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Loss of Hastert Seat is Proof Conservatives Are Prepared to Sit Out This Year
conservativehq.com ^ | 3-11-08 | Richard Viguerie

Posted on 03/26/2008 4:45:52 AM PDT by ovrtaxt

Mar 11 2008 Loss of Hastert Seat is Proof Conservatives Are Prepared to Sit Out This Year

…It’s a wakeup call for John McCain…

By Richard A. Viguerie

Republicans’ loss of the House seat held for two decades by former Speaker Dennis Hastert is proof that conservatives are prepared to sit out the 2008 elections.

Instead of contributing and volunteering, conservatives are closing their checkbooks and staying home.  Liberals and Democrats are enthusiastic to a degree not seen in decades, and grassroots conservatives are sitting on their hands.

This is a wakeup call for John McCain.  Since securing the nomination, he has done nothing significant to reach out to the conservatives who provide the vast majority of the volunteers for the Republican Party in every election.  Senator McCain, and all the candidates on the ballot with him, will pay the price in November.

The farther we go down this road, the longer it will take to repair the relationship between conservatives and the Republican Party. The damage that’s being done now will affect the party for years to come.

In the race for the Hastert seat, the Republican nominee, Jim Oberweis – the handpicked choice of the GOP Establishment – reportedly had difficulty getting enough volunteers. The Chicago Tribune reported that, when the primary runner-up, conservative State Senator Chris Lauzen, declined to endorse Oberweis, “his decision not to endorse Oberweis sidelined a potent grassroots organization that could have helped the Republican candidate.”

So strapped for volunteers was the Oberweis campaign that, according to the newspaper The Hill, Republicans turned to congressional interns in Washington to make calls for Oberweis. 

The defeat shows that the Republican Party’s current political strategy is fundamentally flawed. Rather than running on the issues, Republican leaders continue to try to buy elections by earmarking and pork-barreling and special-interest spending, by using taxpayers’ own money to try to buy elections.

Particularly instructive was a Hastert aide’s comment regarding the billions of taxpayers’ dollars he was willing to spend to save the seat of Representative Clay Shaw in 2000. “We knew” the control of the House “could come down to two seats,” the aide recalled, “and if that meant we had to spend $8 billion for Mr. Shaw, that's what we were going to do.”

The more earmarks, the angrier conservatives get. They see Republican leaders corruptly, immorally spending our children’s and grandchildren’s inheritance, trying to buy elections. And they’re fed up.

Pork barrel spending has turned to ashes in the mouths of the Republican leadership.



TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
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I know the Obama/Hillary war is in full swing right now, but it will eventually end. Then we will have to face the RINO reality once again.

This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.

1 posted on 03/26/2008 4:45:53 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
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To: ovrtaxt

If that headline is true then conservatives are retarded morons and deserve the hell Obama would unleash.


2 posted on 03/26/2008 4:47:26 AM PDT by Impy (The democrat party, "Ridin' Dirty" since puberty.)
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To: Impy

The way things are going on the Dem side, McCain may not need any help from conservatives!


3 posted on 03/26/2008 4:48:54 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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To: Impy

Yep, you get who you vote for and who you won’t vote against.


4 posted on 03/26/2008 4:49:38 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Rush was right when he used to say: "You NEVER win by losing.")
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To: ovrtaxt

Not necessarily. The Republican, Oberweiss, is a millionaire perennial candidate for governor, senator and who knows what else. The primary win was his first and only win, and only because he had a lot of his own money to spend. Unfortunately, he’s going to be the candidate again in November, so consider this seat gone for two years. Put a decent Republican in the race, and the seat goes back to the Pubbies.


5 posted on 03/26/2008 4:53:58 AM PDT by Krankor (kROGER)
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To: fightinJAG
Jim Oberweis – the handpicked choice of the GOP Establishment – reportedly had difficulty getting enough volunteers.

There is a major disconnect between the “GOP Establishment” and conservatives. I'm tired of being told we must support a Rhino candidate to save the party.

6 posted on 03/26/2008 4:54:07 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: ovrtaxt

I made this point on several different threads a while ago:

The same mentality and “principles” that lead one to conclude they could “never” vote for the Republican nominee-—who turned out to be John McCain-—perforce eventually will lead to people not voting for Republicans down ticket either.

So all the talk about how people will only sit out the presidential election, but vote for a R majority in Congress, ends up in a bunch of smoke.

