthy but he, or at least their concept of him and what he did, was a mentor figure to the modern Democratic Party.

2 posted on 03/24/2008 6:49:29 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Kaslin
McPeak
"I grew up, I was going to college when Joe McCarthy was accusing good Americans of being traitors, so I've had enough of it."
Speaks volumes about McPeak as well.
3 posted on 03/24/2008 6:53:10 PM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: Kaslin
Tail gunner Joe, as he often was referred as, had uncovered an enormous amount of factually correct information exposing communism within the state department(still there today) as well as the FDR administration. McCarthy's mistake was going after General George C. Marshall and the Army signal corps at Monmouth, New Jersey.

Is in not interesting how as history was rewritten to deny the facts of McCarthy, now has to written to accurately portray what in fact happened and is undeniable today....

4 posted on 03/24/2008 6:55:02 PM PDT by The Forgotten Man (He works, he votes, generally he prays--but he always pays....)
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To: Kaslin
[ British historian Andrew Roberts in his "History of the English-Speaking Peoples Since 1900" writes that McCarthy "did not in fact discover a single communist." ]

Not true.. McCarthy discovered few that were NOT communists.. Proved by the Winona papers and research into KGB files in Moscow.. Easily researched.. Actually several books were written about what was found..

Like Stalin funded most of the communist partys activity's in the United States directly and guided by several known american operatives of espionage under foreign control.. Most of whom worked within the Roosevelt and Truman administrations.. Domestic communist and socialist operatives still are embedded in the State Department and other career positions..

The republican party has cared less for decades.. To the extent socialism is a word almost never heard in Washington D.C. even though espionage is the main effect.. All three current Presidential hopefuls are virulent socialist operatives..

5 posted on 03/24/2008 6:58:40 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Kaslin; smoothsailing
Excellent editorial, thanks for posting. McCarthy was a true patriot.

Hat tip to smoothsailing for the link to this Renew America extended article on McCarthy.

McCarthy

6 posted on 03/24/2008 6:58:58 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: hosepipe

corr: VENONA Papers..


7 posted on 03/24/2008 7:00:38 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: BufordP
Speaks volumes about McPeak as well.

Absolutely! In another piece McPeak is quoted as saying Obama would make one the the finest CIC's in history. Tony's no more than a libtard.

8 posted on 03/24/2008 7:02:59 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: hosepipe

vinona papers


9 posted on 03/24/2008 7:07:14 PM PDT by tired1 (responsibility without authority is slavery!)
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To: Kaslin

http://youtube.com/watch?v=S5puAN1PGQw

Send Lawyers Guns & Money


10 posted on 03/24/2008 7:08:31 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: hosepipe

sorry, my spelling is also incorrect. please see:
Venona project -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venona_project


11 posted on 03/24/2008 7:13:10 PM PDT by tired1 (responsibility without authority is slavery!)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t agree that McCarthyism was anything more than a witch hunt. If we really want to reject communism, we should stop voting for major party socialists.


12 posted on 03/24/2008 7:13:51 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: jazusamo; hosepipe; Kaslin
From Ann Coulter's Treason...

"Among the most notorious Soviet spies in high-level positions in the Roosevelt and Truman administrations -- now proved absolutely, beyond question by the Soviet cables(Venona Project) -- were Alger Hiss at the State Department; Harry Dexter White, assistant secretary of the Treasury Department, later appointed to the International Monetary Fund by President Truman; Lauchlin Currie, personal assistant to President Roosevelt and White House liaison to the State Department under both Roosevelt and Truman; Laurence Duggan, head of the Latin American Desk at the State Department; Frank Coe, US representative on the International Monetary Fund; Solomon Adler, senior Treasury Department official; Klaus Fuchs, top atomic scientist; and Duncan Lee, senior aide to the head of the OSS." -- Ann Coulter, P. 44

More Best Quotes from Ann Coulter's Treason

13 posted on 03/24/2008 7:15:50 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Kaslin

...bring back the Hollywood black list!


