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FITNA And Islamofascist Rage
The Virginian/Teh Washington Times ^ | 3/29/2008 | Moneyrunner

Posted on 03/29/2008 11:31:00 AM PDT by moneyrunner

Here's a roundup of opinion of Geert Wilders' firm FITNA.

The film is by Geert Wilders, a Dutch member of parliament who wants to reverse the Islamization of Europe and believes the Koran should be banned along with Hitler's "Mein Kampf" for inciting hatred and violence. The film is called "Fitna," Arabic for upheaval. And just the thought of "Fitna" has Europe in upheaval, cowering before widely anticipated Islamic outrage expected to range from diplomatic huff, to economic boycott, to rioting

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: filmjihad; fitna; wilders; wildersislam
I have in the past deplored the lack of respect shown for various religions, especially when they could be considered blasphemous ("Piss Christ" is an example that comes to mind). However, that horse has left the barn, at least in regards to Christianity and Judaism. Those who are in the forefront of trying to silence Wilders were also the ones manning the barricades in support of Andres Serrano . The motivations appear to be a mixture: hatred of Christians and Jews, hatred of Western Civilization and rank cowardice.
1 posted on 03/29/2008 11:31:01 AM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: moneyrunner

In April, a cartoon film depicting Mohammed as a pedophile is coming out. (also from Holland)


2 posted on 03/29/2008 11:39:04 AM PDT by nuconvert (There are bad people in the pistachio business.)
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To: nuconvert
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1990595/posts
3 posted on 03/29/2008 11:41:17 AM PDT by Vortex (Garbage in, Garbage Out)
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To: moneyrunner

The metaphor here is the abused wife and her abusive husband. The abused wife dares not speak up, in public and especially not in private, since the violence will be sudden, severe, and come literally out of nowhere for the slightest perceived insult. The abused wife can’t even talk about past instances of abuse without fear of continuing violence.

The abusive husband can be charming, soothing, and attractive, especially for those who are not privy to the reality of the relationship between the wife and husband. Often the rumors and comments about husband’s abuse are simply not accepted because he is usually peaceful. In fact, the abuse is often directed only at certain individuals, so one person might have no experience with the husband’s violence at all, while another person might see the rage and violence closeup and personal.

The West has been the target of abuse by the Islamic east for centuries. Westerners keep hoping that if they’re nice and quiet and respectful, the violence will somehow just go away. Islam knows better. All they have to do at this point is quietly say, “You don’t want me to get angry, do you?” and they know that the West will capitulate.

At the end of this kind of behavior is death for the abused, whether in a personal relationship or among the nations.

I don’t know whether the West will choose suicide by Islam or decide to finally fight back. The Islamists are brutal and barbaric, but not invincible. The battle is coming, though.


4 posted on 03/29/2008 11:42:32 AM PDT by redpoll
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To: moneyrunner

The problem with , “Fitra” or trying to rid Europe of Islam anything is that its too little too late. What people must realize is that the Muslim population has overtaken the others. France is fast approaching a muslim nation by sheer births alone, it is a new statistic that people have ignored for decades. Other nations have same problem with their increased muslim population. In 5-10 yrs the majority of Europe will have more muslims than french. Amazing what time does to change things.
A liberal President may change immigration to allow enough muslims in to US to change our population within 2-3 generations. Maybe that’s the CHANGE that’s coming.
US/Europe have been aborting, and Islam is populating, and that’s the plan.


5 posted on 03/29/2008 11:43:16 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: moneyrunner
Though Live Leak chicked out and pulled the "Fitna" film, it can still be seen on viral video HERE
6 posted on 03/29/2008 11:44:20 AM PDT by Stepan12 ( "We are all girlymen now." Conservative reaction to Ann Coulter's anti PC joke)
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To: moneyrunner

Fitna must be accurate if it is getting these rave reviews from the muslims. They don’t want us to know about their false religion, and how stupid their people are.


