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PM: Serbia not choosing between Russia and West
B92 ^ | 3/25/08 | Staff

Posted on 03/25/2008 1:34:32 PM PDT by Bokababe

BELGRADE -- PM Vojislav Koštunica says Serbia needs a stable government that will have a unanimous policy on Kosovo.

The Democratic Party of Serbia (DSS) leader told the public broadcaster RTS last night that parliamentary elections had been called for this reason, following the unilateral declaration of Kosovo's independence.

Koštunica did not directly answer the question whether he would cooperate with the Radicals after the vote, or whether he would participate in a government with the same partners.

He said he would cooperate with the parties that support his party's key principles - "Kosovo Is Serbia," membership in the EU with Kosovo as the country's integral part, economic development, and the fight against corruption and organized crime.

Commenting on the statement by Democratic Party (DS) officials, that the new prime minister would be from their party, Koštunica said "it means that to certain parties, power is more important than political beliefs."

“The question why Serbia needed presidential elections when negotiations were being concluded is justified,” he said, and reiterated his criticism of former coalition partners, the Democratic Party (DS) and G17 Plus, saying their stories of self isolation were the dirtiest form of propaganda.

According to Koštunica, statements that Serbia would isolate itself if it did not succumb to EU pressure were “nonsense”, because, using the same logic, one could interpret Norway’s vote against EU entrance as a vote for self-isolation.

“There is neither isolation nor the possibility of Serbia being exposed to sanctions. Self-isolation doesn’t exist because no state ever has done that,” he added.

“Things are being dramatized and presented as an either-or choice, as if we have to choose between Russia and the West. That is nonsense, that either-or is the most vulgar and worst form of propaganda,” Koštunica said.

The prime minister added that he backed the "dispute" with the EU and the countries that had recognized Kosovo's independence, which could lead to those countries withdrawing or reconsidering their decision, and later agreeing to new talks on the province.

Koštunica once again said Serbia should not sign the Stabilization and Association Agreement (SAA) until Brussels stated whether it recognized Serbia within its existing borders.

According to Koštunica, Brussels and Belgrade had many issues to resolve, including "the illegal deployment of the EULEX mission to Kosovo."

"All that can be discussed, rather than only saying: Here, I'll sign right away, I have sharpened my pen...," Koštunica stressed and added that it was in Serbia's interest to cooperate not only with the EU, but also with Russia.

In his words, membership in the EU should be "left aside," because Serbia would join the EU only "in many, many years."

Koštunica once again stressed that he saw no reason for Serbia to join NATO. He recalled that parliament had adopted a resolution on the protection of Serbia's sovereignty and territorial integrity, and stressed that the document, among other things, envisaged Serbia's military neutrality.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: balkans; eu; illegalimmigrants; islamofascists; jihad; mohammedanism; russia; serbia; wrongside

1 posted on 03/25/2008 1:34:33 PM PDT by Bokababe
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; vooch; ...

2 posted on 03/25/2008 1:36:26 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

Given their treatment by the West, they ought to choose Russia...


3 posted on 03/25/2008 1:37:33 PM PDT by Little Ray (McCain: If I have to. I guess...)
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To: All
It's ironic.

In this game the children of communists like Tadic, who are themselves Socialists, are pushing to join the socialist EU. But we call them "pro-Western moderates".

Guys like Kostunica, who if they lived here in the US would be called "Conservatives", but they get called "hardline nationalists" by our media. Go figure.

4 posted on 03/25/2008 1:42:44 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Little Ray
"Given their treatment by the West, they ought to choose Russia..."

Actually, I think that their smartest move is not to "choose" at all.

If they choose Russia, the West will see that as continual justification to "kick Russia in the Serbia", as it has been doing. If they chose the EU, they volunteer to be dismantled & lose all control of their sovereignty.

By choosing, they lose. By not choosing, they buy time to maybe wooed.

5 posted on 03/25/2008 1:49:44 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

Maybe, but at this point “The West,” seems to rate Serbia/Serbians as the lowest of the low. I don’t see them “helping” Serbia ever, for any reason.


6 posted on 03/25/2008 1:52:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Bokababe

Whatever it takes for the Serbs to survive. They are in a dangerous neighborhood and the cops are NOT their friends...

I’m just sorry the US had piece in this travesty.


7 posted on 03/25/2008 1:52:22 PM PDT by Little Ray (McCain: If I have to. I guess...)
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To: Bokababe

Koštunica once again stressed that he saw no reason for Serbia to join NATO.

In other words: Koštunica is a NATO agent playing the “nationalist” role in this poorly staged theater.


8 posted on 03/25/2008 1:55:05 PM PDT by VlPu
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To: Little Ray

So am I.

We should be on Serbia’s side, not fighting for those Muslims.

Once again, the idiocy of two Bushes and a Clinton have come home to roost.

America deserves a President who stands up for the west against Islamic aggression, and the three stool pigeons running now certainly don’t.

Our best hope is McCain chooses a real conservative as a VEEP and then has to step down for some reason.


