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Police warn gang may stage rear-end collisions, assault motorists
The Buffalo News ^ | 29 March 2008 | T.J. Pignataro

Posted on 03/29/2008 11:45:08 AM PDT by radar101

A public alert was issued early this evening by Buffalo Police, warning that a gang could be staging rear-end collisions tonight on area roadways and then attacking drivers as part of an initiation ritual.

Commissioner H. McCarthy Gipson called an emergency news conference at police headquarters just before 6:30 p.m. to make the announcement.

He said police received "credible information" late this afternoon suggesting that the initiation ritual could involve gang member recruits intentionally causing rear-end collisions and then robbing or assaulting the other driver.

Gipson suggested motorists be aware of their surroundings. If they do become involved in a rear-end collision, he suggested they drive to a well-lit area and immediately call 9-1-1 from a cellular telephone, if they have one. Gipson also suggested motorists stay in their vehicles and continue moving until police arrive.

The Central American gang involved is considered "very well armed" and dangerous. It has a history of violence in other parts of the country but is new to the Buffalo area, Gipson said.

"This is the first time we've heard of this gang making inroads into the area," Gipson said.

Gipson wouldn't provide the name of the gang so as not to give the gang "notoriety."

The gang is known to the FBI to be involved in violent activities such as murder, robbery, assault and extortion, as well as increasing involvement in retail theft, home invasions, burglaries and narcotics trafficking, according to FBI officials in North Carolina concerning the threat of the gang there in 2006.

tpignataro@buffnews.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: disinfo; gangs; hoax; notreal; trolling
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1 posted on 03/29/2008 11:45:09 AM PDT by radar101
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To: radar101

The gang would be proving series bravery if they staged this in Alaska where it is safe to assume every motor vehicle is armed.


2 posted on 03/29/2008 11:47:12 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: radar101
There's a lot of armed people in Buffalo and it's common for the toughies to carry tire irons and chains inside the car.

I would think this "central American gang" is targeting easy prey. The old and females because Buffalo is a depressed economy and the takings are pretty slim.

3 posted on 03/29/2008 11:50:11 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: radar101
The Central American gang involved is considered "very well armed" and dangerous. It has a history of violence in other parts of the country...

And yet we still argue about the border.

4 posted on 03/29/2008 11:51:14 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: radar101

There was a similar report involving a California town just a couple of days ago on FR. Have there been any reports of actual incidents, or is this just another urban legend making the rounds?


5 posted on 03/29/2008 11:52:00 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: radar101

Getting killed in a staged rear end collision, home invasion, etc.. Just one of the many hidden costs of “cheap labor” and “multi-cultural” society’s suicidal tendencies. It was a nice country while it lasted. Take a look at South Africa and see what’s coming here at breakneck speed.


6 posted on 03/29/2008 11:52:05 AM PDT by badbass
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To: radar101

In a sane society, the announcement would go like this:

“Gangs are staging rear-end collisions as part of an initiation ritual. Motorists are asked to clean their firearms and make sure that their guns are easily accessible in case of trouble from these hoodlums. If there is trouble, please call 911 following the incident, and do not touch the bodies until the ambulance arrives at the scene. You may purchase the needed ammo at your nearest WalMart, where they have low prices every day!”


7 posted on 03/29/2008 11:54:01 AM PDT by redpoll
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To: radar101

Another advertisement for concealed carry rights.

Anyone else notice that the story neglects to comment on the subject of the legal status of these people?

Care to take odds that they are primarily illegals???


8 posted on 03/29/2008 11:54:01 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

“The Central American gang involved...” Multiculturalism can be a real killer. Coming to your neighborhood soon.


9 posted on 03/29/2008 11:54:25 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Bernard Marx

A warning just a couple of days ago on the east coast, as well.


10 posted on 03/29/2008 11:54:47 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: radar101

It would be safe to say that the gang in question would be none other than MS-13.


11 posted on 03/29/2008 11:54:49 AM PDT by Xenophon450 (I guess I'll never know, some things under the sun can never be understood...)
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To: radar101

We can thank our filthy politicians for this wonderful gang of scumbags who come across our border with impunity. I hope the first car they hit belongs to a politician who supports illegal immigration.