Yet people argue that they are not responsible for ceding the country to the Rats by not voting for the Rs.


7 posted on 03/26/2008 4:54:22 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Rush was right when he used to say: "You NEVER win by losing.")
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To: ovrtaxt
Since securing the nomination, he has done nothing significant to reach out to the conservatives who provide the vast majority of the volunteers for the Republican Party in every election.

Why would a socialist like McCain want to support a conservative?

The defeat shows that the Republican Party’s current political strategy is fundamentally flawed.

The GOP's fundamental flaw has been increasing incrementally over several years by trying to expand the voter base by appeasing those who are not conservative. The results are incremental socialism in the Republican party to the point where the GOP is in the process of aligning itself with the socialist Democrats and candidates like McCain.
8 posted on 03/26/2008 4:54:43 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: ovrtaxt

Agree...I don not blame any conservative for staying home. It wasnt the base that funded the bridge to nowhere, support earmarks, passed McCain Fiengold, tried to pass McCain Kennedy, refused to seal the borders, establish the gang of 14 and the list goes on.

The RNC has had vols walk out of offices in DC...the base has quit sending money and the elected R’s still have the attitude they know best for us. The hell with them!

Maybe we need an Obama for two yrs..let the GOP regroup and start another fight!
McCain will ruin the conservative movement.


9 posted on 03/26/2008 4:57:11 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: Impy
If that headline is true then conservatives are retarded morons and deserve the hell Obama would unleash.

The GOP has been retarding itself by offering up increasingly socialist candidates. This time its McCain.
10 posted on 03/26/2008 4:57:25 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: ovrtaxt

“This election is like running in the Special Olympics.Even if McCain wins, we’re still retarded.”
You got that one perfectly correct!!Thanks for the laughs as well!


11 posted on 03/26/2008 5:01:19 AM PDT by USA-Forever
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To: ovrtaxt

It’s truly pathetic when most conservatives all over the U.S. already know about what’s probably coming the country’s way after mid-January ‘09 when the Democrats will probably be controlling everything important politically, but conservatives still can’t really do anything to stop it from happening, even this early from the November 4 election!


12 posted on 03/26/2008 5:03:18 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: ovrtaxt

Each day, the GOP and McCain make matters worse. We all heard months ago that Nancy Reagan was going to support McCain.

Big deal, she and her two kids were, and are not conservatives.

But...the stoopid GOP, and McCain think if he trots a 90 year old woman out to say she supports him.....well golleee, that makes McLame a real conservative.

The GOP must really believe conservatives just fell off the turnip truck. My disgust for this party grows daily. They are so weasely they should not be trusted with donations.


13 posted on 03/26/2008 5:06:26 AM PDT by indylindy
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To: Impy
If that headline is true then conservatives are retarded morons and deserve the hell Obama would unleash.

Wound + salt = Impy (WIMPY)

Comments like yours are so helpful! Man am I so glad you woke me up! I just wrote a $1,000 check to the McDole campaign. /sarcasm

14 posted on 03/26/2008 5:10:03 AM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Oberweis, the perennial, was not a great candidate, but he did run as a conservative. He also adopted a hard-line anti-illegal immigration policy. A different conservative could have won, but the seat was not lost because conservatives sat the race out.


15 posted on 03/26/2008 5:10:26 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Not a newbie, I just wanted a new screen name.)
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To: USA-Forever

I think I’ll make it my tagline.


16 posted on 03/26/2008 5:14:14 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we’re still retarded.)
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To: indylindy
The only good thing we Conservatives have going is the total insanity on the other side of the isle.Wait until the left and especially the main stream media comes full guns after McCain and all his weaknesses as a candidate! That willeven the election and by then all of Obamas weaknesses will have been "vetted" and swept under a hugh rug. I can't get too hopeful or giddy yet!We are early in the 1st quarter of this crucial game! The media is totally in bed with Obama and all the idiot Liberals!
17 posted on 03/26/2008 5:15:22 AM PDT by USA-Forever
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To: Impy
How much are people supposed to take? It seems like the party stacked the primary in favor of Oberweis. You cannot expect conservatives to support a candidate like that when their own candidate was not treated fairly. They watched a RINO like Hastert, as Speaker of the House, throw money around like it was confetti and march to the rescue of a corrupt RAT like William Jefferson. Do you really expect them to have taken another kick in the tuckus with a unbalanced primary in favor of Oberweis who would do more of the same and just smilingly show up to work for him and the party?