14 posted on 03/24/2008 7:29:42 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: jazusamo

Even William F. Buckley said he was a patriot decades ago, but the American people will never believe this. They have been brainwashed too long to recognize truth when it is presented to them.


15 posted on 03/24/2008 7:34:02 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: smoothsailing

Good for Ann, she sure made that plain.


16 posted on 03/24/2008 7:34:09 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: The Forgotten Man

History textbooks still follow the socialist line on McCarthy. Nothing is ever mentioned in textbooks about the Venona papers, etc. The truth is hence safely ignored, and that suits the American people just fine. The American people don’t like to be corrected about the myths in which they believe. That’s why a poll says New Yorkers have tremendous confidence in new Governor Paterson. Never mind the truth!


17 posted on 03/24/2008 7:36:46 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Theodore R.

I’m afraid you’re correct. When a four star general denounces him it shows how stupid many people are when it comes to McCarthy.


18 posted on 03/24/2008 7:37:20 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: BufordP

McPain is just not that informed about most things. He just recites what Chris Matthews wants to hear so that Chris will keep inviting him back. Still, he knows we have no choice but to “vote” for him.


19 posted on 03/24/2008 7:38:36 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Theodore R.
McPeak - not McPain. This is the bozo who said McCarthy smeared good commies, er, Americans.


20 posted on 03/24/2008 7:47:19 PM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: jazusamo
What's always interested me about the true story of Joe McCarthy is what he was really investigating. He initially had no interest in finding communists in government, even he didn't make that connection. His concern was focused on and quite limited to security risks in the State Department. He had nothing to do with the "blacklisting" of Hollywood communists, either. Joe was a U.S. Senator, the Hollywood investigation was carried out by the US House of Representatives UnAmerican Activities Committee (HUAC).

But as Coulter points out, the left has long been whining about the "dark night of facism" in America perpetrated solely by the evil Joe McCarthy.

21 posted on 03/24/2008 7:53:48 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Turret Gunner A20

PING!


22 posted on 03/24/2008 7:58:06 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

I haven’t got to the Army investigation yet in the piece but I wonder if McPeak was tweaked because the military was brought into the investigation. I did know the Hollywood people were outed by the House Committee.


23 posted on 03/24/2008 8:01:35 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: tired1

Screw Wiki. Read the book, ‘’Venona Papers’’. Came out it 1995 or 1996, sourced by none other than the KGB.


24 posted on 03/24/2008 8:04:01 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: Reaganesque
I've always said that if it is true that imitation is the sincerest form of flatery then it is quite clear what liberals REALLY think of Joseph McCarthy.

(I just bought this book and look forward to reading it)

25 posted on 03/24/2008 8:07:47 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (I'm a happy man, I have a new battery for my remote control!!!)
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To: jazusamo
I haven’t got to the Army investigation yet in the piece but I wonder if McPeak was tweaked because the military was brought into the investigation.

It could be, but my guess is McPeak just figured it was a good throwaway line to tie Clinton to a man the lefties loathe.

26 posted on 03/24/2008 8:09:38 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: BufordP
"I grew up, I was going to college when Joe McCarthy was accusing
good Americans of being traitors, so I've had enough of it."


And the names of those accussed "good Americans" that either
sued Sen. McCarthy or convincingly destroyed McCarthy's accusations are...
(sound of crickets)

Maybe McCarthy didn't always hit the target. But he sure was
correct in the main.

I almost had a heart attack when I heard the PBS NOVA presentation
titled "Secrets, Lies and Atomic Spies" essentially admit the same.
27 posted on 03/24/2008 8:14:47 PM PDT by VOA
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To: VOA; Reaganesque; BufordP; The Forgotten Man; hosepipe; jazusamo; tired1; mysterio; ...

McCarthy & American Jews.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1927254/posts

Waves of immigrants came to the USA from 1880-1920: the Poles the Italians the Irish the Jews. Most of these ethnic groups voted for FDR by large majorities in 1932, 1936 & 1940, but over time they have assimilated and become less politically monolithic. Yet to this day the American jews still vote democratic by hefty majorities.

