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How to avoid a Democratic disaster
Boston.com ^ | March 29, 2008 | Mario Cuomo

Posted on 03/29/2008 11:48:28 AM PDT by Bobkk47

A DEMOCRATIC disaster in the November election looms, but it can be avoided by a demonstration of true leadership by the two candidates.

By the end of the primary process, no matter how robust the turnout appears, less than half of all Democratic voters will have expressed their preference. And because the primaries will have extended over such a long period, some voters will have changed their preference by the convention in August. Other entanglements also threaten the possibility of a selection at the convention that would be supported by both constituencies of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Two states with significant Democratic strength - Florida and Michigan - may be denied votes, and the specific role of the superdelegates may become a matter of possibly irresolvable contentiousness.

Meanwhile the Democrats come closer to the end of the primary process without a clear choice for president, with alienation between their candidates growing, while the Republican candidate John McCain gathers strength unmolested within his own party and comforted by the squabbling among Democrats.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008dncconvention; cuomo; democrats; disaster; election

1 posted on 03/29/2008 11:48:29 AM PDT by Bobkk47
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To: Bobkk47

“but it can be avoided by a demonstration of true leadership by the two candidates.”

LOL, yeah right. Dream on. “True leadership” requires competence.


2 posted on 03/29/2008 11:51:18 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Bobkk47

“How to avoid a Democratic disaster” Easy, don’t vote for them.


3 posted on 03/29/2008 11:52:18 AM PDT by Third Order
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To: Bobkk47

I have this picture in my head, Obama and Hillary on the bow of the Titanic.


4 posted on 03/29/2008 11:52:32 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: A_Former_Democrat
True leadership also requires putting the ‘good of the party’ above their own ambition.

Fat chance of that.

5 posted on 03/29/2008 11:52:41 AM PDT by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD)
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To: Bobkk47
Neither Obama or Hillary are going to agree to a "Dream Ticket." The two candidates do not want to be also-rans. And the eventual nominee wants to work with someone he feels comfortable with and trusts. The fact Mario Cuomo advanced such an idiotic notion only underlines the depth of the Democrats' dilemma. I call it schadenfreude as their quarreling is such a pleasure to watch.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 03/29/2008 11:53:21 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Bobkk47

“Democratic disaster”....now those are two words that go together!


7 posted on 03/29/2008 11:53:43 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character; Being Coddled Destroys Character)
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To: Bobkk47
Think of it, over the next eight years we could elect both the first woman and the first African-American to become president. That's not a dream: It's a plausible, achievable, glorious possibility - if our two remaining candidates have the personal strength and wisdom to make it happen.

That's a big ring to kiss, Mario.

8 posted on 03/29/2008 11:54:51 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Bobkk47

I thought the two “d” words were synononomous.


9 posted on 03/29/2008 11:55:00 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Bobkk47

We shouldn’t want a repeat of ‘68 because some of that was pretty tough. But a good trainwreck would be fascinating to watch.


10 posted on 03/29/2008 11:55:11 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: goodnesswins

Aren’t they really redundant?


11 posted on 03/29/2008 11:56:05 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
Its a pity one of them can't be co-President. Such a solution was actually mooted by the Ford and Reagan camps in the summer of 1976. Maybe the Democrats will agree to a rotation Presidency. Two years for Obama and two years for Hillary and they rotate again in a second term.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

12 posted on 03/29/2008 11:58:24 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Bobkk47

What they need is one of those team-building exercises. You know, like Obama gets lowered down a cliff with Hillary belaying the rope. Trust, baby. You just gotta trust.


13 posted on 03/29/2008 11:58:39 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: goodnesswins
DemocraticDemonic disaster”....
14 posted on 03/29/2008 11:59:56 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: Bobkk47

Hey, I got a great idea! A Dumb / Dumber ticket!


15 posted on 03/29/2008 12:04:14 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Bobkk47

“but it can be avoided by a demonstration of true leadership by the two candidates.”

Neither of them qualify as leaders. That’s the original problem.


16 posted on 03/29/2008 12:08:43 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: Bobkk47

His Arrogance Pope Mario the Pious has spoken, so SILENCE, you ignorant peasants!


17 posted on 03/29/2008 12:12:25 PM PDT by elcid1970 (io)
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To: RightWhale

It is too late,we are going to see far worse than 1968.We are past the point of no return.


