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5 Ex-Chief Diplomats: Close Guantanamo [and open a dialogue with Iran........]
Brietbart ^

Posted on 03/27/2008 6:12:07 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

5 Ex-Chief Diplomats: Close Guantanamo Mar 27 08:46 PM US/Eastern By GREG BLUESTEIN Associated Press Writer ATHENS, Ga. (AP) - Five former U.S. secretaries of state on Thursday urged the next presidential administration to close the Guantanamo Bay prison camp and open a dialogue with Iran.

The former chiefs of American diplomacy, who served in Democratic and Republican administrations, reached a consensus on the two issues at a conference in Athens aimed at giving the next president some bipartisan foreign policy advice. Each of them said shuttering the prison camp in Cuba would bolster America's image abroad.

"It says to the world: 'We are now going back to our traditional respective forms of dealing with people who potentially committed crimes,'" said Colin Powell, who served as President Bush's first secretary of state.

Powell was joined by Henry Kissinger, James Baker III, Warren Christopher and Madeleine Albright, who sat in a round-table discussion sponsored by the University of Georgia at a sold-out conference center in downtown Athens.

Kissinger called Guantanamo a "blot on us" and agreed it should be closed, but wondered aloud about the consequences of a closure.

Baker, a lawyer who served in President George H.W. Bush's Cabinet, said he has struggled with its legal implications.

"It gives us a very, very bad name, not just internationally," he said. "I have a great deal of difficulty understanding how we can hold someone, pick someone up, particularly someone who might be an American citizen—even if they were caught somewhere abroad, acting against American interests—and hold them without ever giving them an opportunity to appear before a magistrate."

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Cuba; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: albright; baker; gimo; gitmo; gwot; handwringers; kissinger; powell
Oh the hand wringing.......give me a break....
1 posted on 03/27/2008 6:12:07 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Stay in your retirement and shut up.


2 posted on 03/27/2008 6:13:17 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: Sub-Driver
The European weenies and the rest of the loud people only like us when we subjugate our interests to theirs. That's why they love the Demoncrats so much. The Dems always whine about us and apologize for us. Feh!
3 posted on 03/27/2008 6:14:58 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Sub-Driver

4 posted on 03/27/2008 6:19:30 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Sub-Driver

They better just shut up and fade away , their expertise, skills and abilities have already been witnessed and judged. Why listen too em make same mistakes over and over again ?:o)


5 posted on 03/27/2008 6:21:12 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Execution chamber after the last terrorist uses this room......
6 posted on 03/27/2008 6:22:06 PM PDT by redreno
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s what diplomats do and will continue to do forever even though it bears no fruit whatsoever. What, if anything, has that “illustrious” group accomplished? And puleeeze don’t mention any Nobel prizes or other awards. What diplomatic problems did they solve?


7 posted on 03/27/2008 6:26:16 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Diplomats think the answer to every situation is diplomacy, just like warriors think the answer to every situation is war.


8 posted on 03/27/2008 6:30:03 PM PDT by oldbrowser
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To: Sub-Driver

My problem with closing Guantanamo is that many of the people in it will go back to what they were doing before - planning to violently attack American interests and American citizens. I believe you close POW camps when the enemy is defeated.


9 posted on 03/27/2008 6:33:42 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Probably the same RINOs who are supporting the pro illegal gringo Juan McPain for el presidente.


10 posted on 03/27/2008 6:35:32 PM PDT by johna61
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To: Sub-Driver
"It says to the world: 'We are now going back to our traditional respective forms of dealing with people who potentially committed crimes,'" said Colin Powell, who served as President Bush's first secretary of state."

Wow, that's really uhh....stupid. Well mr. powell, you were hired because you are black, albright because she was a woman, the other 3 have no excuse, they are just idiots.

Appeasing our enemies doesn't work. They want to kill us. Your job is to convince them not to, otherwise they meet the US Armed Forces.

11 posted on 03/27/2008 6:40:33 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: Sub-Driver

Closing Gitmo according to these 5 bipartisian smooks...? would improve our standing in the world??????????? Yep, as long as we kiss both “cheeks” of the enemy, we earn the love and admiration of the world????????? BULL!!!!!!!!!!! These 5 brave souls can kiss my grits. They have the courage of a cooked noodle....spineless.


12 posted on 03/27/2008 6:41:14 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: Sub-Driver

Wonder if McCain put them up to it????


