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Shooting of Gay Student Sparks Outcry
AP via SFGate ^ | 3/28/8 | GREG RISLING, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 03/28/2008 1:34:55 PM PDT by SmithL

Larry King was a gay eighth-grader who used to come to school in makeup, high heels and earrings. And when the other boys made fun of him, he would boldly tease them right back by flirting with them.

That may have been what got him killed.

On Feb. 12, another student, Brandon McInerney, 14, shot him twice in the head at the back of the computer lab at their junior high school, police say.

The slaying of the 15-year-old boy has alarmed gay rights activists and led to demands that middle schools do more to educate youngsters about discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.

Police would not discuss McInerney's motive. But the day before the shooting, King told McInerney he liked him, eighth-grader Eduardo Segure told the Ventura County Star.

If King had flirted with the other boy, "that can be very threatening to someone's ego and their sense of identity," said Jaana Juvonen, a psychology professor at the University of California, Los Angeles.

McInerney was jailed on $770,000 bail on an adult murder charge that could put him behind bars for life. Prosecutors also filed a hate-crime enhancement, which could bring three more years if McInerney is found to have acted on the basis of the victim's race, religion, nationality or sexual orientation.

The shooting has galvanized Oxnard, a city of nearly 200,000 people about 60 miles northwest of Los Angeles. Several vigils for King have been held, including a march that drew about 1,000 people to this strawberry-growing section of Ventura County.

Like the killings of some other gay students — such as Matthew Shepard in Wyoming, and Brandon Teena, the Nebraska transsexual whose story was the subject of the movie "Boys Don't Cry" — King's death has drawn national attention and outraged many gays.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: disorders; firstgropeisfree; genderiddisorder; heterophobia; homosexualagenda; psychology; roughtrade; sexualharssment

1 posted on 03/28/2008 1:34:55 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL
And when the other boys made fun of him, he would boldly tease them right back by flirting with them.

Yes, teach all boys to enjoy males flirting with them.

2 posted on 03/28/2008 1:38:52 PM PDT by donna (McCain answers the red phone: "Hola!")
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To: SmithL
If a high school girl were to snap and kill a high school boy because she was sexually harassed by him, there would be a strong chorus of support for her from some quarters and it would become a debate over what schools should do to prevent sexual harrassment among students in the future - just as Columbine became an occasion to discuss the prevention of the victims' perceived bullying.
3 posted on 03/28/2008 1:39:48 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: SmithL
Motive is completely irrelevant here.

Try the little f***** as an adult and then fry his ass.

Oh sorry, CA doesn't execute cold blooded murderers anymore.

L

4 posted on 03/28/2008 1:40:50 PM PDT by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: SmithL
The principal: "If girls are wearing jewelry, you can't stop boys from wearing it, too," he said. "Each gender has the right to wear what the other does."

Gee, didn't work out real well this time, did it. Oh well, it's only one dead kid and one confused teen killer spending life in jail. No reason not to conintue forward with absurd liberal social engineering. Obviously MORE social engineering is needed!! Maybe all boys should be required to wear girls clothes!!!

Ah, the liberal mind. Diseased, decadant, confused. Liberalism *is* a mental disease. Which has killed more Americna teens: Al Qaeda fighters in Iraq or liberal idiots running the schools?

5 posted on 03/28/2008 1:41:41 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: SmithL

“Larry King was a gay eighth-grader who used to come to school in makeup, high heels and earrings. And when the other boys made fun of him, he would boldly tease them right back by flirting with them.”

“That may have been what got him killed.”

No, his parents allowing him to dress in makeup, high heels and earrings is what most likely got him killed.


6 posted on 03/28/2008 1:41:57 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: SmithL

Astonishing story. I hadn’t heard about it. Of course the kid shouldn’t have been killed, but comeon, a hate crimes beef against a 14 y.o. who had been harassed by the dead kid? I don’t think so.


7 posted on 03/28/2008 1:42:10 PM PDT by ichabod1 (I'm a TWiP and I'm proud.)
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To: SmithL

“Oxnard? Turn blue!”


8 posted on 03/28/2008 1:42:40 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: SmithL
If King had flirted with the other boy, "that can be very threatening to someone's ego and their sense of identity,"

Well, yeah, if the other boy's secret stash ran to bodybuilding publications instead of girlie mags.

9 posted on 03/28/2008 1:43:56 PM PDT by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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To: SmithL
"He didn't like people insulting him," said his friend Miriam Lopez, 13. ""Larry was brave enough to bring high heels and makeup to school and he wasn't afraid of anything."

