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A 'New World Order' for Conservatives?
GOPUSA ^ | Mar. 27, 2008 | Bobby Eberle

Posted on 03/27/2008 8:52:59 AM PDT by AuntB

Last week, I focused on Sen. Obama's speech about his "former" pastor. I thought the speech was both fascinating and scary in how it revealed so much of what the senator actually believes. Who would have thought that in such a short time, there would be another speech that seems equally revealing and that has conservatives grumbling. Though not given all the advance billing of a "major address" like Sen. Obama's speech, the comments delivered by Sen. John McCain on Wednesday have conservatives such as myself up in arms. To Sen. McCain.... when you give a speech like that -- a speech John Kerry could have given -- are you purposely thumbing your nose at conservatives?

In a speech before the World Affairs Council in Los Angeles, California, Sen. McCain delivered a laundry list of all things non-conservative. Speaking of new world orders, North American Unions, and global permission to protect American interests is so far from our basic Republican platform that I don't even need to use the word conservative, it's not even Republican. Let's take a look at what the senator from Arizona -- the REPUBLICAN NOMINEE -- had to say.

On Rush Limbaugh's program, the conservative talk show host correctly honed in on one of the items that particularly went up my spine. Rush takes issues with the following McCain statement:

MCCAIN: Our great power does not mean we can do whatever we want, whenever we want, nor should we assume we have all the wisdom and knowledge necessary to succeed. We need to listen, we need to listen to the views and respect the collective will of our Democratic allies. When we believe international action is necessary, whether military, economic, or diplomatic, we will try to persuade our friends that we are right. But we in return must be willing to be persuaded by them.

What McCain is saying is that American interests are now up for veto by the collective "world body" and we must always get permission before action is taken. Clearly we don't want our "democratic allies" to be mad at us. This is just another step in diminishing America's role as leader of the free world. As Rush states, "Liberals are going to love this speech. This is the problem. This is their stated approach. This is no different than what John Kerry was talking about doing, although his remarks were in the context of military involvement, but McCain included that here."

Rush addressed a few other areas of McCain's speech, but one part that particularly bothered me was this passage:

Relations with our southern neighbors must be governed by mutual respect, not by an imperial impulse or by anti-American demagoguery. The promise of North, Central, and South American life is too great for that. I believe the Americas can and must be the model for a new 21st century relationship between North and South. Ours can be the first completely democratic hemisphere, where trade is free across all borders, where the rule of law and the power of free markets advance the security and prosperity of all.

Again, this sounds like something straight from the liberal manifesto. I'm sorry, I'm just not buying it. When Lee Greenwood belts out those stirring words that make our hearts beat a little stronger, he doesn't sing, "I'm proud to be a North American." When I get up in the morning, I don't pray to God and thank him for the fact that our neighbors are Canada and Mexico. I don't long for the day when people will say, "Hey you are one of those Western Hemisphere folks, aren't you? Cool...." I'm proud to be an American! A citizen of the United States of America. I do not want alliances that take away American sovereignty or diminish our capacity to do what is in the best interest of America. Any presidential candidate who talks otherwise is sending up a huge red flag to conservatives across the country.

McCain goes on to call for the closing of the Guantanamo Bay detention facility. That is simply crazy. Would we no longer house enemy combatants? Of course we would. We'd simply have another Gitmo under a different name. So, there is no reason to close what we already have. Suggesting so is simply catering to liberals both at home and abroad that America is somehow the bad guy who needs to clean up his act. Forget it!!!

The comments poured in yesterday, and it might be wise for the senator's presidential campaign to make a note that trying to fundraise among conservatives on the same day you give a "new world order" speech is not really a great idea.

I was going to send a contribution, but after today's speech I have changed my mind. I just won't vote in the next election. I feel this country is going to hell in a handbasket. I can't believe we will close Gitmo! -- Liz O.

After the speech McCain gave today 3/26, about closing Gitmo and torture, and the global B.S. he will never get my vote, even if he RAN UNOPPOSED. -- Bob L.

