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New Match-Ups Show McCain WEAKENING Against CLINTON, Obama
AHN ^ | March 27, 2008 | Kris Alingod

Posted on 03/27/2008 6:08:27 PM PDT by rface

The Public Policy Institute of California said McCain would lose to Obama, 40 to 49 percent, and would also lose to Clinton, with 43 to 46 percent......

Washington, D.C. (AHN) - Three new general election surveys on Thursday showed Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) continues to lose ground against his two possible rivals for the presidency. Match-ups between the presumptive Republican nominee and either Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) or Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) have resulted in stalemates in recent weeks. Also significant is that Obama is once again coming out ahead of Clinton in a surveys against McCain.

The Public Policy Institute of California said McCain would lose to Obama, 40 to 49 percent, and would also lose to Clinton, with 43 to 46 percent. However, the fact that voters may find Obama to be a stronger candidate against McCain than Clinton, could have an effect on those Democrats who have yet to vote in the primary, as well as undecided superdelegates.

The Republican nominee likewise loses to both Democrats in a Pew Research survey taken between March 19 and March 22. The poll found McCain was defeated by Obama 43 to 49 percent and by Clinton 44 to 49 percent.

Quinnipiac University, on the other hand, said Obama has an almost 20-point lead over McCain, where he beat the Republican 52 to 35 percent. Against Clinton, McCain wins with 45 to 42 percent.


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This is a DIRECT result of LIMBAUGH's

OPERATION CHAOS......

I knew it would BACKFIRE!!

Thanks A LOT RUSH.....YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE US LOSE!!! ..... Big TIME.

Rush ..... if you are reading this.....you are a CLYMER!

1 posted on 03/27/2008 6:08:29 PM PDT by rface
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To: rface

Oh fiddle dee dee....

No way McCain will lose.

Alot of Dems will vote McCain


2 posted on 03/27/2008 6:10:50 PM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: rface

IMO, this is a result of McCain sounding like a Liberal DemoRAT RINO. He’s disenfranchised the Republican base with his “in your face” moderate BS. Couple that with his lack of gonads to go on the offensive against the two Liberal Socialist and a GOP leadership that continues to have no gonads, no spine, and no guts for the past seven years!


3 posted on 03/27/2008 6:12:22 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: rface
Its not a good year to be a Republican - especially one of the RINO persuasion. Still, the Democrats have no nominee. They may not have one by the time the Democrats meet in Denver. I would say Operation Chaos accomplished its mission of undermining the Democrats. We can all wish a pox on the Clinton and Obama camps.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 03/27/2008 6:13:12 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: rface
Rush isn't doing anything at all. McCain is a weak candidate to begin with and has trouble with his own base let alone the undecided voter.

It's a long time until election day. It will be a hotly contested election. We already knew we were in trouble after we saw the nominees.

5 posted on 03/27/2008 6:14:01 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: JaneNC

these people are smoking crack


6 posted on 03/27/2008 6:14:06 PM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: rface

Simmer down. The democrat party is filled with folks who cannot abide blacks. They will never tell this to a pollster. The PC thing to do is to lie.


7 posted on 03/27/2008 6:15:50 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: JaneNC
Quinnipiac University, on the other hand, said Obama has an almost 20-point lead over McCain, where he beat the Republican 52 to 35 percent

I so believe this..... It is ALL BECAUSE of Rush. My Lord .... I used to love that man, now all he is .... is a big ol' CLYMER!

8 posted on 03/27/2008 6:16:39 PM PDT by rface
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To: rface
Thanks A LOT RUSH.....YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE US LOSE!!! ..... Big TIME.

We've already lost the presidency... a long time ago. But how would Rush be responsible for this? Even if Republicans were not voting for Mrs. Bill Clinton, according to these polls McCain would still be losing to Obama.

9 posted on 03/27/2008 6:18:14 PM PDT by pnh102
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To: rface

How does what Rush did affect Obama’s winning over McCain?


10 posted on 03/27/2008 6:18:24 PM PDT by paudio (Democrats' Demand: Make Every (Superdelegate) Vote Count!)
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To: rface
Rush IS out to lunch, of that there is little doubt in my mind.

