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Jarheads (Hillary looked into joining the Marines in 1975? Another Lie?)
ABC News ^ | March 25, 2008 12:55 PM | Jake Tapper

Posted on 03/25/2008 1:50:16 PM PDT by Buffalo Bob

In light of Tuzla-gate (catchy, no?), reporters are going over past statements by Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, (and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois) to see if others don't stand more rigorous examination.

One that may get renewed scrutiny is a story she told “Women in Military Service” in 1994 -- that shortly after the end of the Vietnam war, she looked into joining the Marines.

In June 1994, Clinton told an organization trying to build a memorial for women who had served in the armed forces, that while living in Fayetteville, Arkansas, in 1975, “I decided that I was very interested in having some experience in serving in some capacity in the military. So I walked into our local recruiting office...”

Clinton recalled that she didn’t know if she wanted to be active duty, reserves, or National Guard. She was already a lawyer; surely there was a role she could perform. The Marine recruiter looked at her, she recalled, and asked how old she was. Twenty-seven, she said.

“He looked at me, and in those days that was before I learned how to wear contact lenses," Clinton said. "I had these really thick glasses on. He said, ‘How bad's your eyesight?' I said, ‘It's pretty bad.' …Finally said to me, he said, 'You're too old. You can't see. And you're a woman.…But maybe the dogs would take you.'”

("Dogs” would be a pejorative reference to the Army.)

Clinton continued, “I said, ‘This is not a very encouraging conversation, so maybe I'll look for another way to serve my country.’”

That seems an odd pronouncement for the recruiter to have made, considering that at the time, according to A History of the Women Marines, female Marines who became pregnant were permitted to remain on active service, as this photograph attests. And I believe the military had a few recruiting problems back in the 1970s -- hence their abject rejection of a brainy lawyer wouldn't make much sense. (Then again, ask a soldier how often Pentagon rules "make sense.")

At the time Clinton told the story, the New York Times’ Maureen Dowd seemed to wonder about it, pointing out that Hillary and Bill Clinton were married on Oct. 11, 1975 in Fayetteville.

“So, if she was talking to a Marine recruiter in 1975 before the marriage, was she briefly considering joining the few, the proud and the brave of the corps as an alternative to life with Mr. Clinton, who was already being widely touted as a sure thing for Arkansas Attorney General?

“Neal Lattimore, Mrs. Clinton's spokesman, said her visit to the recruiter had to be seen in the context of her dedication to public service. ‘I'm never surprised when Mrs. Clinton is doing something service oriented,’ he said. ‘She was just taking in all her options, saying “This is where I am in my life, this is what fits into my life right now.”’”

The Washington Post looked into the story at the time as well. No one could find any records or anything other than vague memories. "All I can remember is that she looked into it," Clinton’s late friend Diane Blair told the newspaper.

Another Arkansas friend, Ann Henry said she "vaguely" recalled the episode “in the context of frequent discussions they used to have about women's access to supposedly open career paths. Frequently, the equal opportunity that was promised was not a reality - and sometimes female faculty members went out to conduct ‘tests,’ Henry said. 'If Hillary Rodham had asked about the Marines as a way of testing whether the corps actually welcomed women, ‘it would have been consistent with what was going on with us at the time,’ Henry said. ’Is it possible she was testing?’ Blair asked. ‘I don't remember if she was seriously exploring a career, or was moved by curiosity, or patriotism or feminism. I wish I had kept notes.’”

It’s a story that I don't believe Clinton has repeated since 1994. Why not?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: anotherdemocrathero; demlies; hillary; hillaryclinton; hrc; marines; swiftboated; usmc
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1 posted on 03/25/2008 1:50:16 PM PDT by Buffalo Bob
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To: Buffalo Bob

Join the marines as what? Bridge partners? A fourth for mixed doubles? Certainly not service to the U.S.A.


2 posted on 03/25/2008 1:51:48 PM PDT by LottieDah (Democrats and liberals never fail to disappoint.)
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To: Buffalo Bob

Oh brother, was she in Vietnam, too?


3 posted on 03/25/2008 1:52:20 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Buffalo Bob

4 posted on 03/25/2008 1:52:42 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: kingattax

Boy that’s a face to scare the enemy!


