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From $70K to food bank, one family's struggle
CNN.com ^ | March 27, 2008 | Thelma Gutierrez and Wayne Drash

Posted on 03/27/2008 3:30:36 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

ALTADENA, California (CNN) -- When she was laid off in February, Patricia Guerrero was making $70,000 a year. Weeks later, with bills piling up and in need of food for her family, this middle-class mother did something she never thought she would do: She went to a food bank.

It was Good Friday, and a woman helping her offered to pay her utility bill.

"It brought tears to my eyes, and I sat there and I cried. I was like, 'This is really where I'm at?' " she told CNN. "I go 'no way;' [but] this is true. This is reality. This is the stuff you see on TV. It was hard. It was very hard."

Guerrero is estranged from her husband and raising her two young children. She's already burned through her savings to help make ends meet, and is drawing unemployment checks. She has had to take extreme measures to pay for her interest-only mortgage of $2,500 a month. In fact, her mother moved in with her to help pay the bills.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: foodbank; mortgagecrisis
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1 posted on 03/27/2008 3:30:36 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

How many Februarys ago was she laid off (to have already burned thru her savings)?


2 posted on 03/27/2008 3:35:08 PM PDT by NewCenturions ('S mòr mo mhulad, 's mòr.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
"She has had to take extreme measures to pay for her interest-only mortgage of $2,500 a month."

That savings account she burned through must have been a real whopper since she's only been paying enough on her home for the interest.

3 posted on 03/27/2008 3:36:46 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: NewCenturions

seriously! Are they saying in one month she went from middle class to the bread line? What is wrong with these people??


4 posted on 03/27/2008 3:37:14 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Move


5 posted on 03/27/2008 3:37:50 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Interest-only mortgage of $2500 per month?

That would make the principal something around $1/2 mil, wouldn’t it?


6 posted on 03/27/2008 3:37:57 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Steely's First Law of the Main Stream Media: if it doesn't advance the agenda, it's not news.)
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To: NewCenturions

She had no savings. $70,000 income minus taxes comes out to maybe $55,000, and if she’s paying $2500 a month for mortgage that’s $30,000 right there. Take away food and utilities there isn’t much left. She was living beyond her means to begin with.


7 posted on 03/27/2008 3:38:14 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: NewCenturions

She was a processor of flipper loans.


8 posted on 03/27/2008 3:38:25 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

She must have been living on the edge before she was laid off to have emptied her savings that quickly.


9 posted on 03/27/2008 3:38:45 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
$2500 a month mortgage? Maybe a move to some sustainable housing is in order. How much of a mortgage carries such a large payment?
10 posted on 03/27/2008 3:39:09 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
...her interest-only mortgage of $2,500

In CA, over-inlflated home values have plunged and I bet this woman is now upside down on her mortgage by 50K or more now.

If your interest payment is $2,000.00 and that is all you can afford, she should have hightailed out of California a long time ago when she had some savings.

11 posted on 03/27/2008 3:40:22 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: NewCenturions

Did she even have any savings?


12 posted on 03/27/2008 3:40:31 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Mark was here

Maybe she took out a 2nd mortgage for that nice sofa and sponge painted wall

13 posted on 03/27/2008 3:40:51 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

I just read that! She was working in the industry that caused all this crap in the first place. By the looks of her, she can afford to skip a few meals anyway.


14 posted on 03/27/2008 3:41:14 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I feel for this woman, but she’s a common problem in current America - living rich without a thought for tomorrow.

Earllier posters have hit the nail on the head - no savings - where did her $70,000.00/year go? With a paycheck every two weeks and at a 35% tax bite, that still leaves her with $1,750.00 per pay period. If her mortgage is $2,500.00, that leaves her with $1,000.00 a month for everything else...

Get out of the dang house and get something affordable!

Sell the SUV and buy a junker or take the bus.

Eat beans and rice.

Cut up the credit cards.

Etc., etc., etc.


15 posted on 03/27/2008 3:42:55 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Don't cheer for Obama too hard - the krinton syndicate is moving back into the WH.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

An interest only mortgage of $2500 per month? No wonder she’s not making it. She has too much house.

But, I guess it is somehow my fault... because I, along with others who insist upon living within our means will have to help bail her out.

I don’t mind helping out someone dealing with misfortune, but paying for THEIR mistakes grates on me.


16 posted on 03/27/2008 3:43:03 PM PDT by PalmettoMason ( I 'm a TWP! (Typical White Person, whatever THAT is!))
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Just more of the Clinton News Network soup kitchen bread line stories of gloom and doom to scare the sheeple.


17 posted on 03/27/2008 3:43:34 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: BurbankKarl

Looks like she should cut her food bill in half


18 posted on 03/27/2008 3:45:33 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: BurbankKarl
From 70k to WIC in 2 months.


19 posted on 03/27/2008 3:46:01 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: KeyLargo

She can buy the route from the illegal alien lady who makes $38,000/yr stealing Pasadena’s recyclables.