That McCain is actually losing is not a surprise either. Hell, this old fart cannot even read the Prompter and, even when he does, he is flat and sleep inducing. IMO we are screwed no matter who ultimately wins this thing.

11 posted on 03/27/2008 6:20:37 PM PDT by TCats (The Clintons Are Not Just Wrong - They Are Certifiable AND Dangerous! See my Page)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Just had the dachshund neutered (sorry, guys!). Maybe I should send his little “pecans” up to Washington? There’s obviously some people who need ‘em up there.


12 posted on 03/27/2008 6:21:00 PM PDT by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
"The democrat party is filled with folks who cannot abide blacks. "

Yup, I worked with a bunch of haters in Chicago. They talked like KKK people. But their cars had Gore stickers, and they HATED Bush almost as much as they hate black people.

13 posted on 03/27/2008 6:21:23 PM PDT by cookcounty (Obama reach across the aisle? He's so far to the left, he'll need a roadmap to FIND the aisle.)
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To: rface

And there are other polls today that show McCain +10 against Obama and Hillary. These are BS.


14 posted on 03/27/2008 6:22:26 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: rface

Obama will win the Primary and lose the General...
bet the house.

I don’t know any “clear-thinking” white folks who will go into the voting booth and vote for an anti-American anti-white racist...
remember I said “clear-thinking” white folks which excludes Leftist ‘Rats. LOL
Even my liberal white relatives have problems with Obama, his “pastor” and his “church!”


15 posted on 03/27/2008 6:22:50 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: rface

Why are you blaming Rush for a 20 point Obama lead?

Operation Chaos is pushing crossover voting for Clinton.

What you say makes no sense.


16 posted on 03/27/2008 6:22:53 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: rface
DO you believe a faxed press release from a left wing front group ???
Don't fall these non stop phony polls from left wing DNC front groups !
Check out the leftists running scam. We are going to awash in leftist phony policy groups pushing phony polls.
17 posted on 03/27/2008 6:23:33 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: rface

Democrats are sitting ducks, but our side won't shoot.

RUSH:...Senator McCain's speech yesterday turned off anybody who believes in conservative principles, and everybody who's sick and tired of pandering to the hate-America crowd. If you don't like calling them the hate-America crowd, just pandering to the people who think that we're the problem in the world. We are the solution! The United States is the solution to the problems of the world. We are not the cause. And pandering to these people even if it's the League of Democracies, doing so by accepting their intonations on global warming and all these other left-wing issues to show that, "Well, we're big and we're powerful, but we're not going to squash and stomp you. To show you how cooperative we are, we want you to like us and so forth." So what's the point? What's the point of pandering to this bunch if what's in our best interests is subordinated? And I'm telling you, it is not in our best interests to have a president of the United States that accepts the hoax of manmade global warming and the "repairs," the "fixes" because it's economic devastation and it is loss of freedom. It is loss of liberty, and it is expansion of government.

No serious conservative, either, wants to close Guantanamo Bay and give terrors continual constitutional rights. There is no conservative that wants to do this! No serious conservative wants to empower the federal bureaucracy to run private industries, which, when you strip it all away, is what global warming is ultimately about: federal bureaucracies to run private industries. No serious conservative believes we need to create more international organizations that empower them to make decisions about American sovereignty. We don't need a League of Democracies! We need the United States of America leading, not subordinating, not pandering. I don't know how many of you have been convinced that Senator McCain is serious about homeland security. I don't mean Iraq. I mean securing the border, which he's opposed for 24 years. I don't know how many people are convinced about this. Close Gitmo? Interrogate the enemy to prevent attacks on us? Let me try to explain it this way in my remaining brief broadcast moments here before the break. McCain is in the worst position to take advantage of the internal fighting on the Democrat side, born of Operation Chaos.

