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Beginning of the End -- For The United Auto Workers???

Posted on 03/25/2008 2:39:12 PM PDT by rob777

Thanks to Dr. Hodges for sending me this video. If, in fact, this report is accurate in stating that the United Auto Workers has blocked similar plants from being built in the United States than I think it would be hard to argue against the proposition that unions like the UAW have done more than their share to destroy the industrial base of the United States.

UAW membership peaked in the 1970s at about 1.5 million members. UAW membership today is just under 600,000 -- and dropping.

As we ancient Romans like to say: "Res Ipsa Loquitur” (“The fact speaks for itself").

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This link is for a 3-minute video put together by the Detroit News about Ford's most efficient plant, which is in Brazil. The report ends by noting that Ford would like to build such a facility in the United States, but the UAW won't allow it.

http://info.detnews.com/video/index.cfm?id=1189


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: automakers; uaw; unions
This is from a private e-mail I recieved. So much for the notion that the "evil" corporations are "shipping our jobs overseas".
1 posted on 03/25/2008 2:39:13 PM PDT by rob777
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To: rob777

Sounds like the beginning of the end was in 1970. This is the end of the end.


2 posted on 03/25/2008 2:43:15 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

The unions greed is what took them down ...


3 posted on 03/25/2008 2:43:55 PM PDT by clamper1797 (It would be insane to vote for Hussein)
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To: rob777

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4 posted on 03/25/2008 2:45:56 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy.)
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To: rob777

If you are going to build a heavy industrial facility, you are going to build it where they want you.

You aren’t going to build it where they do everything they can to make operating it impossible. Life is too short.


5 posted on 03/25/2008 2:48:54 PM PDT by marron
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To: rob777
As long as the Big Three are tied to the unions, they will continue to falter and will fall behind foreign companies, even those that assemble their cars in the United States.

The Unions work to maintain control and to prevent Ford from reducing head count through increasing efficiency. However, the auto companies must continuously work to increase efficiency in order to remain competitive.

All things being equal, I'd rather buy and American made car from an American company. However, I'm not going to more for a less reliable product just to protect Union jobs and subsidize the standard of living of others at my expense.

The most recent car I purchased is assembled in the US, but it isn't made by one of the big three, because they simply were not competitive in price and reliability.

6 posted on 03/25/2008 2:50:40 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: rob777
Yep, today I decide I will NEVER buy another Ford/UAW vehicle.... Poor quality all around, today cost me $540 to get an inspection sticker & lub.... SUM
7 posted on 03/25/2008 2:54:48 PM PDT by geo40xyz ((McCain, Obama or Hillarybeast possibility of 4 Supreme Court Justices, Gore @UN. The WINNER is?))
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To: rob777
UAW membership today is just under 600,000 -- and dropping.

And many of those members get paid without doing any work.

8 posted on 03/25/2008 3:01:23 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: Brilliant

For anybody that read IACOCCA, this is not new news.


9 posted on 03/25/2008 3:18:28 PM PDT by RobRoy (I'm confused. I mean, I THINK I am, but I'm not sure. But I could be wrong about that.)
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To: rob777
I last visited southeastern Michigan and the Flint area about 10 years ago. What a dump.

Slightly off topic, but can anyone name a prosperous city or state that is staffed top to bottom by democrats?

10 posted on 03/25/2008 3:19:17 PM PDT by Jacquerie (McCain will offer battle to Islam - The Obamabeast will offer our heads.)
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To: atomicpossum
The union is a victim of it's own success. It succeeded in feather bedding and having onerous rules, which were fine when it was only the big three. They did not believe things would change, (sounds like the government). To stubborn to change. Would rather get 100% of nothing, than compromise.
11 posted on 03/25/2008 3:20:15 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: Jacquerie

Great question!
Chicago has done OK, but the crooks and fools on the county board and the foolish crook of a Gov are doing their best to pull it down.


12 posted on 03/25/2008 3:35:35 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: rob777
I cannot not remember the number of times I have read that “beginning of the end line”, actually it will not be long until all auto's are made overseas and with a little assembly here. Already happened to farm tractor production.
13 posted on 03/25/2008 3:37:34 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: atomicpossum

a good percentage of UAW aren’t auto workers anymore

they have organized a lot of state and muny workers (non competitive jobs)

so the actual numbers of AUTO workers is even less than the numbers shown


14 posted on 03/25/2008 3:38:40 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: org.whodat

actually a LOT of cars & trucks will be manufactured here in NON-UNION plants


15 posted on 03/25/2008 3:39:50 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Jacquerie

the sad part is if they could cordon off the state from Flint east & south, the rest would be OK
unfortunately there would be no one to pay taxes to support the bad part


16 posted on 03/25/2008 3:42:13 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: rob777

That last line is a killer all right.


