Posted on 03/29/2008 12:05:38 PM PDT by AJFavish
In 1995 Obama stated: "These are mean, cruel times, exemplified by a 'lock 'em up, take no prisoners' mentality that dominates the Republican-led Congress" and "that white Americans couldn't care less about the profound problems African-Americans are facing."
http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/archive/barackobama/
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"This doesn't suggest that the need to look inward emphasized by the march isn't important, and that these African-American tribal affinities aren't legitimate. These are mean, cruel times, exemplified by a 'lock 'em up, take no prisoners' mentality that dominates the Republican-led Congress. Historically, African-Americans have turned inward and towards black nationalism whenever they have a sense, as we do now, that the mainstream has rebuffed us, and that white Americans couldn't care less about the profound problems African-Americans are facing."
"But cursing out white folks is not going to get the job done. Anti-Semitic and anti-Asian statements are not going to lift us up. We've got some hard nuts-and-bolts organizing and planning to do. We've got communities to build."
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Regards,
Allan J. Favish
http://www.allanfavish.com
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I think he meant to say black americans like him could care less.
Not smart of B. Hussein Obama.
I did not feel that way in 1995, but I sure as hell do now. Thanks to people like Obama.
What are the specific problems facing white Americans and how should they band together to solve them?
At first embarrassed by his race and African name, he soon bonded with the few other African-American students. He quickly learned that integration was a one-way street, with blacks expected to assimilate into a white world that never gave ground. He participated in bitter bull sessions with his buddies on the theme of “how white folks will do you.” Obama, who had to reconcile these sentiments with the loving support he had at home from his white mother and grandparents, dismissed much of his buddies’ analysis as “the same sloppy thinking” used by racist whites, but he found the racism of whites to be particularly stubborn and obnoxious.
It's both and neither all at the same time.
I found this quote particularly interesting:
“We have no shortage of moral fervor,” said Obama. “We have some wonderful preachers in town—preachers who continue to inspire me—preachers who are magnificent at articulating a vision of the world as it should be. In every church on Sunday in the African-American community we have this moral fervor; we have energy to burn.
“But as soon as church lets out, the energy dissipates. We must find ways to channel all this energy into community building. The biggest failure of the civil rights movement was in failing to translate this energy, this moral fervor, into creating lasting institutions and organizational structures.”
Does Pastor Wright present what “should be”?
Yep, after decades of preferential treatment and being given every opportunity to succeed, the Black community is still screaming discrimination and blaming every social ill that has befallen them on White America. Obabarama was/is right. I couldn’t care less at this point.
Wow. Where to start.
First, I think Barry is right to a certain extent. There, undeniably, are whites who don't care what blacks are facing are going through. By and large those whites are Liberals but they are whites nonetheless.
Taking the importance of a father out of the home and replacing it with Government was an idea put into practice almost by entirely by white politicians. Signed into law by the highest white person in the land at the time, Lyndon B. Johnson.
They even gave it a messianic title: The Great Society.
Like the article, I could go on and on and on.
And on.
And on.
But what good would that do? Barry Obama doesn't give a flying fig about what blacks are facing either. He's willing to perpetuate the misery for his own personal political gain.
Just like Whitey.
He can't do it on the minority vote alone.
So Obama’s white half didn’t care about the problems of his black half?
Wrong
“mainstream has rebuffed us”
Yeah, it “us (obamites) v. them (whiteyhood)”
“We’ve got some hard nuts-and-bolts organizing and planning to do. We’ve got communities to build.”
And God help us if we vote into the presidency a man with this concept of how success and prosperity is achieved.
I have been saying for months that Obama and his wife are angry, belligerent, anti-white racists. Obama is adept at veiling his racism, but his wife, (who is not proud of America), and his spiritual leader, "pastor" Wright, (probably the most aggressive racist there is, are frightening examples of how Obama sees himself. You don't marry a belligerent biggot and take a hateful racist who cannot stop assailing whites and Jews for your pastor and spiritual leader unless they pretty much reflect your own ideology.
The "change" Obama talks about is the government backed elevation of blacks into various positions and places of power that they are not qualified to handle, and the repression of "whitey". "Whitey" will carry on their backs the weight of the lazy, as welfare and other government aid programs rise exponentially under a President Obama. If Affirmative Action seems like reverse discrimination to you now, if Obama gets elected President just wait and see what he'll pull out of his black bag of racism. He'll probably make Pastor Wright Ambassador to the Middle East, where he and the sheiks will sit down together and plan how to destroy America.