12 posted on 03/29/2008 11:55:14 AM PDT by peeps36 (OUTLAWED WORDS--INSURGENT,GLOBAL WARMING,UNDOCUMENTED WORKER,PALESTINIAN,TERMINATED PREGNANCY)
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To: RightWhale

>>>The gang would be proving series bravery if they staged this in Alaska where it is safe to assume every motor vehicle is armed.<<<

Nice thought, but....

series = similar things placed in order
serious = very important or significant

Please use each word in a sentence and put the work on my desk by Monday morning to get full credit for your post. Thanks!


13 posted on 03/29/2008 11:57:19 AM PDT by redpoll
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To: radar101

I would imagine they are talking about Mara Salvatrucha
MS-13.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Salvatrucha

They should all be killed.


14 posted on 03/29/2008 11:57:58 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: redpoll

Keep it up and you will fail the course in social FReepology.


15 posted on 03/29/2008 11:59:07 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: radar101

Typical white grannies gone wild I must assume so as to remain politically correct?


16 posted on 03/29/2008 11:59:21 AM PDT by junta (It's Poltical Correctness stupid! Hold liberals accountable for their actions, a new idea.)
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To: Xenophon450

I had something like this happen to me once a number of years ago while I was driving out of NYC on the Major Deegan with a friend.

A car with two or three young black guys in it passed me, pulled in front of me, and then slammed on the brakes. I didn’t have enough room to avoid a collision by braking, but I fortunately turned the wheel hard left and managed to get by them that way. My reflexes are pretty good because I did some sports car racing when I was much younger.

I don’t think it was a gang initiation. I think it was an insurance scam. If you hit a car from behind, your insurance company will pay. But it was a pretty scary moment.

Heavens forbid that we should discriminate against these violent Latino gangs by guarding our borders.


17 posted on 03/29/2008 12:01:05 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: RightWhale

I think he’s saying that your a looser. It’s hugh!


18 posted on 03/29/2008 12:01:27 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Xenophon450


19 posted on 03/29/2008 12:01:35 PM PDT by radar101
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To: radar101

As good an argument as I’ve ever seen for concealed carry. Lock and load.


20 posted on 03/29/2008 12:02:32 PM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: Billthedrill

It’s too cold and too early to stune the beeber.


21 posted on 03/29/2008 12:04:37 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: freema

Had it here in CA on Thursday too.


22 posted on 03/29/2008 12:11:04 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: radar101

There were warnings to this effect in Houston this week. Carry your .45 in an easily accessible place.


23 posted on 03/29/2008 12:12:56 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: radar101

Hoax


24 posted on 03/29/2008 12:15:31 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: RightWhale

Let’s keep it calm here.......this is a hugh problem.


25 posted on 03/29/2008 12:15:44 PM PDT by BigBlueJon ("And shepherds we shall be....For Thee, my Lord, for Thee....")
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To: TightyRighty; Bernard Marx

Lots of info at snopes:
http://www.snopes.com/crime/gangs/carbump.asp


26 posted on 03/29/2008 12:16:46 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: redpoll; RightWhale

And he’s super cereal about it!


27 posted on 03/29/2008 12:18:16 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: redpoll
Time for a little review.
28 posted on 03/29/2008 12:18:28 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: BigBlueJon

We’re clam. Anybody not clam? No need to move Zig.


29 posted on 03/29/2008 12:19:32 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: redpoll
BINGO ! ..... We've got a winner ! Snooter ;o)
30 posted on 03/29/2008 12:20:54 PM PDT by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: badbass
Getting killed in a staged rear end collision, home invasion, etc.. Just one of the many hidden costs of “cheap labor” and “multi-cultural” society’s suicidal tendencies.

Would my wishing one of them would rear end Juan McCain, Teddy Kennedy, Jorge Bush or any member of their immediate families be too cruel?

31 posted on 03/29/2008 12:23:57 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.)
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To: RightWhale
I'm not worried about series, if a situation is series, it is series, but ...

I am concerned about arming motor vehicles as in "it is safe to assume every motor vehicle is armed."

I just want the drivers of said motor vehicles armed.

;-)

32 posted on 03/29/2008 12:24:39 PM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: Let's Roll

How are you gentlemen !!


33 posted on 03/29/2008 12:26:25 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: E. Cartman

Cruel or not, you have my support ;-).