If the GOP had a nominee who had a consistent record -- and I know "if" is for children. I'm just doing this to illustrate. If the Republican Party had a nominee who had a consistent record on conservative policies and principles, not just good here and maybe awful there; that candidate right now would be kicking the crap out of these leftists in the polls, because that candidate would be kicking the crap out of these people in the midst of their own infighting and pointing it out! That's the kind of candidate who inspires and unites. I know Senator McCain thinks he's going to unite and energize his base, but I don't know how much he really cares about the base, after having heard that speech yesterday; talking about appealing to Europeans, closing Guantanamo Bay, managing the private sector. If that kind of talk is what he thinks is necessary to be elected, well, we'll just have to wait and see. Some might say his base is not us. Some might say his base is moderates and independents, and he cares a great deal about that base.

He will court that base lavishly. Now, the war on terrorism not only includes the battle of Iraq. It's broader than that. We're fighting worldwide terrorism. We have to deal with this enemy in Iran, Pakistan, Africa, and it's not clear how Senator McCain would do that. It's not clear how McCain would strengthen the military. I haven't heard enough about how he's going to deal with military spending, whether he's going to increase it. In many years that he was in Congress he spent far more time arguing for terrorist rights than increasing military spending, such as this, "We've gotta stop torture, no waterboarding," and all of this sort of thing. I mention all this because I want you to know that I understand how everybody feels after that speech yesterday, and it is problematic. I'll tell you what I'm bouncing off of. We had a call in the last hour who said that Operation Chaos is going to give us the exact opposite of what we want, and I disagree with that.

Operation Chaos is providing a golden opportunity here to wipe out both these candidates and this party, because the Democrat Party is exposing itself once and for all in full color, 24/7, for what it is. It can't unify anybody. It's filled with a bunch of racists, sexists, liars, insincere, inexperienced, incompetent people. That's what the Democrat Party is showing everybody -- and Operation Chaos was designed to make sure that Obama did not get momentum after Ohio and Texas, which would have caused party leaders to lean on the Clintons even more. They probably wouldn't have gone out, who knows, but that's the past and we can't rewrite it. The fact is, she won Ohio and Texas. That has motivated her to stay in, and now you've got Clinton threatening to kneecap the guy, do a "Tonya Harding." Well, the Clinton campaign. Barack is now responding. This is a golden, golden, golden opportunity -- and I, frankly, I scour the news. As you people know, I am relentless in show prep. Most of my waking hours are spent paying attention, and I'll be damned if I can find out from anybody at a high level of leadership in the Republican Party just what the hell they stand for today.(cont.)

McCain, American Exceptionalism, Democrats, and Operation Chaos
18 posted on 03/27/2008 6:25:18 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: mplsconservative

The Rush haters have no idea how worthless McCain is. They blame McCain’s weakness on Rush. They deny like a liberal.


19 posted on 03/27/2008 6:25:57 PM PDT by bmwcyle (McCain has yet to give conservatives a reason to vote for him)
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To: rface

Back away from the bong dude. Polls in March are worthless and don’t deserve the importance you’re attaching to it.


20 posted on 03/27/2008 6:27:44 PM PDT by libs_kma (The land of the free, because of the brave)
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To: bmwcyle

Indeed. I’ve noticed that as well.


21 posted on 03/27/2008 6:28:05 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: Nachum

This is the WORST time to have a weak Republican run against these Demons. A good solid, conservative Republican would wipe them out.


22 posted on 03/27/2008 6:28:08 PM PDT by unkus
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Given his recent outreach to Europe, it is time to call McCain what he is: Faux Republican.


23 posted on 03/27/2008 6:28:10 PM PDT by csmusaret (John McCain is the evil of three lessers)
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To: Miss Didi
I agree with Rush. McCain just isn't rallying the party's base behind him. If he loses, its not conservatives' fault. You would think a month after wrapping up the nomination, John McCain would finally get it. Instead, conservatives are depressed and terribly anxious. The polls show us why.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

24 posted on 03/27/2008 6:28:16 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: rface
Hello, check out this Left wing Bay area nutter lawyer group that is faxing this fraudulent poll !

This so called Policy group is a pack of UC Berkley leftist trial lawyers ! Go to there web site !

