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Reverend Wright Will Be A Problem For Obama
CBS News ^ | March 24, 2008 | Michael Barone

Posted on 03/25/2008 11:45:00 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Will the preachings of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright continue to be a problem for Barack Obama? The balance of opinion, after everyone has had a chance to digest Obama's March 18 speech, seems to be yes. Or at least that's how I read such varied commentators as ABC News's Jake Tapper, Charles Krauthammer, the New Republic's Dayo Opolade, University of Chicago Prof. Charles Lipson, the New York Daily News's Michael Goodwin, and the international treasure Mark Steyn in the Orange County Register.

In my Creators Syndicate column this week, I look at these comments from a somewhat different view. In Democratic primaries and caucuses, Obama has been winning extraordinary percentages of support from black voters and young voters. His support from black voters is no surprise, though one must remember that back in November 2007, only four months ago, he was running behind Hillary Clinton among blacks in some polls in some contests. His support from young voters--from the millennial generation, to use the terminology of William Strauss and Neal Howe, rose to extraordinary levels much earlier in the cycle--and was reflected not just in polling results but in volunteer efforts and campaign contributions. I cited Morley Winograd and Michael Hais's very interesting, just-published book Millennial Makeover for the proposition that these young voters find racial conflict and anger very off-putting. Obama's portrait of himself as a leader who transcends race has been very attractive, I think, to millennial voters--responsible as much as anything else for their allegiance. To these same voters, the rantings of Reverend Wright are profoundly unattractive. Will the facts that Obama has been a member of Wright's congregation for more than 20 years and has named Wright as his spiritual mentor diminish Obama in millennials' eyes? I don't know, but it's a critically important question. If the answer is yes, then the chance that Democratic superdelegates will award the nomination to Hillary Clinton seems to rise.


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1 posted on 03/25/2008 11:45:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not only for Obama but for the whole congregation. The people must be real foos and followers, with a thought of their own to listen to this guy. No wonder they live in poverty.


2 posted on 03/25/2008 11:47:27 AM PDT by RC2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Everything going as planned. The DemocRATS are flying on autopilot and are heading directly into the side of a mountain.


3 posted on 03/25/2008 11:50:26 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Comments?

I like Michael Barone calling Mark Steyn an "international treasure".

Oh, you want comments about Obama and the wrong Rev. Wright? Yeah, big problem for the NObama.

4 posted on 03/25/2008 11:50:57 AM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If Obama is a general election liability, the party establishment will probably nominate Hillary. If the Democrats are going to lose this year, they're better off having a close loss with a woman candidate than losing by a landslide with a black nationalist at the top of the ticket.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

5 posted on 03/25/2008 11:51:13 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ya think ya have the keywords covered lol?


6 posted on 03/25/2008 11:51:34 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Once you’ve seen the Rev. Wright’s video clips on TV or on YouTube, it’s hard to get them out of your head. That’s got to hurt Obama with independents, and it may even soften his support even among liberals.


7 posted on 03/25/2008 11:51:47 AM PDT by Califelephant
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To: RC2
No wonder they live in poverty.

What poverty? This is a pretty affluent congregation.

8 posted on 03/25/2008 11:52:06 AM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was wondering if anyone knows someone who watches Oprah? Has she said anything about the pastor controversy?


9 posted on 03/25/2008 11:52:22 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As more and more people find out about:

THE TRUTH ABOUT BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY

...which is what Wright's sermons are all based on, and what the Trinity Church and Obama clearly espouse...yes, it will continue to be a huge problem for him. As well it should.

10 posted on 03/25/2008 11:53:31 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Reverend Wright Will Be A Problem For Obama”

“Comments?”

Absolutely. Folks need only look for themselves:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Obama’s Pastor Celebrates 9/11 (explicit)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzhl-endvco

Obama’s Racially-Divisive Pastor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUbUBTlmAiA

Obama Disrespecting U.S. Flag and Anthem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8QCkgg5Kjo

The Audacity of Barack Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwjnT4eJJvs

The Audacity of Barack Obama 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeC8BE-2T_k

Is Obama Wright? - Pastor Wright & Senator Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72B3tUAqpo4

Obama’s Pastor - 9/11 Fault of Israel Association

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnI431s1r6s

Obama - Cult of Personality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP7lUGn7HWk

Name Obama’s Accomplishments if you can #1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGeu_4Ekx-o

Name Obama’s Accomplishments if you can #2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzFOOcEQtP0

Barack Obama: There Will Be Bamboozling

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuB_W8o_UsU

The Two Things Senator Obama Accomplished

http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/27/obamas-empty-change-message/


11 posted on 03/25/2008 11:53:34 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

20 years is 20 years and no amount of “My White grandmamma etc etc “is going to change it

In fact using his grandmamma as a political expediency is going to backfire


12 posted on 03/25/2008 11:54:40 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: rockinqsranch
"Ya think ya have the keywords covered lol?"