I honestly am not to the point that I can say for certain I will even vote for you, Senator McCain, let alone send a donation. I heard some of your speech today and really object to much of it. -- Nancy M.

I am proud of America... a country that was forged in the fires of liberty, freedom, and leadership. When America faces adversity, we face that adversity head on, and we lead. We don't ask, "Excuse, kind European neighbor, are we really facing adversity, because, um, er, if not, we'll just go back across the Atlantic. Just wanted to check with you because maybe you thought that perhaps we might just sort of be right and that America should act. Of course we won't take any action that might make you upset."

America is strong, and we will continue to be so, as long as we have leaders who will promote and defend America and not sell us out to the "global village."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; globalism; gop; mccain; mccainforeignpolicy; newglobalorder; nwo; worldaffairscouncil
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1 posted on 03/27/2008 8:53:03 AM PDT by AuntB
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To: AuntB

No comment? Relay this to the McCain campaign:

McCain is making a basic error by putting a name to these institutions that should not be named, which would not affect their existence anyway except in the minds of the sleeping. All it does is alarm the children.


2 posted on 03/27/2008 8:56:13 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: AuntB

See my post below (8:46): “McCain proposes new Global Coalition” for similar thoughts.


3 posted on 03/27/2008 8:58:03 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: AuntB

We are in a terrible position.

We vote in a guy who will change the definition of conservatism forever or one of two radical socialists.

So many of us warned others about McCain for years. The MSM pushed McCain on us and a too many uninformed “Republicans” and RINOs believed their crap.


4 posted on 03/27/2008 8:58:08 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media Controls Our Party. Go, RINOS!)
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To: AuntB

The man who loves other countries as much as his own stands on a level with the man who loves other women as much as he loves his own wife.
Theodore Roosevelt


5 posted on 03/27/2008 8:59:08 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: AuntB

let's all sing a john lennon song. He was a great man, not a burned out freaky pot head

6 posted on 03/27/2008 8:59:58 AM PDT by puffer
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To: AuntB

In a speech before the World Affairs Council in Los Angeles, California, Sen. McCain delivered a laundry list of all things non-conservative.

It’s obvious that there is no place in the GOP for conservatives. Reagan was a fluke that wasn’t supposed to happen. The only real question left is how can conservatives have any effect on policy. Holding our nose and voting for RINOs for the last 20 years has only squandered our political capital.


7 posted on 03/27/2008 9:00:08 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (It's too bad I've already promised myself to never vote for McCain.)
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To: AuntB

Obama is Jim Jones updated for this decade, he is a man descended from the cult of African-American politics of hate. He should be thankful that our establishment is full of cowards and simpletons who have neither the nerve or the ability to put him into a cross examination.


8 posted on 03/27/2008 9:00:33 AM PDT by junta (It's Poltical Correctness stupid! Hold liberals accountable for their actions, a new idea.)
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To: AuntB

Jack Kemp and Phil Gramm might have to come out and spin this.


9 posted on 03/27/2008 9:01:00 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (It's truly bad when your Savior in November is Judas Himself.)
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To: AuntB
It appears the media have been selecting republican candidates for several years.. by spiking any they disapprove of.. And making it easyier for those to get "coverage" for those they like..

Could explain the glut of RINOs..

10 posted on 03/27/2008 9:02:58 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: rightinthemiddle

“We vote in a guy who will change the definition of conservatism forever or one of two radical socialists.”

Yes, it’s a Hobson’s choice. I will vote for McPain and I hope he chooses a VP who is a real conservative. McPain is likely to be a one term president and if his VP is OK we have a hope for the future. Conservatism isn’t dead and buried, it’s just on a holiday for a few years. Our values and goals have enough merit to last out a few years in the wilderness.


11 posted on 03/27/2008 9:05:19 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: hosepipe

“It appears the media have been selecting republican candidates for several years.. by spiking any they disapprove of.. And making it easyier for those to get “coverage” for those they like..

Could explain the glut of RINOs..”