‘lock ‘em up, take no prisoners’
I'm curious, what exactly are blacks "facing" in America today?
These evil people who make these hateful statements, and the ones who say only whites are racist, must think they are God. How do they know what other people are thinking, or what we believe!? Of course he is wrong to make a statement like this. Most decent people DO care about their fellow Americans. In order to keep the racial divide alive forever, they will just spew out this nonsense. Damn them for the harm they have done to the world.
Where's Captain Kirk when you really need him?
I too am becomming more angry and more bigoted. I do not think any one race is superior to another, so i am not a racist. However the “black-africanamerican” culture is what I hate. Violence, entitlement, apathy, lack of responsibility and “gettin’ over on the system” in and out of employment.
I am being told now that the marching I did for equal rights in the late sixties and the integration movements I was part of in the 70’s didn’t matter diddly....I am still a “typical white person” ( said with disgust and disdain ).
You are not moving us all ahead Barry Obama ...you are moving us BACK! Back into the racial divide. BAck into pushing the ‘white guilt”. Problem is, all those “whiteys” that wanted to move forward in the 60’s and 70’s, including those Jews that you hate that died in Mississsippi for your “cause”.....well, guess what? Go it alone now!!!
Congratulations, Barry Hussein Obama...you have done what sharpton and Jesse never quite could...you have divided white and black AGAIN!
Something about shabby neighborhoods, edgier and less-restrained yoots, glowering brothers in prison, middle-class flight to the suburbs, etc.
You know. Stuff.
I wonder if it has occurred to Barry that all these problems blacks are facing in South Chicago are the still there decades after being addressed by white Liberals. And black Liberals.
Re: the newbie’s self-contradictory “lock ‘em up, take no prisoners”, I knows which one I prefers.
That's just hate.
“white Americans couldn’t care less about the profound problems African-Americans are facing.”
How about this:
All Americans couldn’t care less about the profound
problems poor white trash Americans are facing.
Where is the NAAPWT?
Perhaps we can start to be honest about what blacks actually expect from whites. Blacks will complain they they are being neglected and whites don't care, yet often when whites do show interest, their efforts are rebuffed, or twisted into claims of racism and oppression.
As white person I tend to treat people with benign indifference. I simply get up in the morning, go to my cubicle for 8 hours, and then come home. Is this neglect? Possibly, but at least its an evenhanded neglect. If blacks would like to deal drugs and shoot each other, and live their lives in prison, or if they want to study and graduate from Harvard, I will still live my life the same way.
Its up to each individual to choose their own lives.
But I see what you are getting at. The problem isn't whites who are non-caring, it's whites who promote themselves as being all-caring. And those whites are almost 100% Liberal. Well, maybe 90% Liberal and 10% Moderate.
Will racial victimhood EVER end??????
Exactly. When black kids, especially males begin taking their education seriously...and stop dressing and acting like thugs, things will get much better for them.
“Unfortunately, the dialog Obama suggests is only one-way. Look at the disparate reactions to what Imus said as compared to the outright racist, hate-speech of Obama’s pastor. As well, the treatment of corrupt White politicians as opposed to corrupt Black politicians, and on and on through to OJ.
No, the dialog that is suggested by many in the Black Community and their non-Black acolytes is that Society adopt/accept many of the aspects of Black Society including incarceration rates, out-of-wedlock birth rates, graduation rates, murder/crime rates, etc. and there is no compromise or societal change needed from their end.
I do not see where any kind of dialog with this value system is possible.”
So Obama’s been an opportunistic hate-monger for quite a while.
“Problem is, all those ‘whiteys’ that wanted to move forward in the 60’s and 70’s, including those Jews that you hate that died in Mississsippi for your ‘cause’.”
This article may help:
>http://web.archive.org/web/19990427143249/www.wiesenthal.com/resource/Blackdem.htm<
From article:
Someone has observed that: “We can rarely bring ourselves to forgive those who have helped us the most”
You are right. If they can’t dialogue wioth Cosby , Steele and Clarence thomas and Sewell...good grief!