18 posted on 03/29/2008 12:13:16 PM PDT by TLEIBY308 (I AM PRO CHOICE,I BELEIVE EVERYONE SHOULD CARRY WHAT EVER GUN THEY CHOOSE)
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To: Bobkk47
Meanwhile the Democrats come closer to the end of the primary process without a clear choice for president, with alienation between their candidates growing, while the Republican candidate John McCain gathers strength unmolested within his own party and comforted by the squabbling among Democrats.

So the Democrat's need to become molesters to help further their agenda. /snicker

19 posted on 03/29/2008 12:13:23 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: TLEIBY308

No, we haven’t seen anything like ‘68 and we should hope we don’t.


20 posted on 03/29/2008 12:16:09 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Bobkk47
How to avoid a Democratic disaster

Why would anyone want to do that?

21 posted on 03/29/2008 12:21:06 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: Bobkk47
while the Republican candidate John McCain gathers strength unmolested within his own party

Mario, asienta me! Tu sei provio'no sfachime!

Still!

ML/NJ

22 posted on 03/29/2008 12:21:12 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: RightWhale

I just think what is in store for this aug. is going to make 68 look like a walk in the park.Hillary is going to get the dem nod and all hell will break loose.


23 posted on 03/29/2008 12:21:40 PM PDT by TLEIBY308 (I AM PRO CHOICE,I BELEIVE EVERYONE SHOULD CARRY WHAT EVER GUN THEY CHOOSE)
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To: Bobkk47
Other entanglements also threaten the possibility of a selection at the convention that would be supported by both constituencies of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

Gee, how non-democrat party of them to create an issue and then create another issue to resolve the first issue. /s

The dem's are lacking at resolving issues even when they create them.

What they need to do is focus on blaming someone else. Oh, wait a minute....

24 posted on 03/29/2008 12:21:51 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: RightWhale
No, we haven’t seen anything like ‘68 and we should hope we don’t.

Why?

25 posted on 03/29/2008 12:22:37 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: TLEIBY308

We get signal


26 posted on 03/29/2008 12:23:06 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Maceman

Main screen turn on


27 posted on 03/29/2008 12:24:06 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: TLEIBY308
It is too late,we are going to see far worse than 1968.

Somebody made the bed, now WE get to lay in it.

28 posted on 03/29/2008 12:24:21 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Bobkk47

“Democrat Disaster”

Sounds like the name of a mixed drink. Put dry ice and vodka in a 2-liter plastic pop bottle and screw the lid on tight, then run like hell away from it.


29 posted on 03/29/2008 12:24:38 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Disambiguator
“Democrat Disaster”

Sounds like the name of a mixed drink. Put dry ice and vodka in a 2-liter plastic pop bottle and screw the lid on tight, then run like hell away from it.

ROTFLMAO!!

30 posted on 03/29/2008 12:31:46 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: ml/nj

Roberto Gigante (aka Bob Grant) LIVES!!!


31 posted on 03/29/2008 12:38:21 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Bobkk47
Note the lack of interest in any real policy prescriptions in the passionate, childish wish below:

"...Think of it, over the next eight years we could elect both the first woman and the first African-American to become president. That's not a dream: It's a plausible, achievable, glorious possibility - if our two remaining candidates have the personal strength and wisdom to make it happen.

"...The joint statement announcing their agreement would rock the nation and resound across the globe - sweeter than any political poetry; smarter and more meaningful than any tightly intelligent political prose.

Surely we, are indeed, slouching with hosannas toward Gomorrah.

32 posted on 03/29/2008 12:58:29 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: Bobkk47
How to avoid a Democratic disaster

Find a candidate who doesn't hate America.

33 posted on 03/29/2008 1:02:26 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Bobkk47
Why is the election process so loooong and drawn out? Is the schedule a legacy of the rail age; when it took a lot of time to get around the country to speechify, and kiss babies?
34 posted on 03/29/2008 1:08:55 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Bobkk47

I like watching two Marxists in a fight to the death (McCain is only a brain-dead left-wing globalist).

Maybe hillary and obama can re-inact the seige of Stalingrad at the rat convention in Denver.


35 posted on 03/29/2008 1:15:58 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Governments hate armed citizens more than armed criminals)
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To: Bobkk47
Obama and Clinton can - by putting aside personal irritations, and to some extent personal aspirations, and agreeing to end the hostilities and form a ticket that offers both of them, a candidate for president and a candidate for vice president who is clearly good enough to serve as president, should the occasion arise.

