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Getting Mrs. Clinton [Peggy Noonan]
The Wall Street Journal ^ | March 28, 2008 | PEGGY NOONAN

Posted on 03/27/2008 8:02:30 PM PDT by Aristotelian

I think we've reached a signal point in the campaign. This is the point where, with Hillary Clinton, either you get it or you don't. There's no dodging now. You either understand the problem with her candidacy, or you don't. You either understand who she is, or not. And if you don't, after 16 years of watching Clintonian dramas, you probably never will.

That's what the Bosnia story was about. Her fictions about dodging bullets on the tarmac -- and we have to hope they were lies, because if they weren't, if she thought what she was saying was true, we are in worse trouble than we thought -- either confirmed what you already knew (she lies as a matter of strategy, or, as William Safire said in 1996, by nature) or revealed in an unforgettable way (videotape! Smiling girl in pigtails offering flowers!) what you feared (that she lies more than is humanly usual, even politically usual).

But either you get it now or you never will. That's the importance of the Bosnia tape.

Many in the press get it, to their dismay, and it makes them uncomfortable, for it sours life to have a person whose character you feel you cannot admire play such a large daily role in your work. But I think it's fair to say of the establishment media at this point that it is well populated by people who feel such a lack of faith in Mrs. Clinton's words and ways that it amounts to an aversion. They are offended by how she and her staff operate. They try hard to be fair. They constantly have to police themselves.

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To: the invisib1e hand
It's different with the Clintons they are congenital liars. They lie when they don't have to. It's who they are.
21 posted on 03/27/2008 8:36:28 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: killermosquito

Hillary, crawl back under the Little Rock you crawled out from under and take your husband with you.”

Are we assuming Little Rock wants them back?????


22 posted on 03/27/2008 8:37:03 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Congressman Billybob

“I am seeking to represent the 11th District of North Carolina in Congress, and knock Heath Shuler, the accidental Democrat incumbent, out of office.
I just returned from a two-hour televised debate with all three Republican candidates, followed by the monthly dinner meeting of the Republicans in one of the more rural of the 15 counties in my District.”


Congressman Billy Bob,

If I lived in your District, I’d vote for you. If I was a Dimocrat, I guess I could vote for you anyway, but I’m not so I can’t.


23 posted on 03/27/2008 8:39:05 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: TChad
LOL

Essyist Noonon writes...But I think it's fair to say of the establishment media ... feel such a lack of faith in Mrs. Clinton's words and ...[t]hey are offended by how she and her staff operate. They try hard to be fair. They constantly have to police themselves.

Peggy Noonan.

This might be a good time for you to quit sniffing glue.

24 posted on 03/27/2008 8:39:47 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: the invisib1e hand
"They all tend to believe their own fantasies. That's the downside of "charisma."

Peggy Noonan bought into Obama/Osama's charisma hook, line and sinker when he made that speech about Rev. J Wright.

25 posted on 03/27/2008 8:41:45 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Aristotelian

Clinton Pilot: ‘No evasive maneuver, I tell ya’...

From the Rusty Humphries show. For a short time there was a link on Drudge:

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/68124.html


26 posted on 03/27/2008 8:41:46 PM PDT by zipper ( Suicide voting is the quickest way to send the whole country to Hell.)
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To: Aristotelian
...either confirmed what you already knew (she lies as a matter of strategy, or, as William Safire said in 1996, by nature)...Old Southern saying - some people would rather climb a tree to lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth.........
27 posted on 03/27/2008 8:47:09 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: zipper

This is at the end of the Noonan article,classic.

What struck me as the best commentary on the Bosnia story came from a poster called GI Joe who wrote in to a news blog: “Actually Mrs. Clinton was too modest. I was there and saw it all. When Mrs. Clinton got off the plane the tarmac came under mortar and machine gun fire. I was blown off my tank and exposed to enemy fire. Mrs. Clinton without regard to her own safety dragged me to safety, jumped on the tank and opened fire, killing 50 of the enemy.” Soon a suicide bomber appeared, but Mrs. Clinton stopped the guards from opening fire. “She talked to the man in his own language and got him [to] surrender. She found that he had suffered terribly as a result of policies of George Bush. She defused the bomb vest herself.” Then she turned to his wounds. “She stopped my bleeding and saved my life. Chelsea donated the blood.”


28 posted on 03/27/2008 8:47:35 PM PDT by Patrick1
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To: Aristotelian
Noonan is having fun with bold conjecture to the point of truth in celebrity town. It's like fun with Dick and Liz.
29 posted on 03/27/2008 8:50:50 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Senator Goldwater

Mrs. Clinton cannot accept what is happening because she thinks she has already bought and paid for the presidency. She suffered through Bill’s infidelities, the eight years in the White House as a nobody, then schlepping for New Yorkers and pretending to be a moderate for almost eight years to get supporters for her coronation as the Democratic candidate for 2008. Using her legal education, she believes she has done her part of the contract, paid the consideration, and someone isn’t performing their part, i.e., handing her the presidency. Her husband, New Yorkers, her fellow politicians, the voters, the media, all have failed to realize she is the anointed one and failed to perform their parts of the bargain.