No, can you think of some more? LOL

13 posted on 03/25/2008 11:55:05 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.fourfriedchickensandacoke.blogspot.com)
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To: JZelle

Not a word......as far as I know.


14 posted on 03/25/2008 11:55:41 AM PDT by zip.com
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To: JZelle
Last time I tuned in to Oprah was just to see Condi as a guest (five years ago?). From Hot Air:

Oprah’s boards burning with Wright responses; Wright accuses America of creating the HIV virus
15 posted on 03/25/2008 11:56:46 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I judge black people by the content of their character they keep. So if Barack Obama is friends with Tony Rezko and Jeremiah Wright, then....


16 posted on 03/25/2008 11:57:03 AM PDT by gunservative
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To: RC2

Pop some popcorn, open a cool drink, relax in an easy chair, put the remote in your hand, and enjoy. Its going to be a great ride.


17 posted on 03/25/2008 11:57:11 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s right about Steyn: he is an international treasure.


18 posted on 03/25/2008 11:57:42 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I previously made the argument that Hillary would have to choose Obama as her VP because she needed him, but that Obama would not choose Hillary because he did not need her.

With the reversal in Obama’s fortunes, though, I am now thinking I may have gotten it exactly backwards.


19 posted on 03/25/2008 11:58:48 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: bcsco
Here's a pretty incitful post about the area this congregation is from...

Obama, or, history in black and white.

It's not exactly a down-trodden area of Chicago. There are housing projects of course, but it's not an area ridden in poverty. I had relatives that lived a little West of there (in Oak Lawn) many years ago.

20 posted on 03/25/2008 11:59:53 AM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: Jeff Head

That’s what I’d like to see Obama nailed on, the BLT that is the foundation of his church, and tenets of which he wrote in his autobiography he saw and liked from the start.

In all good time, I suppose, as I’d still like to see him get the nomination first.


21 posted on 03/25/2008 12:00:07 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: JZelle

Oprah is too busy “healing and guiding souls” to worry about Wright.


22 posted on 03/25/2008 12:02:16 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve got to give credit to “Kinky” Friedman for this phrase. He said the Rev Wright was a disaster pastor for BO.


23 posted on 03/25/2008 12:03:19 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (His middle name is NOT Hussein for being a Christian.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

did Barone switch over to CBS from Fox? Probably felt Fox was moving Rove onto his turf. Too bad, he’ll be a big loss at Fox and I’d be surprised if he fits in with the CBS leftist culture.


24 posted on 03/25/2008 12:04:08 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Osama Obama’s racist church and preacher could cause a landslide loss for the RATS in Nov.

The only problem is that unless Hildabeast is in the race to the bloody end voters wont hear about it.

The day she's out of the race you will never hear a peep about it again.
We have to keep the Beast in until the convention.

25 posted on 03/25/2008 12:05:16 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: beer
Obama is on vacation, getting a 'tan'.

"Typical White Person" shirt on Ebay.
26 posted on 03/25/2008 12:05:26 PM PDT by evets
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As he should be.

Anti-American racists are problems for everyone.


27 posted on 03/25/2008 12:06:02 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: F15Eagle

PING for Obama.


28 posted on 03/25/2008 12:08:57 PM PDT by WOSG (Solve all the world's problems .... Just build more nukes already.)
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To: bcsco

Try, if you can stomach it, listening to Chicago AM1690 and listen to the continual hate “typical whites” discussion everyday.

http://www.wvon.com/aboutus/history.php


29 posted on 03/25/2008 12:09:48 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Aaron0617
how could a preacher in your church sink your entire campaign? Its not as if he was caught on a boat with a blond on his lap, or crashed off a bridge killing a woman in a ravine. I don't get this Rev Wright issue. I haven't commented on this before I thought it would've passed by now

All these inner city black preachers are socialist. Whether its Rev Wright, Rev Meeks, Father Fleiger(sp), Jesse Jackson and on and on. No matter what church Obama went to I don't see how it would be any different.

sorry for my rant, it's not an issue to me. Because it isn't a surprise.

30 posted on 03/25/2008 12:13:16 PM PDT by Aaron0617
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To: KeyLargo

Oh, I’ve heard it before. But thanks for the link. Racism is alive in Black America.