25 posted on 03/27/2008 6:28:54 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: goldstategop
You would think someone at the RNC ($$$) would make him “get it!” What's he going to do to combat the Dems’ millions?
26 posted on 03/27/2008 6:30:20 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: rface

This Alingod writer is a former policy advisor to Clinton. This AHN site is a shill for Hillary. Check out the pictures in their one minute poll. They use McCain’s “popeye” photo.


27 posted on 03/27/2008 6:30:27 PM PDT by Soliton (McCain couldn't even win a McCain look-alike contest)
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To: goldstategop

Suckers !
Its a UC Berkley leftist lawyer group poll !!
Its a Dem front group scam !


28 posted on 03/27/2008 6:30:34 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: TCats
McCain really blew it by his support for Muslim extremists. During the election pictures of creepy Cindy meeting with the Muslim will certainly be circulated.
29 posted on 03/27/2008 6:31:16 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Nachum
McCain is a weak candidate to begin with and has trouble with his own base let alone the undecided voter.

There it is - McCain will get trounced in the general election because of who he is.

He will lose to Hillary or he will lose to The Obamasiah, but lose he will.

If the powers in the Republican party had any sense at all they would convince McCain to drop out with a sudden illness to make way for a candidate with a chance of winning.

Whan a candidate's game plan is to win by attracting democrat voters because one third of his own party rejects him the end is clear to all with a lick of sense.


30 posted on 03/27/2008 6:31:24 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: rface
Lighten up Frances.
31 posted on 03/27/2008 6:32:26 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Everytime McCain reaches out to conservatives, conservatives get poked in the eye.)
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To: rface
Well, before Mrs. Clinton gets to measure her oval office drapery, she ought to be measuring her waist to hip ratio.

After reading about the study that came out today concerning belly fat raising the risk of dementia, along with heart problems and diabetes, I think this harridan hag is in for some real mental issues judging from the size and scope of her stomach.

Oh, and ditto, on Rush Limbaugh's Operation Chaos...it is backfiring big time but I heard him say on today's program when asked by a caller who he'd like to see win the democrat nomination, he said Obama. So it's good to see Rush's Chaos Strategy is just as chaotic as the democrat party.

32 posted on 03/27/2008 6:33:02 PM PDT by harpo11 (Rush, had better have a back-up strategy just in case the third term grabbing Clintons win the WH.)
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To: mplsconservative

I love people who make the best out of a bad situation. I also respect people who can honestly look at the bad situation objectively. These people control misguided anger. These people have a handle on reality. Freepers like rface and too many others have lost touch with their minds. They need to look in a mirror before they get on Rush.


33 posted on 03/27/2008 6:33:32 PM PDT by bmwcyle (McCain has yet to give conservatives a reason to vote for him)
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To: rface

I find these poll results hard to believe. There are a number of State polls that show McCain running ahead in battleground States.


34 posted on 03/27/2008 6:36:38 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: rface

LOSE McPain!I don’t want the idiot Gringo Juan”nasty” McPain to win!He will destroy the country and the GOP. I will hope for 2012.


35 posted on 03/27/2008 6:37:43 PM PDT by johna61
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To: JaneNC
The McCain haters are now peddling a phony poll cooked up by UC Berkley leftist lawyer front group for the Dem party!
The McCain haters are getting desperate !
36 posted on 03/27/2008 6:37:46 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: Dante3
McCain is only slightly better than either of the Dems from where I stand. None of them are up to facing the problems this Country has. McCain's eventual running mate may provide a spark but until then I'm not optimistic about anything.
37 posted on 03/27/2008 6:38:55 PM PDT by TCats (The Clintons Are Not Just Wrong - They Are Certifiable AND Dangerous! See my Page)
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To: popdonnelly
Again this so called public policy group is a UC Berkley leftist lawyer group that been doing theses phony polls for years !! Check out there website .You have been suckered by a Calif leftist trial lawyer group with a fax machine !
38 posted on 03/27/2008 6:40:15 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: fishergirl
they need a backbone first, to stand up straight.

THEN they will need the pecans, to push the agenda.