9 posted on 03/25/2008 1:59:59 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

Won’t happen. The most “conservative” VP I can imagine him picking is Romney. More likely, McCain pick somebody just like him... Joe Leiberman for example.


10 posted on 03/25/2008 2:01:47 PM PDT by Little Ray (McCain: If I have to. I guess...)
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To: VlPu
"In other words: Koštunica is a NATO agent playing the “nationalist” role in this poorly staged theater."

Where does that line of reasoning come from? Because I doubt it.

Kostunica just chooses NOT to forget that NATO bombed Serbia for 78 straight days. And of all the criticism Kostunica has gotten over the years, and there has been a lot of criticism of him, no one really questions his sincerity.

11 posted on 03/25/2008 2:10:18 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: nickcarraway
"“The West,” seems to rate Serbia/Serbians as the lowest of the low. I don’t see them “helping” Serbia ever, for any reason."

"Never" is a very long time. And I really don't think that Western politicians believe all the propaganda that they feed us.

They treat Serbia the way that they do because Serbia is "in their way", because they can get away with treating Serbia with disrespect because they have been so successful at doing a snow-job on us about her, and because they are using Serbia as a surrogate whipping boy for Russia. If any of those conditions should change, our politicians would change in a heartbeat.

For example, who in the world would have ever imagined that the US would have been kissing up to Albania ten years ago? I mean friggin Albania? And yet now, they are supposedly "our best friends". Gimme a break! But we needed something from her -- a seaport to export oil.

I am sorry, but I don't believe that most our politicians and our State Department have any loyalty to anyone or anything -- not to us, not to our country, nor to anyone but their own careers and campaign contributors. If they did, our borders would have been secured, our immigration policies would have changed in short order after 9/11 -- if not before-- and we wouldn't be having many of the problems we have today.

12 posted on 03/25/2008 2:27:58 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
Kostunica is a trojan horse who brought the DOS into power on his coat tales. He is a liar and has done nothing to help Serbia. Nothing.

He promised the relatives of the missing and kidnapped Kosovo Serbs that he would not release the Albanian/KLA prisoners in Serbia's jails until Serbia was able to receive the bodies of their dead relatives or recover any alive. Then the next week with no progress on that front he released thousands of captured KLA/Albanian criminals.

The guy's a liar. Serbs who believe in him at this point are fools.

13 posted on 03/25/2008 4:13:22 PM PDT by joan
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To: Bokababe
Mr. Hoolbrooke is always "loyal" to Serbia: BELGRADE -- Richard Holbrook says regardless of who becomes the next U.S. president, policies towards Serbia won't change. The former U.S. envoy to the Balkans told daily Večernje Novosti that the coming elections would be more important for the people of Serbia than the politicians, and that there would be a clear choice between Kosovo and Europe. “Kosovo is lost for good, and Serbia can now lose Europe for good as well,” Holbrook said. “These are strategically important elections, because they will decide whether Serbia is moving towards Europe, and whether it will open the doors of the future for its children and grandchildren, for an effective economy, European values, or if it will be an isolated island in Europe,” the former envoy said. He stressed that the question of KosovoÂ’s status had ended for the U.S. with WashingtonÂ’s recognition of KosovoÂ’s unilaterally declared independence. ... http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2008&mm=03&dd=25&nav_id=48770
14 posted on 03/25/2008 4:38:52 PM PDT by BabaYaga (BRE!)
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To: Little Ray

We have driven Serbia into the arms of Mother Russia. I would not be surprised in the least if the Serbians invite Russia to establish bases in the country.


15 posted on 03/25/2008 4:41:03 PM PDT by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: Little Ray

The day that Lieberman announces his putative switch to the Republican Party, you will know it’s coming for sure.

A John-Joe ticket was my prediction almost a month ago once it became clear that McCain had wrapped up the nomination.

It’s really the only way he could win the Presidency because he knows he’s not going to be able to convince the conservative base to turn out in sufficient numbers. That means he is going to have to grab all of the center-left as well as all of the center-right.

He is fortunate in his enemies in that both Clinton and Obama are hardcore Marxist types that make the center-left nervous. Especially the religious working class. He is also fortunate in that both of them have pledged to withdraw from Iraq because, as I have said before, while most Americans dislike the war, they dislike losing even more — and national security (an area where John-Joe definitely see eye to eye) remains very important.


16 posted on 03/25/2008 4:48:42 PM PDT by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: nickcarraway

The Serbs are heroes; nobody else ever really stood up to the beast and tried to face it down during the KKKlinton regime.


17 posted on 03/25/2008 5:58:29 PM PDT by jeddavis
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To: Bokababe

What a wuss!

At what point will the serbs get it????


18 posted on 03/25/2008 6:22:07 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Duncan Hunter- The very Govts unwilling to support us in the WOT got the Fuel Tanker Deal)
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To: Ronin

How are they going to establish bases in the country? Take a look at a map! No surrounding country is going to permit the use of their airspace. All military flights would have to be permitted. No neighbouring nations is going to permit arms and troops to be flown into Serbia to establish a base or replenish said base.