Why?

It is because Hollywood still strenuously maintains the communist lie about the 1950-54 McCarthy era. That lie is maintained by the recent movies “A Beautiful Mind,” and “Good Night and Good Luck”.

Shortly before his death in 1953 Stalin initiated the Doctor’s Plot. There are various reasons given for that. The KGB hated Israel. Many Americans who were enthusiastic supporters of the UN were Jewish. Edvard Radzinsky in his book “Stalin” argues that while at one time Stalin hoped Jewish financial capital would help rebuild the Soviet Union after the WWII, Stalin hated the prospect of suborning himself to the Baruch Plan and he flat out rejected IAEA nuclear controls—presented in 1946 (an attitude is not entirely dissimliar to that of Iran today.) The Russians were working on their own A-bomb based on stolen US designs. Stalin, himself a Geogian, wanted to insure that the Russians saw a Russian face to a Communist Party which was top heavy with Jews.

Whatever the reason, Stalin fomented the Doctor’s plot hysteria and broke off diplomatic relations with Israel. He was within days of preparing to exile the Soviet Jews to the Gulag (as was done previously with various other ethnic minorities such as the Crimean Tatars, Chechens, etc.), and initiate another great purge along the lines of 1938.

Stalin already had the concentration camps set up, and some of the preliminary accusations had gone out for the Doctor’s Plot. 100 or so Russian jews had already been executed when he died in 1953. The important thing to recall is that the Doctor’s Plot happened at the same time as the McCarthy anti communist business from 1950-54. Also in 1953, in the US the Rosenburgs were tried and executed for treason—and this less than a decade after the Holocaust.

This naturally caused fear and suspicion in the US Jewish community. This fear and suspicion was played upon by knowledgeable communists and leftists—large numbers of whom were themselves jewish. These folk not only knew about what Stalin had done in the 1930s and had been about to do with the doctor’s plot before he died, but also saw the McCarthy trials as show trials american style . . . that is, a prelude to an american pogrom.-— For which the Rosenbergs were exhibit A.

In a brilliant piece of jujitsu, leftists and communists imputed to Americans on the right exactly what Stalin had planned to do. But it was done soto voce. Basically, a blood libel was perpetrated on Americans without their knowing it. Worse, Protestant America was painted as the tribal enemy tooth and claw of the US jewish establishment without Christian America even knowing it. Never again! — Was the battle cry. But there weren’t any such enemies of Jews in the USA. If there actually had been Christian tribal enemies in the USA, Meyer Kahane and his Jewish Defense League would have provoked them into a bloodletting. Why did Meyer Kahane behave the way he did? Because he heard the same thing as everyone else - all the Jews, that is. He heard about enemies of the jews in the heartland. But when he went to give battle, the only sorts of fights the JDL could find resulted in unintelligible court disputes in places like Idaho. In the end, Kahane married an American woman & helped expedite Stalin’s last wish—to rid Russia of Jews. When his American wife committed suicide, Kahane lost interest in the USA and focused instead on Israel. When Kahane died in 1990 it was at the hands of a Moslem.
While the American public outside NY/LA were generally given the view that the McCarthy era was an age when innocent men were unjustly tried by suspicious anti semites like McCarthy & Nixon, the NY/LA Jewish establishment was given a very different story. They were given to understand that the democrats/liberals had prevented the US from visiting a holocaust on them - and that American Jews owed their loyalty to the liberal democrats because the liberal democrats were the protectors of the Jews. And this Meme went on untouched for decades after McCarthy.

This dual track story line didn’t crack until the early 1990’s when the KGB/NKVD/GRU opened up their files on the WWII-McCarthy period. In 1995 the US’s National Security Agency opened up their Venona files. Both Russian and American spy agency files showed that McCarthy was right. The Rosenburgs were guilty. The US government —notably including the Manhattan Project—had been at one time soaked with Russian Spies. While McCarthy had the details wrong, he got the general outline of the story right. Why did McCarthy get the outline right and the details wrong? The reason is that McCarthy’s relationship to Hoover was the same as Hoover’s relationship to the NSA.