5 posted on 03/25/2008 1:53:36 PM PDT by Buffalo Bob
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To: Buffalo Bob
Colonel Hunt will love this one.
6 posted on 03/25/2008 1:53:39 PM PDT by Melinda
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To: Buffalo Bob

It’s hilarious!


7 posted on 03/25/2008 1:54:00 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: LottieDah

This is from ABC NEWS????????

Welcome to 10 years ago you liberal idiots!!!!


8 posted on 03/25/2008 1:54:37 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot (" Typical White Person ")
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To: Buffalo Bob

LOL Yes, it does! LOL But why are those lies surfacing now, rather than years ago?


9 posted on 03/25/2008 1:54:57 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: Buffalo Bob

“shortly after the end of the Vietnam war, she looked into joining the Marines”....

HA! HA! HA!....yeah....Oh sure!


10 posted on 03/25/2008 1:55:33 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Buffalo Bob
This is really stupid.

If anybody else who had walked into a recruiting station, conversed with the recruiter, and then decided not to sign on the dotted line, were to brag about having "considered joining the [Air Force|Army|Marine Corps|Navy]", he'd be ridiculed as a wretched poseur.

Hildebeeste expects to be taken seriously.

Puke.

11 posted on 03/25/2008 1:55:40 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Buffalo Bob

From the “News” conference Tuesday 3/25/08 in Greensburg, PA

Hillary “brought up the human rights issue with Chinese leaders” several times?

She paused as she made this statement and one could get the sense of her trying to catch herself before telling another fib.

Can we get some background on this?

Who were these journalists? Do they know what a follow up question is?

Needs to be asked;

“With which Chinese leaders did you bring up the issue of human rights, Senator?”

“When did you bring up these issues of human rights with the Chinese leadership?”


12 posted on 03/25/2008 1:56:02 PM PDT by woodchukwood ("The only thing that saves us from the bureaucracy is its inefficiency." -E. McCarthy)
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To: Buffalo Bob

This is more BS. Recruiters don’t make judgements as to medical fitness. If she wanted to be a Marine (how does THAT pass the laugh test?), she surely would have at least gotten to the point where a physical exam was performed.


13 posted on 03/25/2008 1:56:06 PM PDT by ducdriver ("Impartiality is a pompous name for indifference, which is an elegant name for ignorance." GKC)
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To: Buffalo Bob

Hillary is the female Forrest Gump. Next, she’ll say she was almost chosen to be the first female astronaut. Pathetic.


14 posted on 03/25/2008 1:56:11 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Buffalo Bob

“Stolen Valor”


15 posted on 03/25/2008 1:56:28 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Buffalo Bob

Yeah...but they wouldn’t let her in stating she was too masculine......

Big Grin....

Sorry Jarheads....couldn’t resist....ex-Naval Air...


16 posted on 03/25/2008 1:56:47 PM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: Continental Soldier

I’ve wondered about that too. Perhaps the media was in love with the Hildabeast before, but they’re more in love with Obama now?


17 posted on 03/25/2008 1:56:50 PM PDT by Buffalo Bob
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To: kingattax

I love photo shop!.....Jarhead Hillary becomes Jarass!


18 posted on 03/25/2008 1:57:11 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Buffalo Bob
"But maybe the dogs would take you.'”


19 posted on 03/25/2008 1:58:04 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: Buffalo Bob

Another load of bullcrap. The Marines would not have turned her down because she was woman and in particular would not have turned down a Lawyer.

I enlisted in 1969 and my wife in 1970. The Marines had quite a few enlisted women and women officers. I and my wife served with more than a few.

Maybe they wouldn’t take her because she has “congenital liar” written across her forehead. Then again, this is obviously one more plain lie by the filthy bitch that she thought she would get a pass on.


20 posted on 03/25/2008 1:58:41 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Buffalo Bob

Didn’t “Fantasy Land” Clinton also say she once spoke with Joe DiMaggio at an airport? That was during the week of his death.


21 posted on 03/25/2008 1:58:43 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: Buffalo Bob

And the chickens have come home to roost!


22 posted on 03/25/2008 1:58:50 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Not liking my choices in this election!)
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To: Buffalo Bob

“’If Hillary Rodham had asked about the Marines as a way of testing whether the corps actually welcomed women, ‘it would have been consistent with what was going on with us at the time,’ Henry said. ’Is it possible she was testing?’ Blair asked.”