13 year olds do not know the difference in meaning between brave and brazen.

10 posted on 03/28/2008 1:50:15 PM PDT by Biblebelter (Barry, let your Uncle Jeremiah speak publicly, so he can set the record straight himself.)
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To: SmithL

So it would be a less big deal if he had been killed by another gay guy, or if he had been straight, or???
susie


11 posted on 03/28/2008 1:50:38 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: SmithL
Larry King was a gay eighth-grader who used to come to school in makeup, high heels and earrings. And when the other boys made fun of him, he would boldly tease them right back by flirting with them.

You'd never guess that now.

12 posted on 03/28/2008 1:51:56 PM PDT by x
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To: x

that’s the first thing I thought of too.


13 posted on 03/28/2008 1:54:22 PM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: SmithL

If the schools continue to allow sexual harassment by homosexuals, they’re going to see a lot of this.


14 posted on 03/28/2008 1:55:08 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: SmithL
People die, kids beat each other, occasionally kids even kill each other....... but when a gay kid gets killed, why then of course it's a special event in history with books, and movies made, politicians making statements about the horrors of discrimination and hate, the anti-gun folk will jump on their bandwagon, and of course the gays will use this in their crusade to preach the greatness of their gayness to all the little boys and girls in schools (This sort of stuff is best taught at a really young age according to them).

I have an idea. One kid killed another kid and the one committing the crime gets punished in accordance to the law in a way that is fair and consitent, which of course already today has “special” classes of extra special people. You see, my wife, she's just a normal Christian Caucasian heterosexual piece of $hit born in OH. But if she were “special” and someone killed her, i.e. she were black, gay, Muslim, or from Timbuktu, well then whoever took her from me or her kids would be also charged with a “hate crime.” It's nice to know that in America justice is blind, that we are all equal.

15 posted on 03/28/2008 1:55:16 PM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: SmithL

“demands that middle schools do more to educate youngsters about discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.”

No teach them murder is wrong and punishable by death in some places.


16 posted on 03/28/2008 1:59:11 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: SmithL
The real travesty is the breakdown of order and oversght in the school environment. There is no excuse for this fiasco to have happened. The authorities and the victim's parents as well were derelict in not reining in manifestly inappropriate sexual behavior. The sad fact of the matter is they set up this tragedy just as if they'd planned it.

Now two kids' lives are ruined and all the smug einsteins can have a field day.

17 posted on 03/28/2008 2:01:00 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: x
"You'd never guess that now."

Proof that the gay lifestyle can really age a dude.

18 posted on 03/28/2008 2:02:56 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: hinckley buzzard
The authorities and the victim's parents as well were derelict in not reining in manifestly inappropriate sexual behavior. The sad fact of the matter is they set up this tragedy just as if they'd planned it.

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Agreed.

19 posted on 03/28/2008 2:04:45 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SmithL
The slaying of the 15-year-old boy has ... led to demands that middle schools do more to educate youngsters about discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.

How about demands that boys in public school NOT dress up in high heels, makeup, and earrings and flirt with other boys? How about demanding that people NO MATTER WHAT AGE keep their sexual orientation to themselves?

The need to "educate youngsters about discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation" is absurd on its face. Children don't have to be taught -- they naturally discriminate against homosexuality because homosexuality is abnormal.

More profound, in the Judeo-Christian ethic that molds all of Western civilization and which has, over the past 2,000 years, clearly proven itself far and away the most successful model for human thriving and dignity, homosexuality is specifically mentioned as something to be rejected and discouraged, and we can probably assume that homosexuality is just another condition of mankind, that it has always and will always be with us -- it's our challenge to deal with it properly. We may not fully understand Biblical reasons for discouraging it, but we IGNORE and DEFY at our peril the instruction to reject homosexualty. The smartest, most dignified thing to do is to usher it back in the closet where it belongs. If you're a homosexual, exhibit it at your own risk.

You can't fool mother nature and you can't fool kids. What the Gay Agenda enablers really mean is that they see the need to override kids' instictive reaction to reject homosexuality and to force them to go against their own natures in accepting it as "normal." It's not normal, it never will be, and all the forceful insistence of gay "rights" activists cannot change that any more than they could make two plus two equal five.

