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Hardball: 'Kamikaze' Hillary Ready to Wreck the Party
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 03/27/2008 3:40:44 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

After me, the deluge" (après moi, le déluge) -- popularly attributed to Louis XV

Look for Chris Matthews to start calling her "Louie." The Hardball host was as roiled as Robespierre today at Hillary Clinton's threat to take the Dem party down in a convention credentials fight over the seating of the Florida and Michigan delegates.

In the course of an interview with Greta Van Susteren of Fox News yesterday, Clinton made clear her intention to take things to a floor fight if necessary, and went so far as to pre-emptively undermine Barack Obama's legitimacy as a candidate if he doesn't go along with her proposal to seat the Florida and Michigan delegates. That set Matthews off, though it was panelist Tucker Carlson who supplied the most colorful language, describing Hillary as a "kamikaze" who is "ready to wreck the party."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 2008; chrismatthews; hillaryclinton; kamikazes; pl; tuckercarlson
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1 posted on 03/27/2008 3:40:45 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Apres Hillary le deluge ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 03/27/2008 3:41:24 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

VIVA LA’ CONVENTION RIOT!!!


3 posted on 03/27/2008 3:44:01 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEMOCRAT-You'll look great in a Burka!)
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To: tcrlaf

Operation Chaos on steroids!


4 posted on 03/27/2008 3:46:09 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If the Republicans had supported a Conservative candidate they could have mopped the floor with the socialist Democrats given the division developing within the latter. Instead the GOP panders to the socialists left and ends up with their own socialist with McCain.


5 posted on 03/27/2008 3:47:17 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The nastier the Democratic convention the better. Thinking about the best possible outcome under the present circumstances, it would be Hillary stealing the nomination by manipulating Super Delegates, losing to McCain and alienating the Black vote in the process insuring she could never get the nomination again.


6 posted on 03/27/2008 3:48:26 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"Hillary Clinton - The Tonya Harding of The Democrat Party!


7 posted on 03/27/2008 3:49:01 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“Damnit, Hillary is blocking the tingle up my leg!”


8 posted on 03/27/2008 3:49:26 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

crissy is in luv wit obama. he gets teary eyed when he speaks his name.


9 posted on 03/27/2008 3:49:36 PM PDT by devane617 (Find friends, ditch enemies !)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I just made a $10 bet that Hillary would get the Dem nomination


10 posted on 03/27/2008 3:49:48 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

When are they ever going to learn? hillary is going to have the nomination and use every dirty trick in the book, and plus some not in the book.


11 posted on 03/27/2008 3:50:07 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
CLINTON: I don't think that the nominee of the party will be considered legitimate if we don't figure out how to count those votes for Michigan and Florida.

Hillary can speak the truth, if it favors her that is.

12 posted on 03/27/2008 3:51:00 PM PDT by Biblebelter (Oprah had better judgment that Barry, she left Barry's Uncle Jeremiah while the getting was good.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
How dare you ignore me. I will consume you all.


13 posted on 03/27/2008 3:51:22 PM PDT by bmwcyle (McCain has yet to give conservatives a reason to vote for him)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

roiled as Robespierre ....... good line!


14 posted on 03/27/2008 3:51:52 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: dennisw

Thanks, dennis: it’s all about the alliteration ;-)


15 posted on 03/27/2008 3:53:29 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Hillary:

Don't disenfranchise voters. [Florida and Michigan]

Do disenfranchise voters. [My super delegates need to override Obama's popular vote]

16 posted on 03/27/2008 3:58:51 PM PDT by Swanks
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
OH MY, there is a cross over her left shoulder in the Fox background!!!

intentional?

17 posted on 03/27/2008 3:59:02 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda ( MUST SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkgHkxIfgBc)
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To: dennisw

...as the surviving candidate...


18 posted on 03/27/2008 4:00:26 PM PDT by null and void (It's 3 AM, do you know where Hillary is? Does she know where Bill is? Does Bill know what 'is' is?)
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To: dennisw
Former President Bill Clinton gestures to the crowd as he campaigns ...
His Heinous

Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, ...
Her Heinous

Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, ...
Her Heinous

In this Monday March 25, 1996 file picture, first lady Hillary ...

