Skip to comments.Crusaders 'Left Genetic Legacy'
Posted on 03/27/2008 6:29:52 PM PDT by blam
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I had my DNA checked by these folks. My yDNA is R1b and my mtDNA is 'V'.
Did they trace you back to anybody of significance?
Crusader genetic ping!
There were stories of Lebanese and Christian Arabs with the name William within the past century. Now we know where it came from. GGGG-Grandpa WAS named William, who came to save Christian Lebanon ... didn’t save the country, but did add to the Christian population.
Is this anything like "Presidue"?
Science. Is that what you told your wife?
I'm descended from some of the Nordic invaders of the British Isles.
I found out that my dad's mother (Mrs Smith, mtDNA U5a1a) is related to Cheddar Man.
Also, we were suprised to find out that my mother comes from a line of Skolt Sami.(Laplander)
Is that Huma?
Hell no. Huma is a horse, btw, see the Cedar on her leg, no way would Huma wear one.
It’s “So hat”.
Sorry, sorry didn’t mean nothing by it. Just asking.
I hope I’m related to somebody cool in history.
Thank you for your tireless work advancing knowledge.
He shoots, he scores!
So might you be Irish?
I love science!
A little trans-generational graffiti is even more intriguing.
Definitely ~ an excellent survey.
The Irish are R1b DYS390-24...I'm R1b DYS390-23 which indicates that I came from the Norway/Denmark region but wound up in Ireland.
That is pretty cool. From what I understand, in spite of the long presence of the Vikings in Ireland, they left very little genetic evidence.
The results are interesting although all they do is verify what they already knew. They came from the Inner Hebrides, but before that they can be traced to Scandinavia.
Of course it would do me no good to test as my Mother was a member of the clan.
Yep—that’s me—the 390-24. Further, I understand that the DYS-392-14 (also in my haplotype) is particularly Irish.
“Scientists have detected the faint genetic traces left by medieval crusaders in the Middle East.”
FAINT genetic traces, my foot. Visit Turkey, Syria and the Palestinian area in general and you’ll meet people with blue eyes and blond hair. These are the areas that were in the path that the Crusaders took on their way to the Holy Land. Does anyone think that the Crusaders practiced celibacy?
Great Pics. Looks like anywhere (college town) USA.
Hope the muzzies don’t drag them back to the barbarian 7 th century
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There is an important Lebanese Christian family named Franjieh. I remember reading once that the name derives from “Franks” (the general term for people from Western Europe) and that they believed themselves descended from the Crusaders. The DNA results would tend to bear that out (although I don’t know if any Franjiehs were included in the study).
So, you are typically British/NW European stock.
Both R1b and V come from the Basque area Franco-Iberian ice age refuge after the last glacial maximum, V beginning around 16k year ago and spreading north along the coast from the southern refuge after the LGM. V is not as common as the H haplogroup but R1b has about 90% frequency in the Basque region and spread from the southern refuge about the same time.
All of this is from "The Origins of the British" by Stephen Oppenheimer, part of my current reading list.
There were blue eyes and blond haired people near and around the Mediterranean long before the Crusaders showed up.
I think we do too — Nordic invaders in Britain. Last time we were there, we stayed at a B&B in Northumberland. The guy there looked EXACTLY like my Norwegian grandfather. They could have been brothers. I thot, ‘Hmmm, and the Vikings stopped here, for sure.’
Thanks. I know all that, lol. I read Oppenheimer's book a couple years ago along with Bryan Syke's book Saxons, Vikings And Celts.
IMO, Oppenheimer's book is much better than Sykes' book.
BTW, 52% of the Skolt Sami are haplogroup 'V'....other Sami groups are U5b.
18,000 Year Ago
12,000 Years Ago
I knew a Christian palestinian with a surname of Francis. Yep, he claimed descent from the Frankish crusaders. They are still around. His uncle was named George.
The Blonde headed guy in ABBA looks exactly like my oldest brother. (Bless his soul)
Yeah. I see why the Crusaders decided to leave their Y chromosomes there.
According to the RLDS genealogy web site, I’m descended from the bog man.
Bog man — you are so funny.
I have DYS392-13.
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Thanks,...I may have to check my DNA...
A King of Norway, Harald Hardrade (hard to “read”) actually served in the Vangarian guard before being called back to Norway to be King.
No, I’m serial. I just checked my data base but I can’t find his name. He only has one and he died about the time that the Romans invaded and it said he was sacrificed by his people and thrown into the bog to keep the Romans away. I guess that didn’t work out for him but he did manage to reproduce first.
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