20 posted on 03/28/2008 2:07:10 PM PDT by Finny (Democrats are Gov't Mommies. Liberal Republicans are Big Gov't Daddies. Conservatives are adults.)
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To: Lurker
CA doesn't execute cold blooded murderers anymore - When did that happen?
21 posted on 03/28/2008 2:07:16 PM PDT by SF Republican (Conservatives wanted all or nothing, and they got it.)
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To: x

But he does the voice of the Ugly Stepsister in Shrek.

22 posted on 03/28/2008 2:11:36 PM PDT by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: peggybac

Exactly. First them letting him go to school like that and second the school ALLOWING that kind of dress. The world has gone mad!


23 posted on 03/28/2008 2:12:01 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever fully realize.)
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To: SmithL

That away to stick to your guns there gay guy. You showed them that parading around in any gender-bending attire you wish. Yep. You showed ‘em.

Course you ended up dying to make your point.

This is like the person who drives hurriedly through a green traffic light without looking in either direction, because hey, they have the right of way. Then they get flattened by a big truck. But they were in the right!


24 posted on 03/28/2008 2:15:28 PM PDT by subterfuge (Obama will NOT get the nomination.)
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To: SmithL
when the other boys made fun of him, he would boldly tease them right back by flirting with them.

What an idiot.

25 posted on 03/28/2008 2:17:06 PM PDT by montag813
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To: SmithL; All
Shooting Larry King was wrong.

My gripe about this report, however, is that we never hear anything about how Christians may be offended by cross-dressing and homosexuality in public school settings. (I don't know what Brandon McInerney's religious beliefs are.)

Deuteronomy 22:5 commands us not to cross-dress, for example.

Also, Romans 1:25-27 tells us that same-sex sexual relationships are a consequence of idolatry. In other words, such relationships are a consequence of disobeying the 1ST COMMANDMENT, a major aspect of the GREATEST COMMANDMENT, to love the jealous God with all your being.

Homosexuals need to keep in mind, however, that the good news of the gospel is not about how God despises same-sex sexual relationships. In fact, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 indicates that certain members of that church had been slaves to such relationships but had been cleansed in Jesus' name. So these former homosexual had evidently repented and accepted God's grace to straighten their lives out.

John 3:16
Revelation 3:20

26 posted on 03/28/2008 2:18:57 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: SmithL

So now just as Bill Clinton’s sexual harassment victims are supposed to “lie back and take it” so are those who are sexually emasculated by a cruising homosexual.

Violence is not the answer. But then again 2 wrongs were committed and 2 wrongs don’t make a right. The school and protesters deny the first was “wrong”.

It was an unwelcome sexual advance.


27 posted on 03/28/2008 2:22:26 PM PDT by weegee (Famous moments in history: March 18th, 2008 “I have a bridge (to sell you)...” - Barack H. Obama)
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To: SmithL
"he would boldly tease them right back by flirting with them."

that was obviously the wrong play.

28 posted on 03/28/2008 2:22:32 PM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: SmithL

Problem is, is that the liberal media is telling us that gay is OK, but the playground berates any boy less than masculine as a faggot. This is what happens when worlds collide. When parents don’t see any harm in having their son openly act gay, while other parents don’t see any harm in their sons play murder simulator games on their X-Box!


29 posted on 03/28/2008 2:31:07 PM PDT by Bommer ("He that controls the spice controls the universe!" (unfortunately that spice is Nutmeg!))
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To: SmithL

How about teaching kids about appropriate responses to teasing and flirting in the first place? Regardless of how dumb you think someone looks, there’s no excuse to tease them about it - let other people dress ridiculously if they want, cause they’re only going to make themselves look bad. On the other hand, unwanted flirting is sexual harassment, and it should have stopped when the killer asked the gay kid to stop, just like it would be expected for any two heterosexual individuals. In addition, had the killer reported the other boy for sexual harassment instead of shooting him, the whole situation could probably have been resolved nonviolently. And last of all, as much as I’m likely to catch some flaming from this, I think the world would be a lot better if more people had that gay kid’s self-confidence - how many girls starve themselves because they’re worried about what other people think of them? How many guys treat girls badly because they’re worried about being seen as ‘manly’ (which, unfortunately, in today’s culture can mean ‘acting like a pimp/player/jerk’)? There’s just so much wrong on every side of this picture...


30 posted on 03/28/2008 2:31:50 PM PDT by Hyzenthlay (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: SmithL

Great, something for the queens to cry about - riiiiiight, one kid shoots another kid in a public school who happens to be “gay”, so therefore, a pro-homosexual agenda has to be pushed on ALL students even harder?