The NSA told the FBI about the Venona intercepts but insisted that the FBI could not use NSA intercepts as evidence in court. The FBI had to develop their own leads. As a result most of the spies escaped prosecution. The FBI did not get their man.

In 1950 J. Edgar Hoover began weekly meetings with Joseph McCarthy. Those meetings ended in 1954. The beginning and end of those meetings coincided with the beginning and end of McCarthy star turn in the national spot light. McCarthy got most of the details of the spy story wrong but he got the general outline of the story right. His predicament was the same as that of the FBI. Whatever Hoover told him—McCarthy could not use in the senate hearings. To this day the FBI denies that Hoover told McCarthy anything about the Venona Cables and maybe Hoover said nothing explicit to McCarthy for which Hoover could be liable in court.

Needless to say, an American style shoah was never in the cards.
The reason that Hollywood hated Ronald Reagan so much was that he was an anti communist in Hollywood during the McCarthy period. To be staunchly anti communist in Hollywood or NYC at that time was to be at least vaguely anti semitic because in the 30’s to the 50’s communism was considered to be almost a secular form of Judaism in the Jewish communities of NY/LA. Given the reputation of the Jews in capitalist countries as the quintessential capitalists, this seems ironic. But in Russia, communism was a way to get ahead for the jews. And in addition to the opportunities communism presented to Jews, there was a biblical antecedent for jewish communists in the bible in the person of Joseph in Egypt because the relationship between Jews to Joseph’s Egypt maps over well to that between Jews and Communist Russia. And the history of the Jews from Joseph to Moses looks very similar to the rise to prominence of many Jews in the soviet communist bureaucracy from the 1917-1970 and the decades long expulsion of Russia’s jews after 1970 when it became clear that communism was not working. The Russians blamed Russian jews for the failure of communism.

Reagan was among the first wave of FDR democrats to switch parties. Reagan’s star turn in Hollywood ended after McCarthy, but his experiences in Hollywood served him well when he went into public service. He always understood the jujitsu of media talk of the age. Something that cannot be said of Nixon. Nixon’s rise to prominance began with his role with the House Unamerican Activities Committee (HUAC)—a role for which gained visceral leftist enemies with long memories (in the way John Kerry gained prominence during the Viet Nam era and made visceral enemies of the swift boat veterans.) Nixons fall also coincides with the Russian expulsion of Russia’s jews.

I would not argue that Nixon paid the price for Russia’s expulsion of Russian jews. That stretches the point. However, when I hear American based Moslems talking about McCarthyism being visited on them, I have to laugh. They have unknowingly pronounced themselves guilty in the eyes of many Americans.

The history of the McCarthy period now is forgotten among American Jews except for the vague idea that somehow Republicans are bad and somehow Democrats are good.
As for the Democrats, part of the reason for the loss of their inner coherence in the last decade has been that the part of their foundational raison d’être which stems from the McCarthy era was revealed to be based on a lie. So now the core of the Democratic Party is the sodomites. Those people are not just confusing, they are confused.

David Horowitz interviewed by Rush Limbaugh some months ago — talked about how his parents were communists and he was a communist in college. He said when he was in college his views were always treated respectfully by his professors. But, he said recently, a young Christian college student told him that his homosexual college professor had singled him out in class and asked him “Why do you Christians hate queers?” Asked why he continued to do what he did in the face of all the abuse he gets, David Horowitz said that - like Rush - he took public political positions because he had to. But also he said he did it as a matter of atonement.

He gets it.

Venona Historical Writings that include comparisons of venona and russian spy lists and the changing venona story in the academy. http://www.johnearlhaynes.org/page43.html http://www.johnearlhaynes.org/index.html


28 posted on 03/24/2008 8:42:34 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer
Thanks for posting!
29 posted on 03/24/2008 8:52:26 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: ckilmer

Good piece, ck, thanks for posting and the links.