Yeah, but that ain't gonna happen.

36 posted on 03/29/2008 1:18:26 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Bobkk47
How to avoid a Democratic Democrat disaster

Easy. Don't vote for one.

37 posted on 03/29/2008 1:24:09 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Bobkk47

Barry ain’t takin no advice from a garlic nose.


38 posted on 03/29/2008 1:25:22 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Stentor
If Obama were at the top of the ticket he would need a food taster and if he took Veep spot Bill Clinton would edge him out. I see no advantage for Obama being part of this supposed dream team.
39 posted on 03/29/2008 2:36:39 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: RightWhale
We shouldn’t want a repeat of ‘68 because some of that was pretty tough. But a good trainwreck would be fascinating to watch

JMO, Denver 08 will make Chicago 68 look like a garden party.

40 posted on 03/29/2008 2:39:52 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
I have this picture in my head, Obama and Hillary on the bow of the Titanic.

"We are birds!! We can FLY!!"

BONK!

41 posted on 03/29/2008 2:45:11 PM PDT by LiberConservative (Part of the "Vast Typical White Guy Conspiracy")
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To: mimaw
if he took Veep spot Bill Clinton would edge him out.

"Barry. We need someone to investigate that Ebola outbreak. Hillary just can't go and I got to go to see this business contact down to the airport Marriott."

42 posted on 03/29/2008 2:54:02 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: TLEIBY308

One can only hope.


43 posted on 03/29/2008 3:12:42 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: RightWhale
If neither blink, and Hill wins or appears to be winning it will be far worse than 1968. And we have the repeat 68 nut cases going to the convention to riot regardless and get everything started.

While I don't expect any problems at all in my neck of the woods, I intend to man up and be ready. Tis better to have and need not than to need and have not.

44 posted on 03/29/2008 3:41:59 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Bobkk47
How to avoid a Democratic Democrat DEMOniC-RAT disaster

Any DEMOniC-RAT Party disaster is a victory for America.

45 posted on 03/29/2008 9:04:33 PM PDT by Jim 0216
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To: Bobkk47

Wow. The democrats really know how to put the “pain” in “campaign”, don’t they?

Hillary will get the nomination, I think. She holds a trump card, a Nuclear Option, that I haven’t seen anyone discuss. Reading the political tea leaves leads me to this theory of what went wrong for the democrats:

The Dream Team Hillary/Obama fix was a done deal. The plan was eight years for Hillary, then eight years for Obama. The Democrats had a lock on the Whitehouse for the next 16 years. What went wrong?

Obama’s task was to knock John Edwards out in SC, leaving only Hillary and himself standing. When he did better than expected, Michelle got uppity and in their pillow-talk conversations, she whispered into his extremely large ears, “You can have it all now, Barry! You don’t have to be Hillary’s house n*gger for eight years.”

The DNC and DLC, craven cowards that they are, caved in when Obama played the race card. They reneged on The Deal and pulled the rug from under Hillary.

The problem is, Hillary still holds the trump card, the Nuclear Option. If she is denied the nomination, she has the power to destroy the Democratic party for at least a generation by simply launching an independent campaign for the Presidency. She will gladly do this to punish the party for betraying her.

An independent campaign would hand the election to McCain, and set Hillary up for a run in 2012. (Thankfully, if the Mayan Long-Count calendar is correct, the world will end before Hillary is sworn in.)

The alternative is for the party leaders to hand her the nomination, but alienate the young voters and the Black voters that they have taken for granted for decades. The hope is that those wounds caused by the subsequent rioting will heal more quickly than the damage that would be caused by Hillary’s Nuclear Option.

The best hope for party leaders is that Barack ObeyMe will self-destruct, giving them political coverage and a way out of this mess. Otherwise, they may have to kill him to save the party. Finding a White Supremacist patsy would be a bonus. (Secret Service monitors: This is just conjecture. I’m not advocating such an event.)

Either way, Denver ‘08 is shaping up to make Chicago ‘68 look like a ladies’ garden club tea party.

Not a fun time to be a Democrat.


46 posted on 03/31/2008 5:47:59 AM PDT by Bobarian (Your NEED is not a legitimate claim upon MY productivity, thank you very little.)
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