In a nutshell, hosepipe.


12 posted on 03/27/2008 9:06:14 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: AuntB
"To Sen. McCain.... when you give a speech like that -- a speech John Kerry could have given -- are you purposely thumbing your nose at conservatives?"

Perhaps, but the deeper purpose of McLame's globalist, leftist speech was to help secure votes from leftists, because he knows that conservatives won't be voting for him. Now we know why McLame came close to leaving the Republican party at least twice. John McCain is Hillary Clinton with a war record. But unfortunately for we conservatives, he confessed yesterday that his war record has raised up the pacifist in his heart.

13 posted on 03/27/2008 9:06:30 AM PDT by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: hosepipe

What explains everyone that votes the RINOs in?


14 posted on 03/27/2008 9:08:23 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: AuntB

We now have a ONE party system in America,it just happens to have two different names.

Our ONLY choice IMHO is to run someone on a 3rd party ticket and lets bury the Republican party for good.

It is time for conservatives to create a new party.

The Conservative Party


15 posted on 03/27/2008 9:12:26 AM PDT by stockpirate (A country that does not honor it's warriors will be defeated by one that does)
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To: stuartcr
[ What explains everyone that votes the RINOs in? ]

Clothes pins on the nose.. I suggest smacking the clothes pin off any nose you come into contact with.... Many designer clothes pins here on Free republic..

I say make them SMELL what they just did.. the freepin cowards..

16 posted on 03/27/2008 9:13:17 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: AuntB
How many times do McCain supporting freepers need to be reminded he is willing to cede our national sovereignty to a world order? How many times does McCain have to speak before they realize he is a socialist? It is more proof the GOP is moving closer to the socialist left and that we have only a one party system.
17 posted on 03/27/2008 9:13:54 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: freedomfiter2
The Republicans are now the party of compromise so that the smooth flow of business isn't interrupted.When your party platform is me too socialism then why be surprised that your "base" won't give you votes or money anymore.
18 posted on 03/27/2008 9:17:46 AM PDT by bonehead4freedom (I haven't left the Republicans ,they have left me!)
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To: RicocheT

The problem with this is that after McCain is out of office, the blame will fall at the feet of Republicans as a whole. It probably would be wise to start another party.


19 posted on 03/27/2008 9:18:14 AM PDT by McKayopectate
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To: RicocheT

I will vote for McPain and I hope he chooses a VP who is a real conservative.

Despite my tagline, if McCain chose a true conservative for vp and a team of Doctors assured me that McCain had less than 6 months to live, I would vote for him.


20 posted on 03/27/2008 9:18:42 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (It's too bad I've already promised myself to never vote for McCain.)
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To: freedomfiter2
Holding our nose and voting for RINOs for the last 20 years has only squandered our political capital.

That bore repeating.

I'm surprised no RINO-bots have started in on you.

Voting for a party/candidates that have no intention of going where you want to go is no compromise. It is surrender.

21 posted on 03/27/2008 9:20:40 AM PDT by Lester Moore (This is the most regulated, monitored and controlled, and least free society in history.)
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To: Lester Moore

I’m surprised no RINO-bots have started in on you.

Not only do my ears not hear whiners but my monitor doesn’t display RINO-speak.


22 posted on 03/27/2008 9:23:51 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (It's too bad I've already promised myself to never vote for McCain.)
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To: rightinthemiddle
I believe prayer is our hope here though it might just be too late to request no punishment for our collective sins of ommision and commission.

In many ways, we ARE getting exactly what we have "asked" for by our collective refusal to thank or even acknowledge our humanity to our Creator.

We have stood by as millions of innocents have been lost to lust and greed and even granted millions of our tax dollars to pay for it under the guise of "family planning" (we would make Hitler proud), we have accepted "tolerance" of Sodom and Gomorrah behavior as an "alternative lifestyle", supported as "art" filth and pornography (again supported it with millions of our tax dollars), allowed the sexualization and loss of innocence of our children by the NEA, television, music and movies, turned our heads and tolerated rampant crime in our major cities and called it a "civil" right, permitted drugs to permeate our culture and demanded relalxation of laws against pot for "medicinal reasons."