39 posted on 03/27/2008 6:40:41 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: rface

Pew Research? Isn’t the Pew Charitable Trust the one that finances left-wing drivel on public television? The outfit is obviously in the hands of left-of-center people.


40 posted on 03/27/2008 6:40:41 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: TCats; rface
President McDole should have known at 71 years old not to bite off more than he could chew. I didn't expect him to win to begin with, but after Obama's racist church membership was revealed, McDole was a shoe-in,

except he hasn't picked a Vice President, and he is slow to put liberals like Obama and Clinton in their place. His to lose, and McDole is well on his way back to the Senate with another loser.
41 posted on 03/27/2008 6:41:31 PM PDT by Son House (Democrat High Tax Rates Suppress Opportunity and Jobs..)
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To: rface

Did anybody notice this is a survey by an organization called PPI. It’s the Cali chapter but still. Also who in the world is AHN?

I’ve never heard of a poll by the California PPI or one published by AHN before.

I’m always attentive to such stories but cannot be greatly concerned by a poll with such a questionable pedigree.


42 posted on 03/27/2008 6:43:33 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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To: rface

I call BS.

Hillary isn’t gaining on anyone this week with her Bosnia adventures on every news show. She has looked nothing but ridiculous and it is impossible for her to be gaining on anyone.


43 posted on 03/27/2008 6:43:48 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: rface

BS.... This is great news, it will force McNut to pick a CONSERVATIVE VP to get his support back up.


44 posted on 03/27/2008 6:45:31 PM PDT by bigjoesaddle (Toby Keith doesn't want to be fed, Toby Keith wants to HUNT!)
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To: jimfree

Its a UC Berkley leftist lawyer front group .
Its faxes these Dem party polls all the time to the media .
Its garbage !


45 posted on 03/27/2008 6:47:58 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: ExTexasRedhead

McCain has been extremely annoying ... that latest speech was cringe making.

However, I still think he will win. He will move right if he sees it’s necessary and no conservative will vote for the dem candidate, whichever it is.

At the same time, I do see some dems voting for McCain if they get mad enough at their side.


47 posted on 03/27/2008 6:49:02 PM PDT by altura
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To: ExTexasRedhead

ExTxRedhead

It’s a lot worse than his “sounding like a Liberal”! McCain hates patriots like us. He’s a shill for the Big Business lobby. He’s supposedly “a hero” from Vietnam, yet he’s about as treasonous as they come by trying to dissolve our Southern Border and refusing to secure it. Those saying, “Well, he’s never been President and therefore has never had the power to secure the Border”, I say BS!! He wouldn’t want it closed and secured if his life depended on it. He never saw an illegal alien he didn’t like. He wants to continue the war in Iraq for decades and he doesn’t care how many American lives are lost in the process or what such an extended war would do to the economy.

McCain married into the Mob, the AZ Mob to be exact. He dumped his devoted wife who waited for him for years to return from Vietnam for this mobster’s wife because he needed the money to run for the Senate. He’s confrontational and hardly “Presidential”.

He may try to improve his image with conservatives by picking Romney as VP. I’ve heard from some conservatives that this would not make them vote for him.


48 posted on 03/27/2008 6:50:24 PM PDT by levotb
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To: rface

i will tell everyone whatis wrong with this article. If you check the polls on the hedgehog report (link below). You will see that this poll is for the state of California (the author lets you assume it is nationwide). I think McCain down 8 points in Califronia to Obama and trailing Hillary by three would be a sign of strength. wouldn’t it! See the link below.

http://www.hedgehogreport.com/polls2008.php?state=CA

and chill out.


49 posted on 03/27/2008 6:51:27 PM PDT by bilhosty
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To: popdonnelly
Pew was very accurate in 2004. they predicted the exact outcome of the elections:

Last Pew pre-election poll: Bush 51%, Kerry 48%. Actual election result: Bush 51%, Kerry 48%.

Although to be fair, Rasmussen also predicted the exact outcome of this election, and this pollster shows Obama trailing McCain by 10% as we speak.

50 posted on 03/27/2008 7:01:28 PM PDT by reagandissiple
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