Skip to comments.Police: Man Dies After SEPTA Concourse Confrontation (Beaten to death at Phili Subway Station)
Posted on 03/26/2008 4:38:09 PM PDT by Main Street
The incident occurred at about 2:35 p.m. before the turnstiles on the Market-Frankford Line concourse at 13th and Market streets, police said.
One adult male was taken to Jefferson University Hospital but was later pronounced dead.
Police said homicide investigators have been summoned to the scene.
A transit police sergeant was on patrol on the eastbound platform at the time of the incident.
"While on patrol, he notices across the way, on the westbound concourse, a white male adult, about 30-years-old, and he's being confronted by four, young black males. A disturbance is obvious to him. He goes to investigate," said Capt. Steven Harold of the transit police agency.
Police said the man, who worked at a nearby Starbucks, appeared to be a in a defensive mode, as if threatened by the teens.
As the transit police sergeant approached, he radioed in that a fight was possibly in progress. The juvenile males fled down the concourse, while the man was in some type of physical distress.
SEPTA police said they took one male into custody on the concourse, near 11th Street, in connection with the case.
"The man goes into what appears to be cardiac arrest. He's unable to give any information as to what actually was transpiring," Harold said.
The man was rushed to the hospital but later pronounced dead.
Authorities said they are now trying to determine the extent of the physical altercation.
"The sergeant's view was observing some type of disturbance that the male was having with these four youth," Harold said.
Police did not release a description of any other juveniles possibly involved in the incident.
Commuters were being turned away from the westbound entrance but service on the Market-Frankford Line was not disrupted.
Philadelphia and SEPTA police have launched a joint investigation into the incident.
It does not matter what the colors of the skin, 4 against 1 is a gang killing.
Four against one...
EPTA police said they took one male into custody
that’s enough to get the rest
Looks like a hate crime to me
Oh, come on. That never happens.
It's never one-on-one, unless the thug outweighs you by at least 25 pounds or is 20 years younger.
The wording in the police statement is agonizingly awkward. There is much not being said here.
I’m shocked at the amount of detail in the story.
30-year-old going into cardiac arrest? Something stinks here.
It’s still murder.
Four against one is what counts as courage in gangs.
Sounds to me like a drug deal, spiking some smack, and things go wrong for everyone at that point.
Just another day in “The City of Brotherly Love”
True, but my point was that I’m skeptical that that’s all that happened. Can it happen? Sure, but it’s extremely unlikely, IMHO, unless the guy was really overweight or something.
I’m 38, weigh 25-30 pounds more than I should, but I still bike 150 miles for charity every year. It seems to me that it would take something extraordinary to send a 30-year-old into arrest...unless it was externally inflicted (hint).
The white man should definitely be charged with a hate crime, instigating the whole affair by using the N-word, having a miniature noose in his pocket, wearing a t-shirt with a confederate flag on it, and of course the most serious offense of all, being white.
No hate crime there?
Smokin some crack or spiking some meth can make anyones heart go poof.
Charge them with denying the white guy his civil rights.
No kidding. You'd think it was some sort of difference of opinion that upset the deceased from the writing.
This article states the man was beaten to death by the “youths”:
Man dead after beating on Center City SEPTA platform
A 36-year-old man died after being severely beaten by a gang of youths inside the SEPTA concourse near City Hall this afternoon, police said.
One youth was taken into custody and police were still looking for three juveniles, possibly four, who fled the scene.
The attack happened at 13th and Market Streets on the concourse of a busy Septa stop about 2:45 p.m., said Officer Jillian Russell of the Public Affairs Unit.
SEPTA spokeswoman Sylvana Hoyos said a SEPTA police sergeant initially responded and administered CPR to the victim until medics arrived......
May he rest in peace
This is the number one reason why I tell recruiters that under no circumstances will I accept a job within the city limits.
He was probably thinking of a noose.
“...unless it was externally inflicted (hint).”
Congenital Heart Disease?
Congestive Heart Failure?
