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Apple settles the amazing multicolor lawsuit
C|Net ^ | Mar 26th 2008 | C|Net

Posted on 03/26/2008 12:38:28 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick

The heated debate over whether Apple is tricking you into believing you can see millions of colors on your Mac has come to a quiet conclusion.

The Chicago Tribune noted last week (spotted by AppleInsider) that Apple has settled a lawsuit brought by two professional photographers claiming that the company falsely advertised the capabilities of their MacBook Pros as being able to display "millions of colors."

The plaintiffs claimed that Apple could achieve those heights only through "dithering."

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How many colors can you see? Thousands? Millions?

(Credit: Apple)

There's an option in the Displays screen, under System Preferences in Mac OS X, in which you can set the Colors option to "millions." The thing is, the MacBook Pro uses a 6-bit display, and Apple can get to that "millions" number only by using a technique called dithering, which basically blends pixels together to create a shading effect.

The plaintiffs claimed that this use of dithering affected their ability to edit their photos and constituted false advertising, since a 6-bit display is capable only of rendering 262,144 colors without resorting to dithering, not "millions."

Few others seem to care, however; The Tribune said the plaintiffs' lawyer declined to take the case to the limits "because it was difficult to find other people who were wronged because they had bought Macs solely based on the 'millions of colors' claim." Terms of the settlement were not disclosed.

A representative at the San Diego County Superior Court said the case was actually dismissed last year, and so it's not clear why this took so long to come to light. But the outcome is not all that surprising, and I'm left wondering if it took "millions of dollars" for this case to disappear.

Apple has not removed the "millions" option from the display preferences for Mac OS X Leopard.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: apple; lcd; mac; macbook

1 posted on 03/26/2008 12:38:29 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick
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To: CarrotAndStick

Apple quietly settles MacBook 6-bit LCD screen lawsuit

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It looks like that would-be class action lawsuit over the quality of MacBook and Macbook Pro screens has fizzled out to nothing, as the plaintiffs have quietly settled. Although it's technically true that the 6-bit screens can't actually display millions of colors at the same time, apparently the two photographers who filed the suit had a difficult time finding other people who had bought MacBooks based on the advertised color depth of the display -- and from what we're told, you just can't have a "class action" without a "class." Even still, we hope someone at Apple was paying attention to how much interest the case generated at the outset -- although MacBook Pro screens generally look fine to us, we've seen some truly awful MacBook screens.

 

 

http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/26/apple-quietly-settles-macbook-6-bit-lcd-screen-lawsuit/

 

 

2 posted on 03/26/2008 12:41:08 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: ShadowAce

ping...


3 posted on 03/26/2008 12:42:27 PM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: CarrotAndStick

I don’t get how 6 bits translates to 200k+ colors. 8 bit color is only 256 colors.


4 posted on 03/26/2008 12:44:35 PM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

I thought it was only 3 colors actually!


5 posted on 03/26/2008 12:45:21 PM PDT by OSHA (<---Typical white person.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Why in the world would they only use 6-bit color?


6 posted on 03/26/2008 12:45:58 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Benedict Arnold was against the Terrorist Surveillance Program)
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To: domenad

Six bits for red, six bits for green, six bits for blue.

64*64*64

262,144


7 posted on 03/26/2008 12:46:24 PM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Save money?


8 posted on 03/26/2008 12:46:45 PM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

So the guy that mixes paint at Lowes is a ditherer?


9 posted on 03/26/2008 12:47:49 PM PDT by JZelle
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To: domenad

It’s six bits per color plane, 18 bits total for three planes (red, green, blue), 2 ^ 18 = 262144


10 posted on 03/26/2008 12:47:51 PM PDT by HAL9000 ("If someone who has access to the press says something over and over again, people believe it"- B.C.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Why in the world would they only use 6-bit color?

It was the doing of many display makers. The panels themselves have good contrast ratios, and fast response times - but each RBG sub-pixel only has 2^6 levels of brightness.

No, I'm not sure why, either. I just remember that when this first hit, some laptops had 8 bit screens, and some had 6-bit screens.

11 posted on 03/26/2008 12:49:31 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Why in the world would they only use 6-bit color?

25% less power consumption, longer battery life.

12 posted on 03/26/2008 12:51:52 PM PDT by HAL9000 ("If someone who has access to the press says something over and over again, people believe it"- B.C.)
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To: domenad

8-bit color is for the total indexed color spectrum per pixel for a video card. Since we are talking about screens, 6 bit is per channel, 6 bits for red, 6 for green, and 6 for blue.

In 8-bit indexed color, the color palate for video cards may be changed to a different set of colors depending on the application. The screen can obviously display many more than 256 colors, but the video card would limit it to 256 at a time.


13 posted on 03/26/2008 12:52:08 PM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: CarrotAndStick

What a waste. It’s long established that men see only nine colors: red, orange, green, blue, yellow, purple, brown, black, and white.


14 posted on 03/26/2008 12:52:20 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: HAL9000

How does the allocated bits per colour pixel affect the battery life? It’s the backlighting of the LCD that consumes a majority of the power. Are you referring to the graphics processor?


15 posted on 03/26/2008 12:54:09 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: pabianice
What a waste. It’s long established that men see only nine colors: red, orange, green, blue, yellow, purple, brown, black, and white.

I only see three.

Blonde, brunette and redhead.

16 posted on 03/26/2008 12:55:50 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: HAL9000

Yeah, okay, so why are they calling it “6 bit” color instead of going with the naming convention that’s been around since before the advent of VGA and calling it “18 bit” color, which is what it really is??

I’d think the boys in Marketing would like to tout as many bits as they can.