In this Monday March 25, 1996 file picture, first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton kisses Emina Bicakcic, 8, from Sarajevo who dedicated a poem to her shortly after her arrival at the Tuzla Air Base. Mrs. Clinton's daughter Chelsea, left, accompanies her on their one-day visit to the U.S. troops stationed in Bosnia. Clinton says she made a mistake in claiming that she came under hostile fire when landing in Bosnia as first lady 12 years ago

Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, ...
And the star of the show --Huma

19 posted on 03/27/2008 4:00:32 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: dennisw

Looks like Hillary’s after some of that Huma....look at her eyes.


20 posted on 03/27/2008 4:02:40 PM PDT by Swanks
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To: Man50D

Yeah, too bad Republicans don’t have one of those primary deals where people vote for a nominee.


21 posted on 03/27/2008 4:05:09 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
It's time for Operation Chaos to change direction and support Obama in Pennsylvania. If Hillary wins big in PA., she'll claim she has a mandate and should be the nominee. If Obama wins, or comes close, Hillary will discount the results as evidence of the “Rush Factor” (which Barack will vehemently deny.) Either way, Hillary is not turning back at this point.Obama will be much easier to beat in the general election.
22 posted on 03/27/2008 4:05:37 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Gee, Hillary is acting like a woman posessed.

I mean, seriously, if she actually BECOMES the next president, I am going to have to do some more study of revelation, Daniel, Ezekiel, etc. regarding that “beast” thing.

This foaming-at-the-mouth “I will be the candidate or you’ll all go down with me” scorched earth thing is mind bogglingly narcissistic and rabidly unreasonable.

Like I said, she is acting like a woman POSESSED.


23 posted on 03/27/2008 4:09:07 PM PDT by RobRoy (I'm confused. I mean, I THINK I am, but I'm not sure. But I could be wrong about that.)
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To: Swanks

I’ve heard Humass is pretty good. Isn’t thay a Middle Eastern delicacy?


24 posted on 03/27/2008 4:10:18 PM PDT by saganite
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To: GreenHornet

Hell No! Its time Democraps get a serious taste of their own medicine. They screwed us with McCain, and now we have one of a very few opportunities to really destroy their party for pay back! VIVA RUSH! VIVA OPERATION CHAOS!


25 posted on 03/27/2008 4:12:09 PM PDT by Bommer ("He that controls the spice controls the universe!" (unfortunately that spice is Nutmeg!))
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

After watching John McCain’s speech yesterday, I can honestly admit that the only joy I can get out of this election cycle is if Hillary implements the “Tonya Harding option” on the entire Dem party.


26 posted on 03/27/2008 4:14:59 PM PDT by NRG1973
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

they wanted hillary now they have her, she is a nasty one isn’t she


27 posted on 03/27/2008 4:15:02 PM PDT by bigjackattack
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To: tcrlaf

Rye-it, rye-it, toe-gah, toe-gah


28 posted on 03/27/2008 4:20:27 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: dennisw

What is that odd bulge on Huma’s thigh?


29 posted on 03/27/2008 4:21:52 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Thinking about the best possible outcome under the present circumstances, it would be Hillary stealing the nomination by manipulating Super Delegates, losing to McCain and alienating the Black vote in the process insuring she could never get the nomination again.

While I've been salivating at that prospect, the flip side of it has started to intrigue me of late. I can see the feminazi DLC wing of the DemonRat party trying to go all the way to the convention, thinking that they can unseat Obama from front runner status, then being very bitterly disappointed when their tricks don't work.

If the Beest is to get another bite of the apple, it would have to come in 2012, and they probably will see McCain as quite weak during a first term. I can see realistic reasons why they would vote third party just to deny Obama the chance at having eight straight years, since even they think he'd be a more effective president than McCain.

The only time in the last forty years that the Rats have been able to win the White House is when they figured out how to combine the gimme-gimme far left with a DLC'er from the South. If those two factions divorce each other for a generation, the whole country would benefit from it. Vote Hillary wherever possible, FRiends! We need to minimize the time Barry O has to make kumbayah within his party.