I think she truly believes that, in the exteme situation, God will step in to ensure she is the next president because she is the new messiah. That’s why she won’t consider giving up before at least August and perhaps even November even if Obama is the Democratic Party’s choice at the convention.


30 posted on 03/27/2008 8:51:07 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: Aristotelian

And if she manages to pull it off, which she still might,especially if she puts Willie in charge, we’re all going to have a collective heart attack, the Limbo loudmouth will celebrate, because there’ll be no effing way that Bob Dole 2008 can beat her in November, and the toothpaste and lemon vodka advertisers will all rush to fill Limbo’s pockets!


31 posted on 03/27/2008 9:01:34 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("I am like...Dude......do you really....like want the Sex?")
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To: killermosquito; All

“Many in the press get it, to their dismay, and it makes them uncomfortable, for it sours life to have a person whose character you feel you cannot admire play such a large daily role in your work.”

Wow! Pretty much an admission that the media is totally in the bag for the democrats.


32 posted on 03/27/2008 9:09:15 PM PDT by vlad335
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To: Slump Tester; the invisib1e hand; Seaplaner
Peggy Noonan bought into Obama/Osama's charisma hook, line and sinker when he made that speech about Rev. J Wright.

She has also bought into the MSM fantasy that Obama has somehow already "won." This is false. The truth is that neither candidate has any chance to win on the basis of pledged delegates. Obama is only very marginally better positioned to argue for a win than Clinton. Many of the states he has won are states the DemocRATs cannot carry.

Is Clinton really a bigger liar than Obama?

Barack claimed to have been a law professor. Uh, no.

Barack claimed to have been conceived as a result of a meeting at the Selma March. Um, not chronologically possible.

He said he had not spoken sub rosa to the Canadians in re: NAFTA. Well yes, it turns out, he did.

His demurrals and disclaimers with respect to Wright are clearly lies.

And of course, the things these two tell the truth about are even worse...

What is it about candidate Clinton which makes her, in Peggy Noonan's eyes, the greater evil?

Beats me. I know who I'm voting for on April 22.

33 posted on 03/27/2008 9:09:33 PM PDT by FredZarguna (PA's newest and shortest term DemocRAT: 16:55 3/24-8:05 4/23/2008.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I learned it as...

H = Huron
O = Ontario
M = Michigan
S = Superior

Wait, what happened to the “E”???


34 posted on 03/27/2008 9:10:11 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: caseinpoint

Mrs. Clinton cannot accept what is happening because she thinks she has already bought and paid for the presidency. She suffered through Bill’s infidelities, the eight years in the White House as a nobody, then schlepping for New Yorkers and pretending to be a moderate for almost eight years to get supporters for her coronation as the Democratic candidate for 2008. Using her legal education, she believes she has done her part of the contract, paid the consideration, and someone isn’t performing their part, i.e., handing her the presidency. Her husband, New Yorkers, her fellow politicians, the voters, the media, all have failed to realize she is the anointed one and failed to perform their parts of the bargain.


Perfect. Well said.

This ought to be emailed to Mrs Noonan.


35 posted on 03/27/2008 9:10:17 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: Aristotelian

Least we forget - the other democratic candidate has had his own instances of “misspeaking”...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18564159/


36 posted on 03/27/2008 9:12:27 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: caseinpoint

She is never going to give up and I think this is finally dawning on the liberal media. They realize now that they have to take her out. The whole Hillary/Bosnia story is old and we here have known about it for how long? She tells this same lie in her book which has been out for years and only now the media picks up on it?

Anyone who thinks this country has a free press needs to have their head examined. It’s nothing more than Pravda for the DNC.


37 posted on 03/27/2008 9:20:34 PM PDT by vlad335
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To: Patrick1

Yep, brilliant!


38 posted on 03/27/2008 9:20:38 PM PDT by karnage
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To: the invisib1e hand

Hmmm, Shakespeare wrote about tawdry people, another word for tawdry is ignoble. just that they were rich and powerful. Caesar’s circle of friends for example or Lady Macbeth. King Lear. Hamlet’s relatives. Yike.

Shakespeare would’ve made a good living today with all the wonderful inspiration we could give him.

However, you can imagine a Midsummer nights dream coming on the months before this election, and who will be Bottom?

“Methought I was.......and methought I had....”


39 posted on 03/27/2008 9:22:39 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Seaplaner

I think Peggy has been in the media so long she has Stockholm syndrome. Unfortunately, she is the last to realize it.


40 posted on 03/27/2008 9:26:16 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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