34 posted on 03/29/2008 12:27:25 PM PDT by badbass
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To: Bernard Marx

It’s a trolling campaign based off of an urban legend.

There have been no incidents.


35 posted on 03/29/2008 12:28:13 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: radar101
Gipson suggested motorists be aware of their surroundings. If they do become involved in a rear-end collision, he suggested they drive to a well-lit area and immediately call 9-1-1 from a cellular telephone, if they have one.

There is a book called Call 911 -- and Die

It is more appropos today than ever.

I wonder if these klueless kops have any better ideas today?

36 posted on 03/29/2008 12:29:31 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: radar101

This story is completly true. In Miami my fahter was rearended by a car full of blacks. It was just a tap and my father was pulling over when he saw the “blood vessel” was packed with young men. He stepped on it and they chased him for a few blocks until he drove by the police station.


37 posted on 03/29/2008 12:31:40 PM PDT by FreeManWhoCan (An American in Miami)
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To: Bernard Marx

Intentional rear-ends are common in Los Angeles. Well, you read about them now and then. I don’t know if it is our home-grown thugs or imported. Just drive on ....


38 posted on 03/29/2008 12:33:42 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

bump


39 posted on 03/29/2008 12:42:19 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: bboop

IIRC the “accidents” can be staged to collect insurance money.


40 posted on 03/29/2008 12:49:20 PM PDT by deks
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To: radar101
The Central American gang involved is considered "very well armed" and dangerous.

I think we should import a few hundred thousand more of these people so we can feel even more compassionate.

41 posted on 03/29/2008 12:54:20 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: bboop; happinesswithoutpeace; freema
I drive in L.A. a lot and anything can happen there -- especially insurance fraud "accidents." But the only confirmed gang murders as 'initiation' rites I know of were years ago in the San Francisco Zebra killings.

That said, MS-13 is very real, along with many other youth gangs around the country. I hate threads like this: the gangs might pick up some ideas.

42 posted on 03/29/2008 12:59:51 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx
There was a similar report involving a California town just a couple of days ago on FR. Have there been any reports of actual incidents, or is this just another urban legend making the rounds?

The latter. It was going around a few months back, too.

43 posted on 03/29/2008 1:01:17 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: radar101

This recently happened on a go-cart track near here where several of the karts were bumped from behind, sometimes off the track, and the gangsters doing the bumping then went on to win the race.


44 posted on 03/29/2008 1:02:52 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: FreeManWhoCan
That's what they do.

The pack the vehicles full of passengers and every one claims injury. These rear end collisions can result in tens of thousands of dollars for the occupants, corrupt attorneys and chiropractors.

Many times the illegal aliens and others have connections to totally corrupt attorneys and chiropractors, and all the alleged injured go to the same doctors and attorneys.

Many times each one of the injured goes to one appointment at their corrupt chiropractor, and then the chiropractor signs them in himself for the next 20 visits or appointments, (they never even show up) and the corrupt chiropractor charges the poor guys insurance company for every visit...The fraud just goes on and on.

First read flag is multiple occupants in the clown car.

45 posted on 03/29/2008 1:06:43 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Bernard Marx

“I hate threads like this: the gangs might pick up some ideas.”

Very good point. Sometimes with these urban legends some nitwit says “hahaha it would be funny to put syringes in a payphone slot like I herd about in that email” and you end up with a self fulfilling prophecy.

I know the streets and know all about the shenanigans that go on, but in this case with the “gang collision” scenario it is the result of trolls* spreading disinfo. * note that is not directed at the OP.


46 posted on 03/29/2008 1:14:25 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Bernard Marx

“Zebra killings”

Wow. That is one that doesn’t come up often. Crazy stuff, death squads or death angels or whatever the hell they called themselves.

IIRC those dudes were NOI?


47 posted on 03/29/2008 1:17:43 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Let's Roll

Those SUVs are armed, they kill people all the time.
susie


48 posted on 03/29/2008 1:27:50 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: freema

Reminds me of one in high school where we were told to be careful because gang members were hiding under cars to cut Achille tendons.


49 posted on 03/29/2008 1:28:13 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: Mr. Jeeves; Bernard Marx

Beggin’ yer pardun, Mr. Jeeves, read the snopes link at Post #26.


50 posted on 03/29/2008 1:50:21 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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