31 posted on 03/27/2008 4:24:38 PM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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32 posted on 03/27/2008 4:25:13 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: Man50D

So true. Sad but true. Captain Queeg is a lousy candidate. He is liberal on tax hikes, immigration, campaign finance, and a host of other things. He’s made it clear that he hates the GOP, yet the establishment still anointed him despite the presence of more qualified rivals. He should be going down to defeat in flames. Only the spectacle of the hapless Hussein and Hitlery beating on each other has saved him. I still wont vote for him. I cannot vote for a liberal, even if he says he is a Republican. I hope Captain Queeg loses so we can throw away the GOP and start a Conservative Party in order to elect candidates in 2010 and 2012.


33 posted on 03/27/2008 4:28:14 PM PDT by Astronaut
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

At some point and that point is soon approaching, Democrats all the way down the ticket from US Senator to local dog catcher are going to realize that this intra-party nastiness will negatively affect their chances for re-election.

There are a LOT of swing districts that could easily swing back to GOP if there are even a few thousand disgusted DEM voters who go GOP or stay home.

Chris Dodd alluded to as much today when he said that party leaders needed to step in soon and get this settled. He knows there are a lot of cronies whose jobs will be on the line if this squabble extends all the way to the convention and beyond.

Who is brave enough in the DEM party to go to Hill and Bill and tell them it’s over - get lost? I nominate Kennedy.

Hehehe...


34 posted on 03/27/2008 4:31:37 PM PDT by randita (I'm a "typical white person" and I voted for Lynn Swann.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I'm serious here, not being part of Operation Chaos.

It is simply not acceptable for a major political party to disenfranchise its delegates from two major states, leaving party members in those states with no voice in the Presidential nomination. Something has to be done to give those members representation.

It is not an answer to say the candidates knew the "rules." This isn't a candidate issue, its a voter issue. A "rule" that results in American citizens and registered voters having no say in their party's nomination process should not be a valid rule.

Now that their legislators have ruled out a "do-over" I don't know what the answer is, but they need to do something. Dean and the party leaders should never have been so dumb as to paint themselves into this corner.

It could be an ugly convention and if they don't fix this problem, it should be.

35 posted on 03/27/2008 4:35:24 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: colorado tanker

The Kamikaze attack by the Hillery! Cherry Blossom squadron lead by Baka Rodham still won’t hold off the chosen one.
He is positively annointed.

Nice to see that Demorat “UNITY”.


36 posted on 03/27/2008 4:42:53 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
'Kamikaze' Hillary Ready to Wreck the Party

Watcha call a twofer.

37 posted on 03/27/2008 4:44:01 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: dennisw

Made a five dollar bet yesterday that neither the Witch nor BHO get the nomination. And no it is not an open bet.


38 posted on 03/27/2008 4:44:55 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Herself, the Broad and Wicked, is just makin’ friends left and right.

AW.


39 posted on 03/27/2008 4:45:54 PM PDT by bannie (clintons CHEAT! It's their only weapon.)
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To: Biblebelter; governsleastgovernsbest
Hillary can speak the truth, if it favors her that is.

Hillary can speak the truth only if a lie doesn't help her more.

40 posted on 03/27/2008 4:53:57 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Nuc1

I have said the same thing for long time about the possibility of Gore “saving the day” for the Dems.....truly a nightmare!

keeper


41 posted on 03/27/2008 4:54:04 PM PDT by keeper53 (McCain/ ?? '08)
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To: keeper53

I would lean to Gore as their choice but it is just a feeling. Anyone that thinks the “Party Elders” can get the Witch to step aside is out of their minds.


42 posted on 03/27/2008 4:58:30 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: hunter112
I don't know how much juice Hillary will have left by convention time. If she does great in the remaining races she has more power for a floor fight, if not it will fizzle.

As much as I wish otherwise, if Obama arrives at the convention with more delegates and popular vote he will win. I do not see the Democrats as so stupid that they will destroy the party for Hillary Clinton's benefit.

Another Upside possibility is that as Hillary trys to go against the delegate count and popular vote she will damage herself fatally. She isn't Nixon, she won't come back, too many people hate her ass and that will get worse with a convention floor fight.

43 posted on 03/27/2008 4:59:06 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: tet68
The “Re-Create ‘68” nutburgers rioting outside and a credentials fight on the floor inside. It don't get any better than this!
44 posted on 03/27/2008 4:59:25 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Thinking about the best possible outcome under the present circumstances, it would be Hillary stealing the nomination by manipulating Super Delegates, losing to McCain and alienating the Black vote in the process insuring she could never get the nomination again.
I think it would be just as well if McCain nominated a black conservative VP who belongs to an integrated church. That would guarantee the nomination of Obama by the Democratic convention - and that would guarantee a blowout anti-Wright vote.