30 posted on 03/24/2008 9:06:57 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Kaslin
http://wwx2.tripod.com/mccarthy.html

Snip

With the opening of the KGB archives and the release of the VENONA intercepts - decoded Soviet KGB and GRU traffic - it has been proved that McCarthy was absolutely right about the extensive Soviet penetration of the U.S. government in all the most sensitive sections and its danger to America.

http://www.nsa.gov/venona/index.cfm

According to the KGB archives the NKVD had 221 agents in the Roosevelt administration in April 1941 and the Soviet military GRU probably had a like number. He was proved right that the Communist Party, U.S.A., was an arm of the Soviet intelligence apparatus and the Soviet Union considered the US as their "main enemy." His liberal critics in academe and the mainstream media, who denied there was Communist subversion and made excuses for it, were proved absolutely wrong! This should have discredited the liberal ideology and those who mouthed it. Because the left had no answer or effective reply to the challenge McCarthy posed, they engaged in personal destruction - they smeared and demonized McCarthy because he was truth.

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But the best I have read so far is Ann’s section on the Senator in the following book:

Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism by Ann Coulter (Hardcover - Jun 24, 2003) 248 Used & new from $0.01 = 3.99 S&H

And I watched most of the hearings, and followed the whole viscious Democraat persecution of the Senatorfrom the start of his diclosures to his death. And the Democrats haven't been able to tell the truth about anything since that disgraceful performance of theirs against one of the greatest patriots in our history.

31 posted on 03/24/2008 9:16:33 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: ckilmer

Thanks.. Horowitz knows where the bodies are buried, some of them..


32 posted on 03/24/2008 9:55:24 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: smoothsailing

And too McPain just doesn’t know the real McCarthy story and has no interest in learning it.


33 posted on 03/25/2008 3:44:10 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: ckilmer

Thanks!


34 posted on 03/25/2008 7:48:39 AM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: Kaslin

Here’s the book for those who don’t read the article :)

http://www.amazon.com/Blacklisted-History-Senator-McCarthy-Americas/dp/140008105X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1206457473&sr=1-1


35 posted on 03/25/2008 8:06:42 AM PDT by Eepsy (The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: ckilmer
Thank you for the post. I took me a couple of days to read it and send a reply. I found the post interesting and in keeping with topics I have recently gravitated toward in the books I have or am reading. I read "Blacklisted by History" and found it fascinating. Since then, I have read another about McCarthy and must confide my curiosity has certainly been spiked.

I,in my younger days had a blind sense of trust for those who ideologically I identified with as sincere in their efforts to do "good". I now have a small backlog of books of similar topics I intend to read.

I just finished "The True Story of The Bilderberg Group". Understanding the links between the CFR, Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group is to say the least, concerning and frightening. Feel free to recommend any titles you may think would relate to what I have described here. I will keep an eye out for your post/replies.

36 posted on 03/27/2008 9:07:53 AM PDT by The Forgotten Man (He works, he votes, generally he prays--but he always pays....)
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To: The Forgotten Man

I can’t recommend a title. It a big broad subject. But I think you already have your arms around it.

There are regularly articles posted at freerepublic on some aspect of the efforts of the elites of both parties toward integrating the USA into the NAU. This embraces everything from emigration policy, and criminal justice to the transtexas corridor and water issues.

More generally the NAU problem comes under the general umbrella of sovereignty issues which embrace law of the sea issues, “harmonizing US laws with other countries” through the courts, Tokyo global warming and others.

American elites tend to tow the line of the very richest in the USA to the detriment of the american middle class. The group of americans making 50+ million annually typically have become nomads. Hunter gatherers. They don’t really have a country anymore. So they want everyone else to be the same way. Might be good for them. They have their own lawyers guns and money. But the rest of the country needs a country.

Its all a question of where you put the wall. Around the gated communities of the very rich and the middle class as they do in latin america or at the southern border of the USA.


37 posted on 03/31/2008 12:04:33 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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