"YOU DO THE MATH!" I'm not sure what (50-13) has to do with section V of the constitution, but 3/4 of 50 is 37.5 ... hence, it takes 38 states to pass an amendment.
Posted on 03/28/2008 3:37:52 AM PDT by CapnJack
In a state that has seen its share of electoral problems this decade, Florida’s senior Sen. Bill Nelson made a rare appearance before the state Senate Thursday to unveil sweeping federal election reform legislation that would eliminate the Electoral College. As the state now wrestles with the national Democratic Party to find a solution to seat its 210 delegates at this year’s presidential nominating convention, Nelson noted that “the solution is very elusive,” but that, “If nothing else, this election has provided further evidence that our system is broken.” The Democratic senator, who sued the Democratic National Committee and Chairman Howard Dean last year for stripping Florida of all its delegates, in his reform bill proposes eliminating the Electoral College and giving American citizens direct election of their presidents by popular vote.
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The Constitution does allow each state to establish how they will be represented in the college.
For instance Maine and Nebraska are different from the others in that they don't do a winner take all but instead use the "District Model" of allocation of delegates based on district by district votes.
Then on the other hand perhaps he's a complete idiot.
That’s the Democrat MO: Create (yes, create) a problem, then blame the rest of us and demand a solution.
Nope, in rereading I’m wrong and you’re right, he’s a complete idiot.
The 2000 mess was contrived by the Supreme Court of Florida which decided to alter its lawful election procedures after the completion of the election that year. The result was a smackdown by the US Supreme Court 7 - 2 which told the Florida Court that it had to abide by its own laws - what a concept. The second trip to the US Supreme Court, 5 - 4 decided Florida didn’t have time to recount the votes in the lawfully prescribed time period.
The massive efforts of the zany, ultra, mega, wacky, freaky, far left to undo a lawful election had failed. And they have never stopped the childish whining. Now, their efforts to destroy the US centers around undoing a procedure contrived by men of much weightier stuff that Senator Nelson. I cannot trust any current representative to design a fair tax system, I surely cannot trust any of them to redesign the US government. 2000 was not the first time a person won the election without a majority of votes cast. In fact, the impeached former president Clinton deserves the designation as the only person to serve two terms as president while NEVER receiving a majority of votes cast.
What a sour, whiny bunch of sore losers.
Aren't the dems still trying to figure out which Texas delegates will be seated at the convention? And here they want to impose their thought process on the whole country.
This is the surest way to cause the Balkanization of the US.
Why not just do away with the law requiring 2 Senators from each state and just vote for our Senators on a national basis, regardless of which state they’re from? So what if we have 10 senators from CA, 10 from NY and 8 or so from IL and NJ? That prospect is absurd, but no different than what Nelson is proposing by eliminating the Electoral College.
Nelson is one of those rare politicians who has his own “machine” independent of the party.
He is still a kook, but he is going to be hard to unseat.
FL would be stupid to pass this.
when this fails, the left will scream for european style “proportional representation parlementary style”
in order to guarantee them seats.
Always remember that in the few months before the 2000 presidential election, the Dems thought that they would win the EC and lose the popular vote, so newspapers at the time were full of op-eds about the sanctity of the EC. Now that they can't figure it out they want to kill it in the name of "democracy" just as they killed the states' voices in the Senate with the 17th Amendment.
You fail to factor in the stupidity of the American people. Factor that in and it has a good chance to pass.
Despite what the politicians, university professors, and main stream say, Our system of government was never meant to be a democracy. We were set up as a Representative Republic.
A democracy is mob rule, nothng more, nothing less. But the Democrat Party ,so long a they rule the mob is o.k. with that.
Oh, great.
I haven’t even figured out their “super delegate” crap wherein the will of the voters can be superceded by the whims of a ‘select’ group.
Sounds very unethical to me.
Right on. This clown’s own state was warned not to jump
ahead with their primary.Now,we have to change the entire
system because of him.
What I would Like to see is the primaries held throughout the country on the same day. By the time the primaries hits the west, it has already been decided who the canidates are going to be.
That description fits Nelson to a tee. I live in Florida. He turns my stomach every time he opens his mouth.
"YOU DO THE MATH!" I'm not sure what (50-13) has to do with section V of the constitution, but 3/4 of 50 is 37.5 ... hence, it takes 38 states to pass an amendment.
It would take a Constitutional amendment to get rid of the electoral college, at least if they plan on doing it "legally." Of course, that never stopped leftists... Or congress now that I think of it.
Mark
The thirteen states with 3 or 4 EVs will never vote for an amendment to disestablish the Electoral College, therefore, it cannot pass.
Ummm... have you read a newspaper lately? There's only a handful of states left, and the race is still on.
Besides, a nation-wide primary simply puts the small states back into absolute invisibility. Why would any candidate campaign in small states in the primary with so few delegates when time is so precious?
OK, I see now.
Precisely. It would be the same situation we in upstate New York find ourselves in. New York City completely dominates Albany to the effect that fairly conservative and economically-dying upstate has no choice but to submit to socialist New Yorkers.
I was going to say that perhaps the electoral college isn't perfect, but on reflection, I think maybe it is.
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