We talk all the time about how the RATS take the black vote for granted because they believe they have nowhere else to go. Well in a lot of places, the Republican establishment has done the same thing with conservatives. The difference is that the conservatives don't seem inclined to put up with the same garbage. I don't believe this would be happening if the party hadn't first done everything they could to defeat Lauzen.

18 posted on 03/26/2008 5:17:29 AM PDT by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: ovrtaxt
At this point, saying that conservatives have to vote for McCain abandons any leverage we may have to get a conservative VP candidate. Let's let McCain sweat, see who he picks and then decide. If it comes to that, letting the Democrats run wild for a couple of years may yet do less long-term harm to America than rewarding the Republican party for its apostasy.
19 posted on 03/26/2008 5:18:55 AM PDT by Grut
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To: USA-Forever

That’s right, they’re airing out their junk early. By November, we’ll all be used to black racism and desensitized.


20 posted on 03/26/2008 5:19:18 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we’re still retarded.)
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To: ovrtaxt

The winner works at Batavia. He would be considered a minor god in the community.


21 posted on 03/26/2008 5:23:23 AM PDT by syriacus (If BHO Jr. is elected, will he become a TWHP? (Typical White House Person))
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To: Impy
My understanding was that the guy the Rep party put up for the seat was a terrible candidate. Anyone from the area comment? However, I think the point of the article is somewhat valid. I will not vote for any RINO’s so if that is all that is on the ticket I am going hunting that week. Call me stupid if you like but RINO’s are doing as much damage as the Dems are in Congress - I will not support them. I also have cut off all contributions to the party. My funds are going to local goodguys and places like the American Legion.
22 posted on 03/26/2008 5:23:39 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: fightinJAG
Re: Voting for McCain ...


Let me get this right ...

The Republican Party has evolved into the Democrat "lite" Party.

McCain the "maverick" has been selected to lead Democrat "lite" Party.

The Democrat "lite" McCain is against free speech ... for illegal immigration ... believes the global warming scam ... admits he hasn't a clue about economics ... and has fought his "friend" GWB every step of the way.

A Democrat "lite" Party representative (GWB) has been in the White House for two terms.

The economy is tanking.

Fuel costs are skyrocketing.

Food costs are going out of sight.

And the Feds are printing funny money to buy off the electorate.


Now you think that conservatives should support McCain and his Republican "lite" Party?

Have I got that about right?

23 posted on 03/26/2008 5:24:40 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Recon Dad
There is a major disconnect between the “GOP Establishment” and conservatives. I'm tired of being told we must support a Rhino candidate to save the party.

Probably no more tired than people who may not be conservative enough for you are tired of a minority of the party who consider themselves the base, when they are not, trying to hold the party hostage.

Have you ever considered there may be some of us conservatives, who are not ultra enough conservative for you, that may well rebel down the road to your candidate because we are tired of the actions of the ultra conservatives in this election?

Make no mistake, I'm a conservative but am not pleased with the reaction of a spoiled few who continue to whine about McCain not being conservative enough.

And I'm sure there are a lot of others like me.

24 posted on 03/26/2008 5:24:52 AM PDT by billva
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To: ovrtaxt

Is there any reason we can’t unnominate these candidates. After all the people did not select them and we shouldn’t be forced to vote for them. There are many good people out there.


25 posted on 03/26/2008 5:29:37 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Impy
If that headline is true then conservatives are retarded morons and deserve the hell Obama would unleash.

...or rilly....!!!

last time a liberal democrat was in the White House,

conservatives regained control of congress,

control of the Senate,

passage of NAFTA, welfare reform,

return of the majority of state legislatures,

majority of governorships,

the joy of watching a "great" leader explain a semen stained dress while every liberal apologist looked like the hypocrites they are....

Meanwhile with Bush, we got..... tax cuts, conservative supreme court.....

hmmmmmmmmm, Kennedy education fiasco,

Medicare pharmacy boondoggle,

soldiers in the field prosecuted by liberals in uniform with authorization up the chain of command

spending like drunk sailors without cutting a single program

talked to like idiots for thinking that our border should be secure

told that illegal aliens are just doing the hard work that Americans aren't willing to do.

..like field work, construction, poultry processing, rape, murder, drunk driving, filling hospitals and not paying bills, overwhelming local schools, killing African Americans to control ghetto drug/prostitution/protection rackets....

so it's a wash for me.