20 posted on 03/27/2008 3:46:54 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Man50D; All

Sometimes people get fired or laid off and it blindsides them.
Sometimes people make a mistake or two and lose everything they have.
Sometimes people don’t have enough savings to get through.
Sometimes people don’t have enough time to get a job and offer their kids the best possible care.
Some people lose their savings, some don’t have them.
Some folks’ savings are stolen.
Sometimes people get screwed by fate.
Sometimes neighbors and churches and synagogues and charities can’t or won’t help.
Sometimes people just need something other than a bunch of self-righteous jerks pointing and smirking.


21 posted on 03/27/2008 3:47:53 PM PDT by FrPR
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To: Steely Tom

It southern California, $1/2 mill is probably the current median


22 posted on 03/27/2008 3:50:47 PM PDT by newbie 10-21-00
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To: BurbankKarl

“From 70k to WIC in 2 months.”

Guerrero even applied for food stamps, but was denied.

Did you miss this?

And if her two kids are over the age of 5, they don’t quality for WIC either.


23 posted on 03/27/2008 3:51:39 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: FrPR

Dude. The lady bought too much house and is now whining about it so that I will have to pay for it. If being unwilling to pay for somebody else’s bad investments makes me a “self-righteous jerk” then I must have taken a wrong turn on the internet somewhere and ended up at SocialistRepublic.


24 posted on 03/27/2008 3:53:25 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: NewCenturions
How many Februarys ago was she laid off (to have already burned thru her savings)?

Does not say when she was estranged from her husband. Maybe the husband was the major support (Bread winner) for this family

25 posted on 03/27/2008 3:53:35 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: FrPR
Sometimes people just need something other than a bunch of self-righteous jerks pointing and smirking.

Get over yourself. I've been laid off three times, twice unexpectedly. I was able to make my savings last several months each time.

Sometimes people just need something other than a bunch of self-righteous jerks pointing and smirking.

Include yourself in that crowd.
26 posted on 03/27/2008 3:53:49 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: FrPR
Sometimes people just need something other than a bunch of self-righteous jerks pointing and smirking.

Unfortunately, there tends to be a lot of that bunch on FR.

There's a gray area in the $45,000 to $75,000 annual household income range for folks living in areas with high cost of living (try Northern Virginia or California). Folks who get stuck in the gray area are "rich" enough to pay high taxes but not poor enough to receive benefits.

And no amount of "you were stupid, move three states away and take up a totally different job" is going to help.

27 posted on 03/27/2008 3:55:39 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (I have great faith in the American people. I have no faith in the American government, however.)
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To: NewCenturions

Exactly. We don’t even make half that and I guarantee we could make it more than her couple weeks. Helloooo, if she’s been laid off then she’s getting an unemployment check at the very least. Wanna bet she bought her kids each a PS3 and everyone has iPods and all the latest “in” clothes. It’s sickening because it’s most likely the lower income folks who donated to the food bank.


28 posted on 03/27/2008 3:55:44 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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To: FrPR

Amen brother. The ignorance around here is astounding.


29 posted on 03/27/2008 3:56:08 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Steely Tom
Typical for California I am afraid.

I bought and recently sold a half million dollar house and I am just out of college a few years and climbing my up from no class to middle class.

30 posted on 03/27/2008 3:57:04 PM PDT by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD)
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To: FrPR

Agreed with everything you said, but it begs the question...When does it morph from her problem/issue to society’s problem/issue? Are you and I called to help everyone who has had bad luck or made poor choices? If so, for how long? Should society pay more in child support than her ex? If so, why?

See my tag line.


31 posted on 03/27/2008 3:57:45 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

Oh, and forgot to add that my house is paid off, (raspberry!).


32 posted on 03/27/2008 3:57:50 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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To: mtbopfuyn

I can tell you there is NO MERCY for anyone with mortgage broker, real estate agent, title company on their resume in California.


33 posted on 03/27/2008 3:58:24 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: newbie 10-21-00
You got it. In some areas of southern Cali 1/2 million is below average.
34 posted on 03/27/2008 3:59:10 PM PDT by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD)
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To: Slump Tester

That’s the problem. Too many people thinking they can have an interest only loan that allows you to get a whopping big refund check once a year from IRS...all the while just banking on the value of the house going up enough so that when they ‘sell’, they make money, pay off the cost of the house, and have lived with their ‘rent, taxes, etc.’ being deductible and refundable to the tune of getting 1/3 back. Screw them. She and the others in similar situations are risk-taking opportunists looking for “the quick buck”. She, or her ex should have tried getting the old fashioned slow way by living within their means and not trying to get something for nothing.


35 posted on 03/27/2008 3:59:24 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: newbie 10-21-00
It southern California, $1/2 mill is probably the current median

It said the town of Altadena, where I was raised. Modest homes, but everything in CA is expensive, so your average home could easily be $500,000.

36 posted on 03/27/2008 4:01:03 PM PDT by Red Boots
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To: Irish Eyes

estranged is an interesting term
did he bail w/o child support?

In any event you’ll never see a story like this if there is a Dumbocrat in the WH.