31 posted on 03/25/2008 12:13:46 PM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Old News CBS- we want you to do more stories on Clintoon LIES

(someone must have raised hell over them covering the Bosnia/sniper lie story)


32 posted on 03/25/2008 12:15:37 PM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Aaron0617
Most of white America wasn't aware of the extent of the hatred felt by blacks towards them, IMO. It's a wakeup call, and we aren't disposed to elect someone chief magistrate from that environment.
33 posted on 03/25/2008 12:16:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.fourfriedchickensandacoke.blogspot.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Will the preachings of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright continue to be a problem for Barack Obama? The balance of opinion...seems to be yes.”

Cue The Master of The Obvious photo!


34 posted on 03/25/2008 12:19:58 PM PDT by Canedawg (No Che Hussein NObama, and the Hildebeast, too)
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To: F15Eagle

Thanks for the list!


35 posted on 03/25/2008 12:21:22 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (WELL I SPEAK LOUD, AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK, AND I USE IT TOO!)
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To: RC2

Wright very well might be a product of, instead of a cause of, the problem.

The victimhood mentality has been engrained and perpetuated by leftists in order to maintain their power.

Even if Wright never said another word before November, there are still a HUGE number of leftists out there that believe exactly as he does, and Wright’s exposure just allowed them to come out and tell us.

Do you think the majority of “white Americans” realized how much this community despises, resents, and yes, hates us?

Shocked, shocked I tell you! Seriously.


36 posted on 03/25/2008 12:22:42 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: JZelle
I was wondering if anyone knows someone who watches Oprah? Has she said anything about the pastor controversy?

That was my question to my wife this morning.

No matter what she says there are going to be some pretty mad people out there.

37 posted on 03/25/2008 12:25:03 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: Aaron0617

The Reverend is Obama’s spiritual adviser...the man who married him, baptized his kids, and until a few weeks ago, was involved in his campaign. Combine his rants with Mrs. Obama’s recent bad-mouthing of America. As Brit Hume has said—we don’t know anything about this man because the media has protected him. Well, we have a right to know if he wants to be our president. Is he anti-American, too? Does he believe in the ideas of his pastor and church?


38 posted on 03/25/2008 12:25:03 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Aaron0617
how could a preacher in your church sink your entire campaign? Its not as if he was caught on a boat with a blond on his lap, or crashed off a bridge killing a woman in a ravine. I don't get this Rev Wright issue. I haven't commented on this before I thought it would've passed by now

Ask Romney. Ask a Wiccan. Ask a Unitarian.

39 posted on 03/25/2008 12:25:23 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (WELL I SPEAK LOUD, AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK, AND I USE IT TOO!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How could anyone hate us white baby boomers? We’re just
so wondeful.Just ask any of us.


40 posted on 03/25/2008 12:27:27 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: Aaron0617
I don't get this Rev Wright issue.

Wright is simply reflecting the hatred, resentment, and victimhood mentality of his "constituency group".

I myself didn't realize the hatred until I saw and heard people defending Wright by repeating what he said and insisting that he was right about the things he ranted about.

Myself? I am shtfull. It's time to set a standard of behavior and a common set of rules for everyone. If you don't work, you don't eat. You have a kid out of wedlock, it's your problem. Don't marry the father of your kids and they get into trouble? Yes, we'll build more prisons. Riot? Burn down your own neighborhoods, I don't care, try it elsewhere and be shot.

41 posted on 03/25/2008 12:27:39 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Upon much consideration:

1. It depends on how long this stuff percolates. People who would vote democrat have selective or short memories, or no higher brain functions whatsoever. So, all could be forgotten, all forgiven, by November. But lets’ break it down by group.

2. Much to my dismay, racial division in America is alive and unwell, due in large part to the Wrights, Jacksons and Sharptons. Therefore,

2a. The majority of African Americans will support BO to the last ditch. He can do no wrong in their eyes simply because he’s black. And they will defend Wright, too. It’s the same thing we saw with the OJ Simpson trial. Black pundits then said “trust us” when a black jury was empaneled. The result speaks for itself. Much to my dismay, black bigotry against whites probably now exceeds white bigotry against blacks. Black racism is justified, white racism is created where it doesn’t exist, and is then vilified.

2b. To the extent that white bigotry still exists, you most likely find it among working class whites, long a core component of the democrat coalition. I’m not sure a democrat can win a presidential election w/o this group. Wright’s statements, the defense of Wright by other black “talking heads” and Barack’s response to all this, means these people will not vote for BHO. But they were already voting for clinton.