McCain has stated that he is an "environmentalist", believes in global warming.

will not drill in ANWAR

thought that "tax cuts" for the rich was wrong

talks about "going to Washington" to "get things done".

wanted to be a democrap and voted like it.

Has more skeletons in the closet than John Wayne Gacy, due to the Keating Fiasco and who knows what else after "serving" in the senate forever...

so as far as a conservative "retarded moron".... I acknowledge the name and raise a one fingered salute in your direction.

26 posted on 03/26/2008 5:29:55 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: ovrtaxt

Jim Oberweis was a flawed candidate from the beginning who did not even have the support of many Republicans in this election.

If the GOP can get its act together, maybe they can win this seat back in the fall. They need a better candidate.


27 posted on 03/26/2008 5:30:00 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: billva

BS. What you say is pure nasty BS. McCain is barely a Republican. Twice he was going to defect. If you call that “conservative” enough, then you are not a conservative.

The GOP moderates and independents are not entitled to anyones vote, except those that wish to support McCain.


28 posted on 03/26/2008 5:31:48 AM PDT by indylindy
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To: billva
And I'm sure there are a lot of others like me.

Yes, they are called "Democrats".

29 posted on 03/26/2008 5:32:49 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we’re still retarded.)
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To: Dick Vomer
Meanwhile with Bush, we got..... tax cuts, conservative supreme court.....

A biggie, especially with Heller vs. D.C. being ruled on this month.

Imagine instead if Gore or Kerry had picked the replacements for O'Conner and Rehnquist. Tain't pretty.

30 posted on 03/26/2008 5:37:54 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: billva

The lesions of the last election are completely lost on you. You presume I won’t vote for McCain, but you would be wrong.
What I can’t stand is the crop of Congressmen that have spent this party into a minority status trying to be like democrats


31 posted on 03/26/2008 5:38:03 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: ovrtaxt

Yes, McCain is a disappointment, but he will not keep me from voting. I will go out and vote for anyone with an ‘R’ by their name just to vote against the ‘D’.

I’ll do anything and everything to insure ‘D’s heads explode. That’s my payoff - keeping ‘D’s out of office and enforcing the idea that ‘D’s are a perpetual nightmare for the USA.

Folks can stay home if they want, to prove a point...but that point isn’t very sharp and it doesn’t do a thing but ensure three new socialist Supreme Court justices in the next four years.


32 posted on 03/26/2008 5:38:12 AM PDT by whereasandsoforth (Stamp out liberals with the big boot of truth)
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To: Grut
"At this point, saying that conservatives have to vote for McCain abandons any leverage we may have to get a conservative VP candidate. Let's let McCain sweat, see who he picks and then decide."

Even if McLame could resurrect George Washington and run him as VP, how does that help the Republican party beyond making the liberal John McLame look good? VP's are just figure heads, their role in shaping government policy is very limited.

33 posted on 03/26/2008 5:39:29 AM PDT by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: ovrtaxt

Remember Gerald Ford, probably our most athletic President ever? The pressss went after his every single trip, stumble and stubbed toe and in months turned him into a stupid, clumsey klutz.
Well, McCain’s old. Watch out for every single “um”, “Uhh”, “duh” and every misspoken and mispronunced word. They’ll have him pronounced senile in a heartbeat.
Great job, you RINOS.


34 posted on 03/26/2008 5:41:41 AM PDT by Flintlock (that)
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To: ovrtaxt

The Dems & MSM out-snookered the Pubbies.

They got Dems on both tickets. So, it is a matter of which Dem — Clinton or Obama — on the Dem ticket faces the Dem on the GOP ticket.

Whatever happens, the Dems win.


35 posted on 03/26/2008 5:43:25 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Recon Dad

“I’m tired of being told we must support a Rhino candidate to save the party.”

You MUST support whoever the Republican nominee is to save the NATION!!!


36 posted on 03/26/2008 5:47:17 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: freekitty
"Is there any reason we can’t unnominate these candidates. After all the people did not select them and we shouldn’t be forced to vote for them. There are many good people out there."

We can write in the candidate of our choice in the general election and hope every one else is doing the same thing. But we had our chance when folks like Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo and Fred were running, and we chose to let ourselves down by voting for the dummy McLame. With McLame all we have is a geriatric "W" Bush, and perhaps even worse. Not long ago McLame was considering leaving the Republican party because he found it difficult to reconcile his liberal views with conservative ideology.