17 posted on 03/25/2008 3:43:03 PM PDT by GulfBreeze (McCain is our nominee. Yeah... I guess.)
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To: nascarnation
actually a LOT of cars & trucks will be manufactured here in NON-UNION plants

No they will be assembled here as they are today from foreign made parts.

18 posted on 03/25/2008 3:51:07 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: nyconse
...Would rather get 100% of nothing, than compromise.

B/c their nests are nicely feathered, thank you.

19 posted on 03/25/2008 4:19:29 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: nascarnation
"actually a LOT of cars & trucks will be manufactured here in NON-UNION plants"


I think that you are right. Highly automated state of the art efficient plants require reliable power sources. The revolution in Digital Power and the convergence on electrical power that has begun will make the U.S. an attractive place for the next generation state of the art automated plants if we can just get past the problems with environmentalists and unions.
20 posted on 03/25/2008 4:19:37 PM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: rob777

GMC saw the need to modernize and reduce their work force many years ago, however, the UAW objected and the ONLY way THEY would allow the company to modernize was to guarantee that no one would lose their job because of automation. As a result, GMC STILL pays thousands of “workers” to come into a building and sit around watching TV or reading or playing cards all day.


21 posted on 03/25/2008 4:26:24 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: clamper1797
The unions greed is what took them down ...

I never have liked unions, and I come from a very PRO union family.

My Dad was an engineer for the Great Northern RR, which became the Burlington Northern, which became the BNSF.

In his day, the union served a very good purpose: protection of wages, protection of seniority, safe working conditions, etc.

From my perspective, it seemed to evolve into nothing more than a money issue as the years went on. My Dad made huge dinero at the time, all based on the number of engines he had to control, number of axles, weight, etc.

I entered the work force around 1974. The railroads went on strike, late 70's / early 80's....I mean trains stopped where ever they were. I asked my Dad, "How can you do that? People depend upon you to get the 'stuff' delivered....business's depend upon their 'stuff' getting shipped / delivered...?

That was the start of the anti-union movement in my family - me!

Fast forward to when President Reagan fired the air traffic controllers that went on strike.....my Dad went absolutey bezerk. Life long Democrat, so is Mom - just cuz Dad was.

I told my Dad, "RR was entirely correct, they had no right to jeopardize the safety of the public like that.., in fact, Dad, if I had been in charge, I would have fired your A$$ a couple of years ago for stopping your train in the middle of no-where....the Unions are out of contoll....we run this country - you do not!"

And....we did not talk about a year or so.....

Local talk radio several years ago - Unions were the subject: caller on-line was total pro-union.....

"What do you do in your union job?"....."Dig ditches"...."And what is your pay scale?"...."$28 an hour"...."don't you think that is a bit much for a non-tech job?"...."No, not at all. I'm union."...."We'll that is the whole point of today's program, are Union workers over paid and over compensated. $28 and hour to dig a ditch is a bit on the absurd side, don't you think?"...."No, I'm union!"...."But that is a no-skill job, right?"...."I'm union!"

Made me sick.

22 posted on 03/25/2008 4:52:05 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Islam: Bringing the world death and destruction for 1400 years!)
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To: org.whodat

Toyota and Honda are stamping metal, casting metal, and machining engine and transmission parts in the US and building complete powertrains. A high percentage of their total content is US made.


23 posted on 03/25/2008 4:56:23 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

Sure, I believe that, now where is that flying pig!


24 posted on 03/25/2008 6:43:52 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: nascarnation
"Toyota and Honda are stamping metal, casting metal, and machining engine and transmission parts in the US and building complete powertrains. A high percentage of their total content is US made."


This trend will continue. Highly automated state of the art plants use an integrated approach to manufacturing because it is more efficient. Given the U.S. advantage in power technologies, it makes sense that such plants will be located here. Of course, with distribution accounting for a greater percentage of overall cost, as manufacturing becomes more "lean", proximity to the large U.S. market is another factor. I think that the days of manufactuirng at one location and assembly at another are numbered.
25 posted on 03/25/2008 7:25:47 PM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: rob777

Just reported today (3/28)
Membership down to 464,000
The UAW has lost 237,000 members since the end of 2001

http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080328/AUTO01/803280438/1148


26 posted on 03/28/2008 10:53:33 AM PDT by nascarnation
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