Oh, Paleeeze!

The Marines, along with the Army and Navy were at my University in 1966 recruiting. I almost joined the Marines with no problems at all.

The only problems were mom and dad who blew their corks.

And yes, I listened to them. They were paying the bills.


23 posted on 03/25/2008 1:59:22 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Buffalo Bob
"Finally said to me, he said, 'You're too old. You can't see. And you're a woman.…But maybe the dogs would take you.'”

If it's any consolation to Mrs. Clinton, she did make it into the Army as part of a cadence call about 10 years ago.

24 posted on 03/25/2008 1:59:39 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: MtnClimber

And the chickens have come home to roost!

To quote one Reverend Wright!......


25 posted on 03/25/2008 2:00:18 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: All
Hillary is another Leonard Zelig. She becomes whoever she is near.

Leonard Zelig: "I worked with Freud in Vienna. We broke over the concept of penis envy. Freud felt that it should be limited to women."

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086637/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zelig

26 posted on 03/25/2008 2:00:50 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: kingattax

Clearly, the mere sight of her in uniform would be illegal under the Geneva Convention... a war crime!


27 posted on 03/25/2008 2:00:59 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: RJS1950
Was there some sort of recruitment test prior to ASVAB?

Maybe the real problem is that "The Smartest Woman in the World" isn't quite so brilliant after all ...

28 posted on 03/25/2008 2:01:09 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Buffalo Bob; Slings and Arrows; MeekOneGOP
Bump
(For a good laugh)
29 posted on 03/25/2008 2:02:21 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Buffalo Bob

OK, I get it now: this is that alternate universe where Richard Simmons is a SEAL.


30 posted on 03/25/2008 2:02:26 PM PDT by tumblindice (Rodham, you grab-asstic piece of amphibian ....)
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To: Buffalo Bob
"The Marine recruiter looked at her, she recalled, and asked how old she was. Twenty-seven, she said.

> “He looked at me, and in those days that was before I learned how to wear contact lenses," Clinton said. "I had these really thick glasses on.

Just reading that you know she's either an idiot or a liar.

31 posted on 03/25/2008 2:03:40 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: kittymyrib

“Next, she’ll say she was almost chosen to be the first female astronaut.”

Since when was her broom rocket powered?


32 posted on 03/25/2008 2:04:25 PM PDT by dalereed (both)
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To: Retired Greyhound

of course..it’s seared, SEARED into her memory..


33 posted on 03/25/2008 2:04:32 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (GET A GUN....When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away..)
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To: kittymyrib
Next, she’ll say she was almost chosen to be the first female astronaut.

This is what Hillary Gump had to say about that:

So I wrote to NASA and said, ‘How do I sign up to be an astronaut?’ And they wrote back very politely and said, ‘We don’t take girls.’”

34 posted on 03/25/2008 2:05:51 PM PDT by noexcuses
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To: kittymyrib
Next, she’ll say she was almost chosen to be the first female astronaut.

Well, she is a decendant of Sir Edmund Hillary.

35 posted on 03/25/2008 2:06:49 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Buffalo Bob

Actually, she misspoke, on purpose. But I’ve got the word. She WAS secretly signed by the Marines for their secret forces. She learn to use the M-11.5 mini-nuclear sniper rocket launcher. Behind her back. Standing on her head. In training, she was able to hit a dime at 10 miles with her eyes closed. Then she joined the new chutelesstroopers who survive by having hugh, muscular legs that allow them to survive hitting the ground at over 100 mi/h. Their internal organs were protected by eating large amount of bran flakes for several days. She flew the new hypersonic mosquito scramjet around the world twice in one day. I can’t go on. I have revealed too much already.


36 posted on 03/25/2008 2:08:24 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: kingattax

Pull down those night vision goggles, please!


37 posted on 03/25/2008 2:10:00 PM PDT by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: Buffalo Bob

Wow. This is kind of fun to watch. I guess next up will be a story by NBC on the mysterious deaths of Vince Foster and Jerry Parks.


38 posted on 03/25/2008 2:10:01 PM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: Right Wing Assault

39 posted on 03/25/2008 2:10:44 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: kittymyrib

“Hillary is the female Forrest Gump.”

