Posted on 03/28/2008 1:33:36 AM PDT by MartinaMisc
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said yesterday that the United States still has trouble dealing with race because of a national "birth defect" that denied black Americans the opportunities given to whites at the country's very founding.
"Black Americans were a founding population," she said. "Africans and Europeans came here and founded this country together — Europeans by choice and Africans in chains. That's not a very pretty reality of our founding."
As a result, Miss Rice told editors and reporters at The Washington Times, "descendants of slaves did not get much of a head start, and I think you continue to see some of the effects of that."
"That particular birth defect makes it hard for us to confront it, hard for us to talk about it, and hard for us to realize that it has continuing relevance for who we are today," she said.
Race has become an issue in this year's presidential campaign, which prompted a much-discussed speech last week by Sen. Barack Obama, one of the two remaining contenders for the Democratic nomination.
Miss Rice declined to comment on the campaign, saying only that it was "important" that Mr. Obama "gave it for a whole host of reasons."
But she spoke forcefully on the subject, citing personal and family experience to illustrate "a paradox and contradiction in this country," which "we still haven't resolved."
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
What about all the Asians who suffered oppression and brutality in their homelands and who have come here and become successes?
What amazes me is how many FReepers want her to be VP or president because she’s black and she’s a woman.
Speak for yourself, Rev. Wrigh -- Rice.
Now where's that quote from Booker T. Washington...
Ms. Rice.....your forefathers were betrayed by their brothers....and sold into slavery. The white man brought them here to help settle this country..... and God blessed you in that white men helped set them free......so you could be blessed even more......by being born to live in the greatest nation on earth....with freedom and prosperity.
“Europeans by choice and Africans in chains”
Uh, not quite, unless you mean the Europeans who came here seeking religious freedom could have given up and followed the state religion back home.
Eggxactly, Moonman!
She’s got bad teeth, no boobs and loves the Palestinians and other enemies of Israel and the U.S.! How could ANY patriot want Sleeza for VP?
How about a truly GREAT, non-RINOed black female American named Prof. Carol Swain of Vanderbilt? This lady is TOUGH, believes in law and order and a sealed Border and is very well-spoken, so much so that Lou Dobbs has her on his show now regularly?
Condi WHO?
Children and women are taken into slavery today,
and Dr. Rice gives US money to the slavers.
Stockholm syndrome? or just a stupid use of
American taxpayer money for Dr. Rice’s fawning
before slavers, murderers, and terrorists.
What is so defective about “...all men are created equal” ?
Well honey, you just made the case for euthanasia.
What a maroon.
BIG DITTO.
Sounds like she’s making a pitch to get on the ticket with Obama?
That does not count...
We are only talking about blacks and the reason giving them justification to hate whites...
Well, Condi, guess what. Some of us WHITE folks were poor and did not get a head start either. But we took a good look at the opportunities that America offered and went for it. Why don’t blacks do just that? You certainly did..now explain the others! Fussing about how the black race got here is rediculous; do you think that you would be better off if you lived in South Africa? Whites have their share of folks who feel victimized as well....no $$, etc. but I do not recall any of them raising the race card. Personally, I have had enough of this race stuff and I think most people have after putting up with face time with Obamamama and his no sense mantra and his angry wife.
Dr. Rice is now under attack from traitors and freepers. Sad. Who here is defending slavery? Being brought to this country as slaves because of your skin color is the same as whites voluntarily becoming indentured servants how?
Empathy and concern for others is a Christian trait that I gladly share with that fine Christian woman.
It actually is a form of self-hatred and denial. Natural hair can be beautiful.
Some of the most racist people are blacks in the manner in which they treat each other. Black men often won't date dark-skinned black women.
Strange, I thought the black US birthrate was at replacement while the white birthrate was below replacement.
I seem to remember someone said, “Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.” We (us white folks) need to remember these words once in a while, too.
Kwame a river
Is she getting ready to back the candidacy of B. Hussein Obama, or what????
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said yesterday that the United States still has trouble dealing with race because of a national “birth defect” that denied black Americans the opportunities given to whites at the country’s very founding.....
clue condi seems to have been praying at the alter of rev run wright and b. HUSSEIN’S racist church...
no wonder clue condi is such a fan of the f’n pali muzzie terrorists and wants to fund their terrorism of Israel...
jorge bush should get rid of this incompetent...
and many republicans want this a-hole as a VP???
No doubt... I wonder if Rice spoke of these things and the reporters at the Times ignored those parts of the interview, or if she even bothered to address those issues at all... I’m willing to give her the benefit of the doubt as a fellow conservative, but I’d like to hear her say SOMETHING about this — perhaps a personal press release, a speech, or something where we can hear everything she has to say and not just what the MSM chooses to print???
What scares me about all of this is I’m beginning to wonder if the Dems did this (pushed Obama forward) on purpose in an attempt to keep the Black Community under their thumbs and set back the progress they have achieved over the last 40 years? And, no doubt, the MSM loves anything that bleeds — even if it’s our own citizens, so I’m sure they’d love nothing better than to drive a further wedge between people just HOPING for something juicy to sell papers with - like a riot...