The existence of a black on the Republican ticket would negate any white guilt in voting against Obama, who would be reduced to his black racist base - a blowout of historic proportions. The Democratic Party would have to go into dry dock. Of course, the fact that a President McCain would be nearly as bad as a Democrat would cause a powerful and perhaps successful primary challenge in '12, leading to a complete political realignment in America.


45 posted on 03/27/2008 5:00:35 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The Democratic Party is only a front for the political establishment in America - Big Journalism.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Good for Hillary!. I’m proud of her and behind her 100%! She deserves the Democrat nomination! She has a right to it! She should be the Democrat nominee! She should fight tooth and nail for it and NEVER give up! Only Hillary! can lead this country in the right direction!

(May I please have some more popcorn?)


46 posted on 03/27/2008 5:03:07 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: GreenHornet

I agree. Penn. conservative should vote for O. That would keep it close and not let Hil get a mandate of sorts. but I am still ticked at what they did to what they did to their splendid ex senator.


47 posted on 03/27/2008 5:06:24 PM PDT by HChampagne (I am not an AARP member and never will be.)
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To: colorado tanker
t is simply not acceptable for a major political party to disenfranchise its delegates from two major states, leaving party members in those states with no voice in the Presidential nomination. Something has to be done to give those members representation.

The States were told what would happen if they moved their primaries up and they did it anyway.

I have no sympathy for them as life just ain't full of do overs.

48 posted on 03/27/2008 5:11:58 PM PDT by Eaker (2 Thessalonians 3:10 ... He that will not work, neither should he eat.)
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To: colorado tanker
Something has to be done to give those members representation.

No, it doesn't.

There are consequences to breaking rules, as all adults need to learn.

49 posted on 03/27/2008 5:39:28 PM PDT by Republic If You Can Keep It
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To: governsleastgovernsbest




RUSH: ...I just got a flash e-mail from my friend Andy McCarthy, who used to be in the US attorney's office, Southern District of New York, in Manhattan. He says, "You know, I'm trying to understand the lefty claim that you and the OpChaos voters ought to be indicted. If Hillary says that even the pledge of the pledged delegates is meaningless, if the votes that have happened so far don't mean anything because delegates can vote for whoever they want to vote for, what the hell difference does it make a who you tell people to vote for? What difference does it make who the voters vote for is Hillary is running around saying whoever they vote for doesn't matter because the delegates can do whatever they want independent of the voters? So if they're going to indict you, shouldn't they indict the pledged delegates who conspire with Hillary to switch their votes? Shouldn't they indict Hillary for suggesting the votes that have already been cast don't mean anything? Why is your fraud the only indictable fraud in this thing?" (laughing) It's an excellent point. Mrs. Clinton, one more sound bite. Greta Van Susteren says, "Well, what do you see as the numbers there? Any thoughts in Pennsylvania is that?"

HILLARY: I don't make predictions, I just want to do as well as I can. You see, what I think what's important about this, Greta, is people don't want this to be over. There was some poll today somebody told me about where, you know, 22% of the people said I should quit and 22% of the people said Obama should quit and 62% said let it go on. That's what people are telling me. That is what we have to do. Let the voters have a chance to be heard. Nobody should be, you know, writing obituaries on this race, because it is a long way from being over.

RUSH: Well, back to Andy McCarthy's point. She's saying, "Let the voters be heard," but what does it matter what the voters say? What does it matter what the voters vote if the pledged delegates are not pledged and if they can vote for whatever they want? The message to take from this, ladies and gentlemen, is that none of this matters to the Clintons. All of this is a formality. What happens in Pennsylvania is a formality. What happens in North Carolina, what happens in Indiana, what happens in Puerto Rico, it's a formality. What she's telling you is that votes in the Democrat Party do not matter. They have another scheme. They have another plan. They want this to go to a credentials fight at the convention -- and when that happens, folks, that is nirvana. A credentials fight at the Democrat convention could extend Operation Chaos all the way through the general election!

The Kneecapping of Barack Obama
50 posted on 03/27/2008 5:48:00 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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