7 posted on 03/29/2008 11:45:01 AM PDT by chainsaw ( No black racist Muslims in the WH.)
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To: Stepan12

I watched it on Live Leak yesterday. Very revealing.


8 posted on 03/29/2008 11:46:27 AM PDT by chainsaw ( No black racist Muslims in the WH.)
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To: moneyrunner
"Geert Wilders, a Dutch member of parliament who wants to reverse the Islamization of Europe and believes the Koran should be banned along with Hitler's "Mein Kampf" for inciting hatred and violence."

At least there is one sane voice in Europe who recognizes the danger they are in.

Hopefully soon our own politicians will wake up and actually read that filthy Koran and realize what it is and take action.
It's simply incredible that in this PC climate we've created in this country, the Koran ISN'T already banned!

9 posted on 03/29/2008 11:46:56 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: moneyrunner
Here is a link to Fitna the movie in english--

I watched it and thought it was pretty tame. Cutting the man's head off of course is graphic but I watched those videos too because you should know your enemy. This is just an honest representation of their psychotic satanic beliefs. The only thing I object to is the part at the end where they tear out the "offensive" parts. That's weak. The whole Koran is garbage. You don't rip out a few pages to redeem it. The entire book has been spewed from Hell. Let it all return there.

10 posted on 03/29/2008 11:47:12 AM PDT by puffer
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To: moneyrunner
Much better than the Fitna film is
"What the West needs to know"
(Just in case you haven't seen it yet)
Much better video and explains it much better.
11 posted on 03/29/2008 11:50:01 AM PDT by BigFinn (Islam= a caustic blend of paganism and twisted Bible stories resulting in death and mayhem.)
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To: Kackikat

Ditto to that.


12 posted on 03/29/2008 11:51:01 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Kackikat
What people must realize is that the Muslim population has overtaken the others. France is fast approaching a muslim nation by sheer births alone, it is a new statistic that people have ignored for decades.

The bigger factor is how many are on welfare, or support themselves through crime. Long before they are a majority, they will collapse the welfare state. AT that point, it won't be pretty

There will come a point where the European middle class will only have two choices: accept being slaves, or strike out with a savagery which will make the early 1940's look tame

13 posted on 03/29/2008 11:52:33 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: redpoll

excellent analogy. Except western civilization wasn’t always ignorant of Islam. Until the beginning of the 20th century Islam wasn’t allowed to establish a foothold anywhere in the western world. The 20th century saw the fall of the ottoman empire, and then if by magic, the dangers of Islam and all the evil it represented, even the mass killings of Christians in Asia Minor during the Ottoman empires’ last gasps were ignored and gradually forgotten. All signs of Islamic jihad again gathering strength in the late 20’s and years leading up to ww2 were ignored, and for another 40 years following that.


14 posted on 03/29/2008 11:57:01 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

You got that right. It’s the 1,400 year war, back again for another battle.


15 posted on 03/29/2008 11:59:18 AM PDT by redpoll
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To: moneyrunner
The film is by Geert Wilders, a Dutch member of parliament who wants to reverse the Islamization of Europe and believes the Koran should be banned along with Hitler's "Mein Kampf" for inciting hatred and violence.

Wilders errs in seeking to ban books. He thereby emulates Islam.

16 posted on 03/29/2008 12:01:11 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: moneyrunner

I watched it today...Wilders nails it.

It seems that once Islam has started to take hold of Holland and Denmark, many people there (i.e. Wilders, Theodore van Gogh, the Danish cartoonists, etc) wake up and get some guts and make films/cartoons criticizing Islam. That would almost NEVER happen here. Can you imagine any American politician having the guts to make such a film? I sure can’t. The ACLU and CAIR would be all over them in an instant. That Opus cartoon mocking Islam was pulled from the newspapers. This country has PC-ed itself to the point where it is inviting Islam to come and conquer it, free of charge.


17 posted on 03/29/2008 12:02:10 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Welcome to the Middle East: Some days are Sunni, but most are Shi'ite)
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To: G8 Diplomat
"This country has PC-ed itself to the point where it is inviting Islam to come and conquer it, free of charge."