This article was written in 1995. Where did he get the money to be a philanthropist?
This article was written in 1995. Where did he get the money to be a philanthropist?
The Obama families’ pastor, Jeremiah Wright, like his teacher and mentor, James Cone, even tell God who he has to be in order for blacks to accept him. Their arrogance knows no bounds.
James Cone:
“Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.” Divine Racism: http://www.amazon.ca/God-White-Racist-Jones-W/dp/toc/0807010332
Here’s a 20 minute YOUTUBE interview with James Cone (hear the racist hate-monger for yourself): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1X5sZ6Q4Fw
To hear James Cone give a lecture about his Marxist / racist theology, go to this link from the Ingersol Lecture website: Ingersol Lecture 2006. Strange Fruit: The Cross and the Lynching Tree. http://www.hds.harvard.edu/news/events_online/ingersoll_2006.html The actual lecture starts about 8 1/2 minutes in. Whole video lasts about 90 minutes.
“I couldn’t care less at this point.”
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Anyone who says, “I couldn’t” rather than the standard for today,”I COULD care less”, has my instant respect. I salute you.
And just who was running the White House and all government agencies in 1995? The GOP didn’t take over the Congress till January 1995 ... not likely that within that very year things culd possibly have suddenly gotten so bad for blacks.
Its getting to the point that we can’t care less.
“I am being told now that the marching I did for equal rights in the late sixties and the integration movements I was part of in the 70’s didn’t matter diddly....I am still a “typical white person” ( said with disgust and disdain ).”
The new, young Democrats who the Democrats are so proud to have registered have been quick to throw out those who are considered to be The Establishment. Keep in mind Obama himself is 46 - a baby boomer. Many of the ones who are screaming about stolen elections in 2008 (Cuyahoga County, Ohio primary) weren’t screaming with the rest of their party in the general elections of 2000 and 2004. The Democrats couldn’t be more crass than they are today and yes, they have instantly taken us back to the sixties. Why they want to bring back those turbulent times is beyond me - but then, as a member of The Establishment, I guess I don’t know what I’m talking about (or what I remember). I heard someone call into - ummm - was it Hannity? - well anyway, a Dem called into one of the conservative talk shows and said that he had contacted the DNC and expressed his dissatisfaction with the anti-Israel comments (he happens to be Jewish) and was basically told to take a flying leap. Nice.
I know McCain isn’t suitable for true conservatives, but I really hope that in November Republicans of all kinds will come together and vote for him.
On a related note involving alleged voter irregularities which particularly impacted the African American community in Ohio:
“Obama’s first action in the Senate was to decline to be the Senate co-sponsor of a move to question Ohio’s Electoral College votes following the 2004 presidential election. He then voted against the resolution.”
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Barack_Obama
I'll see that and raise you one "looser", as in: "That guy is a real looser."
Kudos to ya both!
I think somebody needs to make a "speach" about that, "irregardless" of what anybody else thinks. The "speach" should "definately" have lots of "pacific" detail's. ;-)
Maybe it’s because white americans have their share of problems too that they’re not continually blaming another group for?
Perhaps they have enough problems of their own that they cannot be distracted with the problems of others?
Oh-I forgot. White people have it all locked up, so they have no problems. Still keeping the other ones down after all these years. Blah, blah, blah.
Does The Tragedy of Racial Division Still Haunt America Today? If It Doesn’t, We’ll Make Damn Sure It Does! Film at Eleven!
I spent the entire 1990s in the San Francisco Bay Area, working and also going to graduate school at Cal. The amount of opportunity in this area over that decade was astounding. I saw with my own eyes who took advantage of that opportunity and who did not. The truth of black poverty is simply different today in 2008 than it was 40 years ago in 1968. Those black folks in the Bay Area who are under 40 today grew up without legal segregation or discrimination and benefited from affirmative action. They also have lived in a place that enjoyed great diversity and open-mindedness and experienced an economic expansion the likes of which the world has rarely seen. That there are huge swaths of unproductive, impoverished, disfunctional and criminalized people after such a period of opportunity when every other group succeeded far more than they did points to an internal, cultural source for their relative failure.
Jesse and Al are gonna be PISSED!
I have been so naive all these years. I feel betrayed.
But I know that not all African-Americans believe this hate, and spew this anger.
I will not let their anger turn me into hate.
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