37 posted on 03/26/2008 5:47:40 AM PDT by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: ovrtaxt

38 posted on 03/26/2008 5:48:19 AM PDT by Gritty (McCain’s view is summed up by McCain-Feingold. He doesn’t want to hear from you-Mark Steyn)
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To: houstonman58
VP's are just figure heads, their role in shaping government policy is very limited.

Normally, yes. But McCain's old, in cancer remission and more likely to die in office than most, so the VP may well become President.

39 posted on 03/26/2008 5:49:40 AM PDT by Grut
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To: rrrod

Just because a candidate (McCain, in this case) has an R does not mean much.

The RNC has not represented the conservatives for years.

Look at the massive uprisings GWB caused, not once, but several times: Dubai, Miers, Amnesty round 1 (2006) that the House shelved, Amnesty round 2 (2007) that the Senate shelved. Amnesty round 3 (2007) that shut down the Senate switchboard before the Senate shelved it.

Those massive uprisings signals to a politician and political party who are out of touch with the will of the people.

The RNC continues to demonstrate that they prefer the centrists/moderates/leftists. They want globalism, amnesty, open borders, NAFTA, etc.

The problem with the continued Obama and Clinton battle is that it emboldens McCain to select a moderate VP and give the conservatives his middle finger -— again.


40 posted on 03/26/2008 5:51:23 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Gritty

My sentiments exactly. GOP political suicide.


41 posted on 03/26/2008 5:52:53 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (The Presidential election is a race to the bottom. Which Party will out stupid the other to lose ?)
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To: ovrtaxt

Two decades, huh; another poster boy for TERM LIMITS!


42 posted on 03/26/2008 5:55:23 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: Flintlock
Well, McCain’s old. Watch out for every single “um”, “Uhh”, “duh” and every misspoken and mispronunced word. They’ll have him pronounced senile in a heartbeat.

You mean like the ABC video below? And this one surfaced before McCain's resent verbal stumble in Iraq regarding al-Qaeda, Sunni and Shi'ite.

This is the best the GOP has to offer?

The video at the link below shows McCain as a tottering old guy who stammers and makes significant misstatements even in this short speech.

In politics, one misstatement or misstep can ruin a career. A Lazio encroachment. A Deaniac scream. An Allen macaca moment.

McCain made 2 slip-ups in this single video. He stumbles on the word dispirited and then replaces it with spirited. Then, he stumbles by calling himself a conservative liberal Republican and replaces it with conservative Republican.

Then, McCain ended this short speech by vowing to continue to infringe on and quell First Amendment rights, when he says that 527's should be outlawed.

This is who the GOP is sending to challenge Obama or Clinton??????

McCain a 'Proud Liberal'? (Video)

Watch this Must See video and then visualize this guy going up against Obama in a series of debates.

43 posted on 03/26/2008 5:56:36 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ovrtaxt
he has done nothing significant to reach out to the conservatives

I despise McCain, and I can see nothing he could do or say to make me vote for him.

Having said that, I have to admit that his demurrer yesterday regarding bailouts for Wall Street and "homeowners" was statesmanlike and I really appreciated it.

44 posted on 03/26/2008 5:59:19 AM PDT by jammer
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To: rrrod
McCain will ruin the conservative movement.

I have to disagree, GWB has put the latest round of nails in the coffin.

45 posted on 03/26/2008 6:00:42 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: rrrod
McCain will ruin the conservative movement.

That would be true if Bush hadn't already done so. It gives me no pleasure to say, "I told you so" in 2001 on FR (to a great hue and cry).

46 posted on 03/26/2008 6:02:36 AM PDT by jammer
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To: Recon Dad

Jim O. was not the GOP establishment guy.

Jim O. is conservative, very anti amnesty and someone the GOP establishment in IL hates.


47 posted on 03/26/2008 6:03:58 AM PDT by JRochelle (Obama & Bob the Builder, "Yes we can!")
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To: Flintlock

I saw him try to answer a monetary policy question from Ron Paul in one of the debates. Someone on Youtube did a Ms. South Carolina mashup with that clip. It was sad.


48 posted on 03/26/2008 6:04:26 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we’re still retarded.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Nonsense.


49 posted on 03/26/2008 6:07:12 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: ovrtaxt

The GOP reaps what it sows. If your candidate is a liberal don’t complain when conservatives won’t vote for him.


50 posted on 03/26/2008 6:08:42 AM PDT by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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