13 posted on 03/27/2008 6:46:31 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character; Being Coddled Destroys Character)
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To: Sub-Driver
The only dialogue needed with Iran is the type Slim Pickens had with the Russkies in "Dr Strangelove":
14 posted on 03/27/2008 7:32:56 PM PDT by Nabber
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To: Sub-Driver

no


15 posted on 03/27/2008 7:33:23 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Sub-Driver
Each of them said shuttering the prison camp in Cuba would bolster America's image abroad.

Wow. One can only wonder how much damage these five pieces of sh!+ did to America in the name of appeasing a loud handful of Euro-socialist malcontents, anarchists, and anti-capitalists. "Image abroad". (spit)

16 posted on 03/27/2008 7:37:16 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Sub-Driver

and hold them without ever giving them an opportunity to appear before a magistrate.”
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Wow, war has sure changed over time. I guess POWs are now considered alleged POWs as it has to be proved in a court that their classification as POWs is valid. Then maybe we can require all soldiers and officers involved on our side to be present at the trials and present evidence. We’ll just take our witnesses off the battlefield to ensure a fair trial for each and every one of the enemy combatants.
Hmmmmmmmm, the take no prisoner approach doesn’t seem so far fetched after all. Naturally in order to ensure fairness investigation staff must be flown to the battlefield to question witnesses for the defense and those people would have to be flown to the United States to testify, housed, fed and given immunity for their own crimes. Courts would be backed up for years. I guess we’d house and feed witnesses for however many years is necessary.


17 posted on 03/27/2008 7:45:43 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: Sub-Driver

I’ll go along with that.

Close Gitmo and let the inmates swim home.

And open a dialogue with Iran. My preferred opening would be something along the lines of “Give us back our embassy, you pig-humping [Monica Lewinsky]s!”


18 posted on 03/27/2008 7:51:11 PM PDT by RichInOC (...William Frank Buckley, Jr., November 24, 1925-February 27, 2008, R.I.P.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Each of them said shuttering the prison camp in Cuba would bolster America’s image abroad.
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Who abroad? I couldn’t care less about the “abroads” I know about. Some of the others of Europe can kiss my behind the next time they need to be saved. I can say this with some pride. My image of most of the “abroad” is just as negative as theirs is of America. It sickens me that we’re still defending and supporting much of the “abroad” while they bash us at every opportunity. F***em.


19 posted on 03/27/2008 7:54:57 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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"It says to the world: 'We are now going back to our traditional respective forms of dealing with people who potentially committed crimes,'" said Colin Powell, who served as President Bush's first secretary of state.

So the Klintoon doctrine of terrorism as crime holds with Colin Powell. Some general he is.

20 posted on 03/27/2008 7:59:55 PM PDT by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: Sub-Driver
This article reveals a sad truth. Foggy Bottom -- our diplomatic corps -- is, more often than not, an enemy of the US in international relations. We must fight our way through our own troops, to get to the front and engage the real enemy.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "The Uber-Nigerian Scam"

Help a Freeper into Congress.

21 posted on 03/27/2008 8:00:43 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob ( www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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This is not showing weakness.

It clearly is weakness and will be perceived in that manner.


22 posted on 03/27/2008 8:06:20 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: Sub-Driver

“It says to the world: ‘We are now going back to our traditional respective forms of dealing with people who potentially committed crimes,’” said Colin Powell

Oh, were back to the old crime thing again, a nuanced police action.

Good grief, if we had a pair, we’d expand that island paradise to include the present occupants families’.

Just another example of the sign of the times, and how America has left Reason and legitimate interests, behind.


23 posted on 03/27/2008 8:20:36 PM PDT by Harrius Magnus (Pucker up Mo, and your dhimmi Leftist freaks, here comes your Jizya!)
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To: Sub-Driver

even if they were caught somewhere abroad, acting against American interests—and hold them without ever giving them an opportunity to appear before a magistrate.”


Someone said the same thing to me a couple of weeks ago...he was drunk.


24 posted on 03/27/2008 8:48:04 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (The faithful will keep their heads down, their powder dry and hammer at the enemies flanks.)
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To: Dahoser

Let’s call them the Five Stooges. Powell shows his weakness after the 1991 Gulf War fiasco on his part.
Christopher was always a dumbo and weak sister.
Albright just isn’t. A total loser.
Baker - sleazy and possibly anti-semitic (according to some insiders.) Just not trustworthy
Kissinger - betrayed us in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. He should never be trusted, even with your dog. The man who brought him to Washington later wished he hadn’t (personal communication from FK).

I suggest a long tour of GITMO for all of them, and throw away the key. But instead of orange outfits, let’s make them YELLOW!


25 posted on 03/27/2008 10:18:30 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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