The enemy within is trying to make it even easier for them by stripping the citizenship of arms.

18 posted on 03/29/2008 12:09:56 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: chainsaw
Fitna must be accurate if it is getting these rave reviews from the muslims. They don’t want us to know about their false religion, and how stupid their people are.

And thou shalt call him Ishmael and he will be a wildman. His hand against everyman and everyman's hand against his."

Genesis 16:12

19 posted on 03/29/2008 12:14:29 PM PDT by Stepan12 ( "We are all girlymen now." Conservative reaction to Ann Coulter's anti PC joke)
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To: moneyrunner
I have in the past deplored the lack of respect shown for various religions, >>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well, Islam is used to support and justify Islamo-fascism and the establishment of a World Caliphate. That means only one religion in the world. So we must fight them any way we can.

These Islamo-fascists mean to end Western Civilization as we know it.

This war is every bit a serious as the Cold War. Most people in the West just have not caught on yet. It took the USA from 1930 until 1940 to figure out what the Nazis were about.It won't be much longer before the Iranians will but a true face on the World Caliphate movement, that even Liberals can understand, say by about 2012, another 4 years or so.

20 posted on 03/29/2008 12:20:04 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: moneyrunner
Is there anything in this film that is untrue? I watched the film and it seems to be a listing of factually reported events and truths. Are the Islamofascist mad that it is being shown or do they truly disagree with the content?
21 posted on 03/29/2008 12:30:15 PM PDT by WesternPacific (I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils!)
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To: moneyrunner

Now Geert Wilders should win the Nobel for standing up to islamfascism.


22 posted on 03/29/2008 12:30:52 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Candor7

by then it may too late....say hello to:

President Barack Hussein Obama


23 posted on 03/29/2008 12:34:41 PM PDT by Selmore (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
It's simply incredible that in this PC climate we've created in this country, the Koran ISN'T already banned!

The PC'ers ban books.

By contrast, free republics allow them. And refute them, as needed, as in the case of the Koran.

24 posted on 03/29/2008 1:48:30 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: BigFinn

Excellent movie at your link. Thanks.

http://www.whatthewestneedstoknow.com/

(the home website)


25 posted on 03/29/2008 1:50:56 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: nuconvert
In April, a cartoon film depicting Mohammed as a pedophile is coming out. (also from Holland)

Sweet! I need a new bumper sticker.
26 posted on 03/29/2008 3:33:58 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Exactly


27 posted on 03/29/2008 4:28:04 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Welcome to the Middle East: Some days are Sunni, but most are Shi'ite)
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To: moneyrunner

BTTT!!!


28 posted on 03/29/2008 10:09:22 PM PDT by Brad's Gramma (Vote for my German Shepherds!!!! They're smarter than what's running!!)
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To: redpoll

The only thing you left out of your analogy is that Islam is a 105 lb. loudmouth wimp, while the West (at least the US, Israel, Australia, and a few others) is a powerlifter with 27th degree blackbelts in every martial art known and could kick the loudmouth’s @ss in a heartbeat if it had the will to do so. At least right now, that is. The little loudmouth is taking roids, though, in the form of oil money and nuke tech, so that won’t be the case for long...


29 posted on 03/30/2008 6:13:51 AM PDT by piytar
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To: moneyrunner

Muslims: “We’ll cut your head off for saying that Islam cuts off people’s heads!”


30 posted on 03/30/2008 6:18:48 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: WesternPacific

Remember, though, that facts and truth mean nothing to the Islamofacists - or their leftist/socialist/Democr@p allies...


31 posted on 03/30/2008 6:20:40 AM PDT by piytar
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To: piytar

That list should have beedn “oil, nuke tech, population growth, and manipulation of the wwelfare state.” Meanwhile, the abused wife is on a 200 calorie a day diet (abortion, population contraction, oil dependency, choice of leftist/socialist/Democr@p politicians, etc.).


32 posted on 03/30/2008 6:24:48 AM PDT by piytar
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