Serbia is still under treaty in relation to its arms and equipment with surrounding nations. No surrounding country is going to permit or aid any inbalance in forces or equipment in the region. No access from the sea and no access from the air. Russia is hamstrung. They withdrew their peacekeeping forces from both Bosnia and Kosovo.


19 posted on 03/25/2008 6:32:35 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: Tommyjo

I am not sure how the doctrine of Innocent Passage applies in this case, but I know for a fact that the USN uses that doctrine to enter the territorial waters of other nations in transit from one location to another.

Be that as it may, I wouldn’t put it past Putin to organize a massive airlift and dare NATO to stop it. By the time the NATO folks finished dithering and consulting, he could have several regiments and their equipment on the ground.


20 posted on 03/25/2008 6:37:04 PM PDT by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: Little Ray

If he picks Joe Loserman he’s finished - Kaput.

Romney would have made a better candidate - not great, but better.

Hunter was the best but the media killed him in the debates by freezing him out and the big international corporations killed him by not contributing because he was critical of the China trade scams.


21 posted on 03/25/2008 6:53:13 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Bokababe

Albanians were the imperial warriors for the Ottomans. Their role today is similar for the US in the Balkans. Everything old is new again.


22 posted on 03/25/2008 8:14:16 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Tommyjo
Take a look at a map! No surrounding country is going to permit the use of their airspace. All military flights would have to be permitted. No neighbouring nations is going to permit arms and troops to be flown into Serbia to establish a base or replenish said base.....No access from the sea and no access from the air. Russia is hamstrung

I wouldn't hold my breath on that. The list of countries who have not yet recognized Kosovo and -- especially those who have definitely stated that they will never recognize Kosovo independence -- might allow limited airspace use or access from the sea for the specific purpose of assisting Serbia in her defense of Kosovo. Like it or not, NATO is the "occupier" and not the native to that region.

Ukraine is on the fence, Belarus and Romania have said "no way" to recognizing Kosovo, Montenegro has said "not yet" -- but the Montenegrin people have said "no way".

It's not as cut & dried as you might think. They don't want a war, but like it or not, Russia is a lot closer to them than to us -- and they aren't going to shoot down Russian planes over this.

23 posted on 03/25/2008 8:23:09 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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Americans heading for north Kosovo, MakFax
March 25, 2008 on 2:38 am | In News in English, Kosovo & Metohija |

A thousand of National Guard members are undergoing training in the Federal State of Missouri in the frameworks of preparations for joining the international peacekeeping force in Kosovo, Voice of America reported.

Most of the force should reach Kosovo by June, once they complete the training course.

According to the plan, the soldiers are scheduled to serve under KFOR command until March 2009.

Missouri’s leading newspaper St. Louis Post cited Brig Gen. Larry Kay as saying that the soldiers are most likely to be called on to support NATO forces in volatile, northern regions of Kosovo.


24 posted on 03/25/2008 8:27:43 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

ruh-roh!


25 posted on 03/25/2008 8:48:28 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Little Ray

“I’m just sorry the US had piece in this travesty.”

A rather prominent piece and it’s heartbreaking. I’m surprised they don’t make true the lies of hollywood and turn into terrorists, fascists or both. Certainly we can’t reasonably expect the Serbs to become our friends again anytime soon.


26 posted on 03/25/2008 9:25:42 PM PDT by fire and forget
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To: Bokababe

Thanks for the ping. I’m still waiting for someone to articulate some kind of justification for this; something that’s not nine-year-old leftist CNN/Euro news propaganda long since proven false.


27 posted on 03/25/2008 9:28:35 PM PDT by fire and forget
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To: Bokababe
Romania [has] said "no way" to recognizing Kosovo,...

The reason is because in the central geographic part of Romania you have populations that see themselves separate from the central government in Bucharest.

28 posted on 03/25/2008 9:56:54 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Bokababe

Bokababe, Ronin,

You are living in a dream world. There is no Russian cavalry coming to the rescue. They can do nothing. Russia is not going to violate any sovereign countries airspace or assist, help Serbia retake Kosovo militarily. Russia loves its seat on the U.N. far too much to risk losing it over direct military action.

Russia would be seen as the aggressor in its violation and disregard of sovereign territory. The consequences of such a Russian action would destabilise the region and involve far too many nations. They are hamstrung over Kosovo and are not coming to the rescue. Period. Get back to me and let me know when the first VDV/VTA units start arriving in Serbia.


29 posted on 03/26/2008 4:31:43 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: fire and forget
Here's a letter from a German diplomat back in 2000 describing the plan for Kosovo. Forget Serbs & Albanians. It had nothing to do with either of them -- it is simply that the US missed an opportunity back in 1945 to establish a military presence in the Balkans (with which to threaten Russia & everyone else in the neighborhood who won't fall in line) and they decided to rectify it.

"Kosovo independence" is not what it seems -- NATO ripped a piece of Serbia off to establish a permanent military base of operations.

"Kosovo" is now the first "NATO state" -- NATO owns it, runs it and will destroy anyone who threatens it. Welcome to the new millennium and the NWO!

30 posted on 03/26/2008 9:41:03 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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