That we now find ourselves forced to choose between one anti-American, anti-capitalistic, anti-freedom candidate or another is dreadful.

There a remedy, if it's not too late. The directions are found in the Old Testament,

2 Chron.7:14, "If My people, who are called by My name, will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land."

23 posted on 03/27/2008 9:25:40 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: bill1952

McCain is going to make Bush look like Lincoln, T. Roosevelt and Reagan all rolled into one.


24 posted on 03/27/2008 9:25:58 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media Controls Our Party. Go, RINOS!)
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To: AuntB

Closing Guantanamo Bay as a detention facility is but a prelude to closing it altogether and deeding it back to Socialist Cuba.

BAD policy. Guantanamo is a sufficient extension of our power into the Carribbean and the northern points of South America, as well as keeping an eye on developments in Cuba.

Key West used to serve this function, but its mission has been greatly diluted, simply because it is a tourist haven and subject to “historic significance” much more than it is a military base now. So it would not make much of a detention camp, how would that work on Duval Street?


25 posted on 03/27/2008 9:28:11 AM PDT by alloysteel (Living at large as a toxic curiosity since 1962)
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To: rightinthemiddle
"The MSM pushed McCain on us ..."

They didn't do it without help from the republican party.

26 posted on 03/27/2008 9:40:34 AM PDT by norton
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To: norton

Absolutely right. RINOs in the Republican “establishment,” Independents, the Mindless Middle and eight years from the MSM gave us McCain.


27 posted on 03/27/2008 9:44:04 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media Controls Our Party. Go, RINOS!)
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To: norton

They didn’t do it without help from the republican party.

The unwillingness of conservatives to rally behind a single candidate is what caused this mess.


28 posted on 03/27/2008 9:45:13 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (It's too bad I've already promised myself to never vote for McCain.)
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To: RicocheT
Our values and goals have enough merit to last out a few years in the wilderness.

I guess the question is do you want to enter the wilderness with a guide that's supposed to guide YOU, but is actually willing to guide your enemy, or do you enter the wilderness with a guide that you KNOW is supposed to guide your enemy?

I'd rather go down fighting against an enemy than be stabbed in the back by a supposed friend.

29 posted on 03/27/2008 9:51:04 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: alloysteel

McCain’s speech swerved left on a couple other issues.

He called for a “New Kyoto” treaty on CO2 emissions, and he suggested that “Cap and Trade,” which is the buying and selling of CO2 emission credits, should be implemented world wide.

He also stated, “I detest war.”

Yes, a great idea!

The future commander-in-chief of America’s armed forces alerting America’s enemies that he will always walk the extra mile to avoid violent conflict.

Hey, John, good luck with that Western states fund raiser you and Mitt Romney just started.


30 posted on 03/27/2008 9:51:27 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: freedomfiter2
The unwillingness of conservatives to rally behind a conservative single candidate is what caused this mess.
31 posted on 03/27/2008 9:52:31 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe

The unwillingness of conservatives to rally behind a conservative single candidate is what caused this mess.

It’s true that there weren’t any perfect candidates but then again there never will be. Almost any of the others are better than McCain.


32 posted on 03/27/2008 9:58:04 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (It's too bad I've already promised myself to never vote for McCain.)
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To: freedomfiter2
I didn't say "perfect" candidate. I said "conservative" candidate.
There is a difference.

Everyone was SOOOOO worried about getting a candidate that could, "beat Hillary", they neglected to realize that the GOP should field a conservative candidate.

That, along with open primaries in the first states, and the MSM shilling for liberal Republicans got us where we are today.

33 posted on 03/27/2008 10:03:04 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe

Just off the top of my head I beleive that Hunter is sufficiently conservative to wear that label.


34 posted on 03/27/2008 10:05:02 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (It's too bad I've already promised myself to never vote for McCain.)
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To: AuntB

There are no good reasons to leave the Gitmo facility open. Even our most trusted allies like the Brits and Australians have problems with that place. We should have enough confidence in our legal system.