“As a result, Miss Rice told editors and reporters at The Washington Times, “descendants of slaves did not get much of a head start, and I think you continue to see some of the effects of that.””
Says the lady with a doctorate from a Ivy league school who is currently one of the most powerful women in the world. Just think what she could have done if they didn’t have this negative impact.
Nothing like the Secretary of State telling everyone around the world who has a historical gripe that nothing can be resolved. It also explains why she's so pro-Palestinian. Any day now she'll be calling them the black Israelis.
She should have met my ancestor. Brought here in indentured servitude so that he could earn his wife’s passage. No sooner had he paid off his debt, than he was impressed by the British Navy to support their war efforts.
But, you don’t see my whining and all Hate Limey.
It’s time to offer this worn out broad a buy-out.
A lot of Irish came here in the holds of prison ships.
They were not fed, medicated or otherwise tended to because they had utterly no “market value”.
They were merely exiles forcibly ejected from their homeland for the financial/territorial gain of the ejecters.
In a remarkably short time, they rose above *their* “birth defect” and became a hugely successful segment of the population.
[In the late 1800s, a black would be hired *before* any Irish was because they were despised even more.]
They didn’t sob into their aprons about it for centuries on end....they sucked it up and did something.
My dad’s ancestors came here in the late 1600s.
You’ll never hear us whining for “reparations” for our long-dead ancestors’ sufferings.
We’re just grateful that because of them, we were born *here*.
Hypothetically, it would be like if the British and the French were in a war, the British won, and sold the French captives into slavery to the Chinese. And if that happened in the modern day world, there would be calls to jail the PM of the UK and the PM of China. Nobody would say "The white people sold their own people into slavery". Thank you.
“and many republicans want this a-hole as a VP???”
As far as I’m concerned, she just jumped the shark.
I guess all the talk of her intelligence and education was just hype. Just like HRC.
They don't matter because they don't vote Democrat.
geez can we leave that type of talk at D.U.h?
disagree, but politely and intelligently
Condi is another mealy mouth dufus. In pure pander mode. This is the least racist nation on the planet. Tons of affirmative action and welfare money available. If you don’t like it GTFO. Find a better place to live like Zimbabwe maybe
Slaves were often bought with booze. Rum.
How is it that statements like this come from a woman who has reached the pinnacle of stature and power in this Country???
These people should study the reasons by understanding the Family Model.
She sounds like she has fallen into the Whining Class.
I think you addressed your reply to the wrong person, unless my reply phrase “jumped the shark” has been deemed verboten, here.
Maddie Dullbite’s father taught Condosleeza well. In the good old fashioned race-baiting, Marxist tradition.
Send her home.
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We need a Republican ticket with a black conservative on it. Preferably, by far, one who goes to an integrated church. Best of all would be Thomas Sowell, were he not 78 years old.There are none such who, if white, would be considered to have an adequate resume for election as president - but the Constitution makes a point of incentivizing the selection of a VP nominee whose identity will help unify the country. That's what it means when it says,
The Electors shall meet in their respective States and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same State with themselves.A black conservative Republican VP nominee would force the Democrats to nominate Obama, and would, by the simple power of the example of a black who isn't a racist, assure Obama's defeat because Obama is a racist. All black Democratic pols are racists - which is why they poll so much worse in a secret ballot than they do in a caucus or in a telephone survey. Or if there are some black pols who aren't racist, they are a minority within a minority within a minority. Because it unfortunately takes such an exceptional black to be a leader against black racism - and because the few that exist naturally tend to be Republicans.
The “tribes” had their own languages, borders, and culture, which makes them “nations”, not tribes. But funny you mention rum and slavery. My ancestors were rum and slave runners in the Caribbean. The rum and slave runners tended to marry their slaves. Under Spanish law, you had to marry your slaves if you wanted to have sex with them, or else the church told you that you’d go to hell. That’s how I came into existence, ironically enough.
Carolyn
I don’t see anywhere that she says anything about her personally suffering the impacts of slavery or anything else. “See some of the impacts” is pretty mild — I’d be hard pressed to say that there has been ZERO impact on blacks of being (largely, not totally) the descendents of slaves. That doesn’t mean that they should be excused all, or even any failures, moral or otherwise, but looking at overall statistics, you have to recognize SOME impact.
“We never dreamed anyone would attack us with airliners.”
You nailed it. The issue EVERYONE forgets is that the reason people went to Africa for slaves is because THAT IS WHERE THE SLAVE SUPERMARKET WAS!
They didnt wander over there and say “oh lets kidnap these people” - They went to the place where you could buy slaves.
This was 200 years ago, and sounds repulsive, now, but back then it was thousands of years of ‘normal’ history.
We in the USA should not be condemned for previous slavery, we should be THANKED for GETTING RID OF IT
“Typical black person” I’m a bit disappointed.
I just dont think calling her a name (and repeating it in your comment) is polite.
I am on my own personal quest to clean up FR from what I see as a slide from civility.
There is too much of the “yeah” and “what an a-hole” and “f them” type of ‘comments’ here lately, instead of intelligent commentary.
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