3. The elite effete white liberals will blanch initially, but then go back and guzzle the BHO Kool-Aid; they’ve been programmed to bear “white guilt” since the indoctrination began in kindergarten, and it has been encouraged at home. Allowed to digest this for a while, the elite effetes will eventually blame themselves, and as penance will renew their support for BHO.

4. HRC, as an opponent to BHO, is running the most incompetent campaign in modern history. Never before have I seen a candidate start in such an advantageous position and yet squander every advantage she had. Prime example; immediately after the Wright fiasco hands her a prime opportunity, she bungles it by trying to sound like Rambo on a USO tour. Rush and Hannity aren’t talking about Obama today, they are pounding HRC as a liar again.

5. The MSM has taken sides and they have chosen BHO as our next president. They are actively participating as BHO’s propaganda organ, and they will spin nothing but positives about him. Wright will be forgotten in the fog of “hope” and “change.”

So, short term within the context of the democrat nomination, the Wright fiasco will hurt BHO, but it will be a blip and he’ll recover to win the nomination. Someone could find a video of BHO engaging in a sex act with a ten year old boy and a German Shepherd while accepting a bribe at midnight in the basement of the Chinese Embassy, and it won’t matter. HRC will bungle it with another gaffe, the MSM will say he’d known the dog for a long time and explain it away, and pile on HRC.

The long term, where it matters in November, I think the Wright fiasco WILL cost BHO the election. It will crystallize the divisions in the democrat party. Those who support BHO will continue to do so through November. Those who currently support HRC (the white working class) will probably NOT support BHO in November. And because of that I don’t think he can win the states he has to win to be POTUS.


42 posted on 03/25/2008 12:28:16 PM PDT by henkster (I'm a typical white guy)
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To: MrB

I like the way you think.


43 posted on 03/25/2008 12:37:19 PM PDT by abovethefray
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To: Paleo Conservative

***The DemocRATS are flying on autopilot and are heading directly into the side of a mountain.

Just like ron brown


44 posted on 03/25/2008 12:38:54 PM PDT by Taffini (Mr. Pippin and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: Aaron0617

Rev. Wright is not really the issue. Perhaps, he has reasons of his own to be bitter and angry and to hate America. Sorry, of course, that he does, but the issue here is Obama. Rev. Wright is not asking to be president, Obama is. If Obama shares Wright’s hate-America views, a lot of people, rightly, don’t want him to be president.


45 posted on 03/25/2008 12:38:59 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve been saying it for years that many blacks are racists towards whites, hispanics and asians.

The amoiunt of times I have corrected a black person because they say hey white boy or white trash or get your white arse here etc etc

I ask them everytime would it be alright to say black boy, black trash and everytime they say no that’s racist and they say it with a straight face even the white libs don’t see the point I make.

This has made some aware that blacks can be racist just like any colour

There is a double standered with blacks from affirmative action to blacks saying it’s OK for them to say Nig### to even a certain black man who owns a NY basket ball team saying it’s ok for a black man to say Bit## or ho# but not alright for a white person.

It is a wake up call for everyone and hopefully a wake up call for those who thought about voting for obama


46 posted on 03/25/2008 12:41:49 PM PDT by manc
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To: DungeonMaster

My pleasure - copy and share


47 posted on 03/25/2008 12:42:01 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: RC2
Not only for Obama but for the whole congregation. The people must be real foos and followers, with a thought of their own to listen to this guy. No wonder they live in poverty. ..... It isn't just Obama's congregation. There are many black as well as white congregations who display similar responses to nonsensical statements. Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with raising hands and congregational praise but it's enthusiastic response to unorthodox nonsense that is troublesome. This kind of empty-headed emotionalism is dangerous. And the trend to react emotionally and not rationally has infected our entire cultural. Having gotten that off my chest, the Rev.White's remarks were off the charts and Obama knew it.
48 posted on 03/25/2008 12:42:18 PM PDT by Nanny7
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To: Aaron0617

the reason why the Wright issue resonates, in my opinion, is that Michelle Obama’s comments seemed to strike the same discordant note. Hannity had been pushing the Wright angle for awhile, but it gathered steam after MO ranted on being proud of her country for the first time.


49 posted on 03/25/2008 12:43:39 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: evets

You just gave me an idea. I’m going to look into buying a medium size helium filled balloon, like the ones the car dealers often use, paint Typical White Person on it...... and raise it up in my yard.

It might also look good on a flag too.


50 posted on 03/25/2008 12:44:12 PM PDT by Gator113 (Obama has "changed" me. I am now "a Typical White Person”.)
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