17 posted on 03/26/2008 12:56:20 PM PDT by HKMk23 (When everyone's special; nobody will be.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

The funny thing is, I don’t think LCD monitors have a very wide color gamut in the first place. They tend to stop far short of the level of greens your eyes are capable of seeing. A color gamut shows for all consumer-level displays, it can only represent 30% to 40% of the colors your eye can see.


18 posted on 03/26/2008 12:57:50 PM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: N. Theknow

I suffer from the same issue. Although, I wouldn’t really use the term suffer. That is, unless I’m dating one of them. Then suffering comes into play sometimes.


19 posted on 03/26/2008 12:58:46 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Apple shouldn’t be lying about the product’s capabilities, but any competent “professional” who really needs 8-bit color is going to read the specs before he buys. So this case still seems a bit frivolous.


20 posted on 03/26/2008 12:59:48 PM PDT by ROP_RIP
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
I suffer from the same issue. Although, I wouldn’t really use the term suffer. That is, unless I’m dating one of them. Then suffering comes into play sometimes.

My wife also only sees in three colors.

Green, Gold and Chocolate.

21 posted on 03/26/2008 1:01:30 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: dan1123

Ahh, I thought they meant six bits per pixel, not per color plane. Makes sense. THanks to you and the others who answered me.


22 posted on 03/26/2008 1:02:03 PM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: dan1123

LCD colour monitor gamut is a function of the backlighting that it is equipped with. Newer laptops use LEDs, whose emitted spectrum is better suited to display a wider range of colours than the ones equipped with a fluorescent tube-based backlighting.


23 posted on 03/26/2008 1:04:12 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: HAL9000

Isn’t it red, blue and yellow?


24 posted on 03/26/2008 1:05:04 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: CarrotAndStick
I was referring to the screen buffer memory circuits - but I may have made a couple of incorrect assumptions.

The MacBooks screen buffer may use shared memory in the main RAM rather than separate memory. And the screen buffer probably stores the data as 24 or 32 bits per pixel anyway, and the screen circuitry just ignores the two least-significant-bits per sub-pixel. Six-bit subpixels cannot be packed in memory very efficiently, so the screen buffer might as well use a full byte for each subpixel, especially since memory is so cheap nowadays.

25 posted on 03/26/2008 1:07:52 PM PDT by HAL9000 ("If someone who has access to the press says something over and over again, people believe it"- B.C.)
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To: HAL9000

Ahh, thanks!


26 posted on 03/26/2008 1:10:05 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: N. Theknow
What a waste. It’s long established that men see only nine colors: red, orange, green, blue, yellow, purple, brown, black, and white.

I only see three.

Blonde, brunette and redhead.

For the life of me, that sounds like something that would come out of Dean Martin's mouth in a roast. Good show, my friend, good show.

27 posted on 03/26/2008 1:11:14 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: N. Theknow
I only see three.
Blonde, brunette and redhead.

You're not hitting the right clubs ...

28 posted on 03/26/2008 1:14:33 PM PDT by vollmond (Sorry, Mom, the mob has spoken!)
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To: SeaHawkFan
Isn’t it red, blue and yellow?

Only in a subtractive color palette--and even then, it is more common to use magenta instead of red, and cyan instead of blue.

29 posted on 03/26/2008 1:15:43 PM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: CarrotAndStick

I wonder how many angels dancing on the head of a pin an Apple could display.


30 posted on 03/26/2008 1:17:53 PM PDT by Hazwaste (Vote! Vote for the conservative local, state, and national candidates of your choice, but VOTE!)
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To: dan1123

Thanks for the info.


31 posted on 03/26/2008 1:17:58 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: CarrotAndStick

Can’t we all just move on past this “color” thing?.........


32 posted on 03/26/2008 1:18:14 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: N. Theknow
Blonde, brunette and redhead.

And they only see one color: green....

33 posted on 03/26/2008 1:20:01 PM PDT by thulldud (Insanity: Electing John McCain again and expecting a different result.)
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To: thulldud
And they only see one color: green....

...and gold....and chocolate.

34 posted on 03/26/2008 1:23:54 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: SeaHawkFan
Isn’t it red, blue and yellow?

Red, green, blue.

35 posted on 03/26/2008 1:47:44 PM PDT by rond
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To: SeaHawkFan
Isn’t it red, blue and yellow?

Red, blue, and yellow when you're mixing paint. Magenta, cyan, and yellow, when you're running a printing press. Red, blue, green, when you're checking out a computer screen. Somehow, it all works out.
36 posted on 03/26/2008 1:50:45 PM PDT by Mariebl
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To: ROP_RIP
So this case still seems a bit frivolous.

Seems that way to me too!
37 posted on 03/26/2008 1:56:42 PM PDT by TexanByBirth (Now that the Texas primary is over, would all yall from out-of-state please go away!)
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To: CarrotAndStick
Where's MY piece of the (Apple) pie?


38 posted on 03/26/2008 2:25:28 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: domenad

6 bits per color channel (6 bits for red, 6 bits for green, and 6 bits for blue). In the digital photography world color depth is almost always referred to in this manner. It can get a bit confusing for anyone used to the idea that an 8-bit display can only show 256 colors.


39 posted on 03/26/2008 2:31:58 PM PDT by Thoramir
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To: Thoramir

What about the video cards that have luminance and chrominance rather than RGB? The color looked washed out compared to true 24-bit color, although they used to advertise them as 24-bit color. Dang, I forget — I want to say it was 8 bits of luminance and no more than 8 bits of chrominance.


40 posted on 03/26/2008 3:25:51 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: JZelle
So the guy that mixes paint at Lowes is a ditherer?

<Seinfeld mode>

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

</Seinfeld mode>

41 posted on 03/26/2008 3:35:16 PM PDT by Bob
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