What kind of parents lets their SON go to school in makeup and high heels in the first place???


31 posted on 03/28/2008 2:33:49 PM PDT by Baladas
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To: SmithL

Seems to me the better solution would be to make homosexuality socially unacceptable, and cause gay, cross dressing children to dress and act straight, at least until they are old enough to have a private life where they can share their perversions with friends who want to share the gay lifestyle with them. All the politically correct attempts to convince straight people that homosexuality is normal won’t prevent the next young thug from killing or beating a gay kid. What liberals will accomplish with the radical, gay agenda is the next step in tearing down sexual morality and cultural standards. Someday, we will read how some young thug shot the neighbor kid for lawfully practicing bestiality on the street. The PC police will admonish us about the need to teach our children bestiality awareness.


32 posted on 03/28/2008 2:35:49 PM PDT by pallis
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To: peggybac

This is what happens when fatherhood is banned. I bet neither kid had a real dad. Sad.


33 posted on 03/28/2008 2:52:25 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: wintertime
And when the other boys made fun of him, he would boldly tease them right back by flirting with them.
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Is this the wonderful “socialization” that homeschoolers are missing? Or....Should I say, “sexualization”?

As horrific as this “school” ( sounds more like a prison) murder was, and as dumb as this school's policies are, STUPID parents likely had their kids attending there the very next day. Free babysitting is powerfully addictive!

34 posted on 03/28/2008 2:53:02 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: ALPAPilot

I bet neither kid had a real dad. Sad.
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I’ll bet that’s true!


35 posted on 03/28/2008 2:53:57 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: pallis

I liked it better when NO ONE talked about their sexuality. To me, that should be a private matter.


36 posted on 03/28/2008 3:15:56 PM PDT by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: SmithL
Image hosted by Photobucket.com what kind of school lets a freak like that wander around in heels and makeup???
37 posted on 03/28/2008 3:22:41 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: wideawake

I agree with your analogy. Maybe the shooter felt threatened by this idiot gay kid who was a cross-dresser. Harassment is harassment, regardless of who is harassed and who does the harassment.


38 posted on 03/28/2008 3:26:22 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Bommer

I am surprised that no one has mentioned the articles portrayal of the two boys. Victim: Singer, loved by all, crochets with his mother. Perp: Goofey, junior marine in the making, typical guy.

You think there was a little editorializing being done here. No one was interviewed about the perp, but there were two or three glowing, “he was the most wonderful, well liked” interviews about the victim.

I don’t agree with the idea that if someone bugs you at school you shoot them, but you have to wonder just how pervasive this harassment was and how long it had been going on. Was there unwelcoming touching or advances be made? It sounds like the victim was an in your face kind of guy and this may not have been the first time he had cornered this other kid. And who knows maybe the other kid did go to a teacher or someone and was told that his attitude was homophobic and he needed to become more tolerant of Larry’s behavior. I would not be surprised to find that to be the case in a school that allowed this kid to parade around in make-up and high heels.


39 posted on 03/28/2008 3:40:42 PM PDT by redangus
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To: Hyzenthlay

What you miss in your analysis is the deep seated visceral disgust that many heterosexuals experience when confronted with that garbage. Even more so for a boy that age — he was at risk of being branded a faggot as well because of this flamer. His developing sexual psyche couldn’t take it, he flipped out, and capped the kid. It would have been nice if he could have stepped back, been objective, and thought through the situation, but that’s way too much to expect from a young skull full of mush afflicted by raging hormones.

This reminds me of that horrible event on the Jenny Jones show, “Secret Crushes” where a homo told a straight guy he had a crush on him and the next day the straight guy killed him.


40 posted on 03/28/2008 7:01:52 PM PDT by ichabod1 (I'm a TWiP and I'm proud.)
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To: Red6

I agree. Every crime is a hate crime. It doesn’t matter who killed who or what color each individual was. If you kill someone, it’s a “hate” crime.


41 posted on 03/28/2008 7:23:44 PM PDT by thegreatestgeneration
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To: donna

The Gay Agenda and the Hetero Establishment do not mix any better than oil and water. What do they really expect to happen. They keep pushing the Gay issue and sooner or later they cross the line and force confrontation. This was a crime of unwanted perverted passion.


42 posted on 03/29/2008 6:06:30 AM PDT by Birdsbane (If You Are Employed By A Liberal Democrat...Quit!)
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