35 posted on 03/27/2008 10:07:26 AM PDT by KingJaja
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To: stuartcr
"What explains everyone that votes the RINOs in?"

All a RINO has to do is tell conservatives they have no choice and many will meekly fall in line. Witness the McCain accepters. They're motivation is absolute terror. And that motivation will give them a catastrophe.

36 posted on 03/27/2008 10:08:01 AM PDT by isrul (Help make koranimals an endangered species)
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To: Man50D
The only feeble response they can give is that there is no choice. That's how we have come to this sorry state of affairs.
37 posted on 03/27/2008 10:09:55 AM PDT by isrul (Help make koranimals an endangered species)
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To: freedomfiter2
Just off the top of my head I beleive that Hunter is sufficiently conservative to wear that label.

Ahhh, grasshopper, you speak wisdom.
But according to the majority wisdom, even on this site, he wasn't "electable" enough to beat Hillary.

All the actual conservatives weren't "electable" enough.

38 posted on 03/27/2008 10:10:20 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: freedomfiter2
He could do a lot of damage in six months. How about three days or twenty four hours after he takes the oath he will surely betray??
39 posted on 03/27/2008 10:12:34 AM PDT by isrul (Help make koranimals an endangered species)
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To: Just another Joe

You’re right. It was the electability factor that ensured we’d be choosing between two libs this fall.


40 posted on 03/27/2008 10:14:41 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (It's too bad I've already promised myself to never vote for McCain.)
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To: zerosix

Amen Maybe that should be said every day as we lift up our hearts to the Lord.


41 posted on 03/27/2008 10:16:08 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: junta
Obama is "half-honkey and all-donkey."

Love that t-shirt.

42 posted on 03/27/2008 10:16:35 AM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools these mortals be!")
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To: rightinthemiddle
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43 posted on 03/27/2008 10:17:22 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: KingJaja
There are no good reasons to leave the Gitmo facility open. Even our most trusted allies like the Brits and Australians have problems with that place. We should have enough confidence in our legal system.

the prisoners there didn't violate "American" laws... they are enemy combatants... most without uniforms that in prior wars meant that you interrogated them...then killed them.

44 posted on 03/27/2008 10:21:08 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: KingJaja

War criminals are not a part of, and should never be a part of our legal system.

To paraphrase a great man, the difference between a criminal and a war criminal is the difference between a jacket and a straight jacket.


45 posted on 03/27/2008 10:24:18 AM PDT by waverna
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To: AuntB

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until a majority of voters discover that they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury - Alexander Tytler:

Majority of voters = “minorities” and victim groups.
Public treasury = the fruits of white european labors.

This explains both the candidates we have been allowed to choose from, and the death of the conservative movement as a viable platform. My only question is: When the white european males are finally purged from America, how long will the next set of “rich guys” last? Til morning, I suspect.


46 posted on 03/27/2008 10:31:27 AM PDT by Republic Can (Ride Hard. Live Free)
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To: AuntB

Those very things in his speech that gave some of the commentators heartburn also gave me heartburn. Some of the things sounded like they could have been taken from the Dem policy book. The only thing he seemed strong on was Iraq; the one area where he differed from the Dems.

Like a lot of people have said about him, he’s Dem-Lite.


47 posted on 03/27/2008 10:35:41 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Just another "typical white person" who is sure Obama does not want his vote)
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To: stockpirate

Count me in for the establishment of The Conservative Party as a successor to the failed Republican Party.


48 posted on 03/27/2008 10:37:16 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Change.....that's what we will have left in our pockets if a Democrat gets elected president!)
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To: AuntB
...the Americas can and must be the model for a new 21st century relationship between North and South...

Shiver.

49 posted on 03/27/2008 10:40:53 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Steve0113

ping


50 posted on 03/27/2008 10:51:03 AM PDT by Republic Can (Ride Hard. Live Free)
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