37 posted on 03/27/2008 4:01:05 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: babble-on

Her industry caused all the crap? She pulled people in off the streets and demanded they take out mortgages? You get extra jerk points for remarking on her weight- does your mommy know you are online?


38 posted on 03/27/2008 4:02:12 PM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: allmendream

not anymore....dropping like a rock.

Statewide, median sales prices fell by a stunning 26% from year-ago levels in February, with home prices dropping at a rate of nearly $3,000 a week, the California Association of Realtors reports. Further, the CAR says the Fed’s interest rate-cutting campaign “will have little near-term direct effect on the housing market.”

—In the San Fernando Valley, losing a home to foreclosure is now almost as common for families as buying a home. The L.A. Daily News: “During January and February, there were 1,084 foreclosures and 1,335 sales of houses and condos in Valley communities from Glendale to Calabasas, according to the San Fernando Valley Economic Research Center at California State University, Northridge.”

“It’s bad. It’s really bad,” market analyst Nima Nattagh told the Daily News.

The California Association of Realtors reports median prices fell 27.2% from year-ago levels in the hard-hit Inland Empire east of Los Angeles, 30.9% in Sacramento, and 39.1% in Santa Barbara County.

On a percentage basis, the California price meltdown is more than three times as severe as the national decline of 8.2% in median prices reported this week by the National Association of Realtors. On an absolute basis, the California meltdown is even more severe: Nationally, prices fell over the past year at a rate of $338 per week; in California, prices fell at a rate of $2,788 per week.


39 posted on 03/27/2008 4:03:29 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Irish Eyes
Does not say when she was estranged from her husband. Maybe the husband was the major support (Bread winner) for this family

I was wondering about that as well. And simply being "estranged" from her husband doesn't absolve him of the financial responsibility he owes his family.

40 posted on 03/27/2008 4:08:55 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: KeyLargo

exactly if unemployment is 4% and the population is 200 million
CNN could have 8 million people come and talk about how bad they have it

but dont worry come nov 2nd the economy will be fine becasue either the election will be over and they will stop talking down the economy or a dem will win at which point they will begin to tell us how great the economy is


41 posted on 03/27/2008 4:09:00 PM PDT by edzo4
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To: BurbankKarl
Yes I know. I had to short sale the house. Luckily I wont have to pay taxes on the amount my house lost over the two years I owned it being counted as “income” from the mortgage company. One thing Congress did right this year.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-3648

42 posted on 03/27/2008 4:10:27 PM PDT by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD)
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To: rogue yam

http://www.homes.com/Content/ListingSearchResults.cfm?City=ALTADENA&State=CA&Bedrooms=&FullBaths=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&PriceRange=&AmenitiesList=&PropType=%20&TotalRecs=43&MinSqFt=&MaxSqFt=&LotSize=&MinYear=&MaxYear=&Canada=0&OrderBy=price%3AD&FirstRec=19

Altadena real estate


43 posted on 03/27/2008 4:10:31 PM PDT by sheana
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To: mtbopfuyn

Watch the video where she talks about having to take off her Tiffany bracelet, and not take her Coach purse, to go to the food bank. Boo Freakin Hoo


44 posted on 03/27/2008 4:11:44 PM PDT by FReepapalooza (Joshua 3:4 ..."for ye have not passed this way heretofore.")
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To: Irish Eyes
Maybe the husband was the major support (Bread winner) for this family

He had to be. No way would she qualify for a half million dollar loan on $70K a year. Maybe she needs to go after him for some child support if those are his kids.

Another thing, she made that $70K in an industry that has put a lot of other people into the same predicament she's in. It was all those mortgage companies finding three-martini appraisals that pushed the bubble up so far.

45 posted on 03/27/2008 4:12:59 PM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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To: BurbankKarl
Bought it for 525 with 10% down, due to job relocation and divorce and bad tenants had to sell short for 435, so we lost the 52k we put down and were looking at a tax bill on 35k the mortgage company “gave” us.

Great legislation.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-3648

46 posted on 03/27/2008 4:13:57 PM PDT by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD)
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To: Gaffer
Folks who over pay for baseball cards, feed the frenzy driving the prices even higher, until someone says hey it is just a baseball card.
47 posted on 03/27/2008 4:14:07 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: BurbankKarl

Sounds like, if someone has the capital, “there’s gold in them thar hills.”


48 posted on 03/27/2008 4:14:25 PM PDT by reegs
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To: BurbankKarl

Title company, too? I mean, real estate agents and mortgage brokers made big fat commissions during the boom times, but title people just make ordinary wages, plus some overtime for giving up nights, weekends, and holidays just to make the commissioned people rich.


49 posted on 03/27/2008 4:15:13 PM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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To: Mark was here
$2500 a month mortgage? Maybe a move to some sustainable housing is in order. How much of a mortgage carries such a large payment?

If it's an interest only loan it must have been a pretty large amount. I pay about the same amount a month on a 15 yr mortgage that I've converted to biweekly. I don't know what people are thinking when they take out ARMs or interest only loans. You're going to pay the piper at some point unless you're really lucky or you have a guaranteed income increase in the future.

50 posted on 03/27/2008 4:18:59 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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