Stupid is as stupid does.


40 posted on 03/25/2008 2:11:08 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Buffalo Bob
Clinton continued, “I said, ‘This is not a very encouraging conversation, so maybe I'll look for another way to serve my country.’”

Sounds as true as a hollywood sit-com hack can write.

41 posted on 03/25/2008 2:11:31 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Buffalo Bob
The Clintons legacy will certainly go down in history as a pair of fools.....

I spoke with a USMC Gunny who was active duty in the White House during the Clinton years.....anyone in uniform had to go into another room,if possible when the Mrs was coming....she did not want to see anyone in uniform because she hated the military.....

42 posted on 03/25/2008 2:12:06 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: kingattax

Great photo shop...I sent that to my USMC sons....


43 posted on 03/25/2008 2:12:43 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: kingattax

Just a thought: You ought to see if you can photoshop one like the imfamous “Marlboro Man”. THAT would be a scream!


44 posted on 03/25/2008 2:15:01 PM PDT by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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I'm listening to the pundits explain how she can “misspoke”...LMAO.....she has misspoke 4 separate times same story..over the last four months.....now she comes clean after she's exposed......they make it out as it was said only once....CBS and Sinbad the comic along with the video. shows her strolling along with the evil grin and Chelsea in tow meeting an 8 yr old with flowers on the tarmac..........a little different from ducking sniper fire and running.
Sir Hilda can't get her name straight with the lie.....guess she misspoke then too
45 posted on 03/25/2008 2:15:08 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Retired Greyhound

> Oh brother, was she in Vietnam, too?

At Ia Drang with Col Moore and the 7th Cavalry. The first female soldier to be awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. And the first female combat veteran of Vietnam. As a Navy SEAL...

...what??? don’t believe me? It’s true, it’s TRUE I tell ya!

And when she was discharged she invented the World Wide Web, to make AlGore’s invention of The Internet usable to average people like us...

...sure thing! I heard it from a man who knows a fellow who says it’s true!

But before that she was a member of the US Gymnastics team in Los Angeles 1984, where she won Gold in that flip-floppy event — you know the one...

...Honest Injun! Sure I wasn’t there but I swear I have an alibi.

And right after that she won the 3000 meter sprint against Zola Bud, and got even with her for tripping up Mary Decker. That act alone caused a major political shift in South Africa, bringing Freedom to the oppressed and an end to Aparteid...

...Cross-my-heart-hope-to-die poke-a-needle-in-my-eye-if-I-tell-a-lie!

But if you think *that* is amazing, they tell me that Superman wears Chuck Norris pyjamas, but Chuck Norris wears Hillary pyjamas! And he even checks his closet before going to bed to see if Hillary is in there! It’s true I tell ya!

It’s all true!


46 posted on 03/25/2008 2:15:16 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghill mi do dhuine. Fg am bealach.)
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To: Buffalo Bob

I would believe this if she had said she tried to enlist in the KGB or the PAVN...which she probably really did do!


47 posted on 03/25/2008 2:16:50 PM PDT by Dr.Syn
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To: Buffalo Bob

Hillary didn’t lie - she “misspoke.”


48 posted on 03/25/2008 2:18:13 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Buffalo Bob
The Clinton's and most other politicians talk about their public service as if it was charity work. The truth is they benefited from that service a hell of a lot more than the public did. Bill and Hillary call it public service but it should be called public raping or public screwing.
49 posted on 03/25/2008 2:18:56 PM PDT by peeps36 (OUTLAWED WORDS--INSURGENT,GLOBAL WARMING,UNDOCUMENTED WORKER,PALESTINIAN,TERMINATED PREGNANCY)
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To: Buffalo Bob

And there is the whopper Hillary told about Chelsea jogging around the Twin Towers on 9-11-01. As the towers fell, Chelsea stopped at a nearby pay phone to call Senator Mommy and complain that Bush’s tax cuts caused the Towers’ collapse.

[Clinton told that one in an interview shortly after the 9-11 attacks. Chelsea told a different story about the same time — she (Chelsea) was at a friend’s apartment some 10 miles away and watched the 9-11 atrocities on television that day.]


50 posted on 03/25/2008 2:20:02 PM PDT by TomGuy
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