Coronary Artery Disease?
High Blood Pressure (Hypertension)?
Mitral valve prolapse?
Another news report stated that the victim was beaten, which if severe enough can cause the heart to stop working, especially if he had a heart defect.
Guess he wasn’t a typical white person; he didn’t move to the other side of the concourse.
I just got back from a business trip to Philadelphia. The area I was in wasn’t all that far from the scene of this murder, but it seemed fairly nice. The rest of Philadelphia, on the other hand, looked like an unflushed toilet.
“The rest of Philadelphia, on the other hand, looked like an unflushed toilet.”
The city of brotherly love?
Phila. west of Broad Street and Montgomery/Diamond (west of Temple Un, my old school), looked like an “unflushed toilet” in 1980 when I was last there.
Glad to know that the Democrats have done so much to improve it in the past 28 years (Mayor Street, Rendell, etc).
Time to flush the whole place and start over again.
Bernard Goetz (sp)? That was the guy who shot his attackers in a NY subway and got sued. When are we going to learn?
I used to ride the El when I worked in Philly. The most unsafe time to ride was when the thugs, er students, got out of school. Freaking animals.
Thats about it.
Please, keep moving. Nothing else to see.
I was about two blocks away at a trade show when this happened.
I’d been thinking about bringing a handgun with me on this trip. PA recognizes my state’s permit, but I decided it wasn’t worth the hassle to check it on the airplane, etc. I think this is the last time I’ll make that decision.
Can’t say as I blame you.
I’ve been to Philadelphia a few times on business. A very scary city. One time I walked over to the Liberty Bell at around 1:00 PM and I was followed by a group of five or six young black guys. When I turned left, they turned left; when I turned right, they turned right. The Liberty Bell was pretty much deserted (stupid me, I thought there’d be some City employee there to give a brief, bored lesson on the thing), so, instead of paying it my respects, I passed it up, picked up my pace, and headed back towards my hotel, blending in with some other pedestrians. I looked back at the gang and they had stopped, but they were watching me as I continued on my way. Like I say, a very scary city.
Police: Man Dies After SEPTA Concourse Confrontation
Authorities Trying To Determine Extent Of Physical Altercation
Ummmmm....he’s dead. I’d say the altercation was extensive.
I went to Temple in the late sixties, and used to drive to the train station and then walk from the N. Broad station. Can you imagine doing that now? We used walk all over the city, day or night, go to a movie, the orchestra, dinner, a show, and take the train home. Someone needs to take a look at what has changed.
The City of Philadelphia may not recognize your permit even if PA does. Democrats don’t have to follow any rules.
50 years of mainly Democrats.
Is this the “socialization” homeschoolers are missing?
Don’t worry, whatever they did to you had you been caught would’ve only made the news if you turned up dead, simple robbery and assault of unsuspecting whites is probably just the norm.
Only if the white guy was gay.
Does PA not have preemption? I thought it did, but I’d definitely double-check that kind of thing before I carried out of state.
The thugs, of course, will not be checking any federal, state, or local statutes before committing any gun/knife/bare-fist crimes. But I’d like to know whether I’m allowed to be on an even playing field with them when I go somewhere.
I was in professional school in the 70s. One day I was walking from the North Broad Street station up to the hospital. A pimp in a full blown pimp outfit and pimp-mobile stopped and said, “You wana ride with me, Mama?” I laughed and said that I was busy that day! :-)
Later in the late 90s I worked in a clinic across the street from Hunting Park and at another clinic one block from K and A.
Those were the days! :-)
Was born there. Left when I was six. But we went well out of sight of the house and nobody minded. But with an acre right in the middle of the city we had lots of room to play.
Was this guy a typical white person who went into cardiac arrest at the sight of four black people? It’s too bad he missed Barry’s historical speech, it might have saved his life. Or, maybe he did hear it and Barry’s advice turned out to be wrong when the four black youths decided to act like typical black thugs. Does Barry want us to try and understand the frustration and anger of these black youths?
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