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Police warn gang may stage rear-end collisions, assault motorists (Buffalo NY)
http://www.buffalonews.com/258/story/308523.html ^ | 3/29/08

Posted on 03/29/2008 5:10:37 PM PDT by Sammy67

By T.J. Pignataro - News Staff Reporter 03/26/08

A public alert was issued early this evening by Buffalo Police, warning that a gang could be staging rear-end collisions tonight on area roadways and then attacking drivers as part of an initiation ritual.

Commissioner H. McCarthy Gipson called an emergency news conference at police headquarters just before 6:30 p.m. to make the announcement.

He said police received "credible information" late this afternoon suggesting that the initiation ritual could involve gang member recruits intentionally causing rear-end collisions and then robbing or assaulting the other driver.

Gipson suggested motorists be aware of their surroundings. If they do become involved in a rear-end collision, he suggested they drive to a well-lit area and immediately call 9-1-1 from a cellular telephone, if they have one. Gipson also suggested motorists stay in their vehicles and continue moving until police arrive.

The Central American gang involved is considered "very well armed" and dangerous. It has a history of violence in other parts of the country but is new to the Buffalo area, Gipson said.

"This is the first time we've heard of this gang making inroads into the area," Gipson said.

Gipson wouldn't provide the name of the gang so as not to give the gang "notoriety."

The gang is known to the FBI to

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Open Borders Thanks George Bush!
1 posted on 03/29/2008 5:10:38 PM PDT by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67
Would they be more or less likely to run into your car if they knew you had a firearm to protect yourself?

If this is just a bash-Bush thread, I won't check back for an answer.

2 posted on 03/29/2008 5:14:44 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (How much worse would things be if Eve had been "empowered?")
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To: Sammy67

Ten bucks says this is an urban legend.


3 posted on 03/29/2008 5:15:21 PM PDT by Xenalyte ("A cat can give birth to kittens in the oven. That don't make 'em biscuits." - Quanell X)
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To: Sammy67

Good job on that border after 9/11 George!


4 posted on 03/29/2008 5:18:10 PM PDT by omega4179 (Olympics,showcasing communism and fascism 71 years)
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To: Xenalyte

Rochester has over 3,000 gang members now roaming the area, Buffalo has even more!


5 posted on 03/29/2008 5:18:29 PM PDT by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67

Which is interesting but irrelevant. Experience tells us that 90% of these “gang alerts” are false.


6 posted on 03/29/2008 5:19:18 PM PDT by Xenalyte ("A cat can give birth to kittens in the oven. That don't make 'em biscuits." - Quanell X)
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To: Xenalyte

Lets hope so!


7 posted on 03/29/2008 5:20:38 PM PDT by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67; mikrofon; The Mayor
The Central American gang involved is considered "very well armed" and dangerous.

Or maybe these tropicos just can't drive in the snow for sh*t.

8 posted on 03/29/2008 5:22:28 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Sammy67

Should someone check Snopes on this? Sounds like the ‘drive with the headlights off and kill you if you flicker your lights at them’ myth.


9 posted on 03/29/2008 5:22:28 PM PDT by Southerngl
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To: Xenalyte

http://www.snopes.com/crime/gangs/carbump.asp


10 posted on 03/29/2008 5:23:25 PM PDT by glock rocks ( So what if I'm just another frustrated drinker with a writing problem.)
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To: Sammy67

Isn’t the best advice to make sure you have a loaded handgun in your car at all times, and shoot to kill?


11 posted on 03/29/2008 5:23:26 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Sammy67; All

Hmm...

Am sposed to head for Buffalo Monday. Am rethinking my plans. Before you all tell me not to be intimidated, please know my seriously ill husband (Parkinson’s) depends on me to care for him.

Some trips just aren’t worth the risk of having one’s normal routine disrupted.


12 posted on 03/29/2008 5:23:31 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: Southerngl
Snopes sez Undertermined
13 posted on 03/29/2008 5:23:34 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Sammy67
Their little trick wouldn't work here in the Florida Panhandle, especially if they try to pull it on a pickup.

Every vehicle here may be considered ARMED unless you see a Hillary bumper sticker on it.

14 posted on 03/29/2008 5:25:46 PM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: Sammy67

This is a cruel HOAX, taking advantage of the gullability of Buffalo cops. No gang would be so INEFFECTIVE as to initiate a STUPID plan like this.


15 posted on 03/29/2008 5:26:58 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: Southerngl

Snopes says it’s undetermined:
http://www.snopes.com/crime/gangs/carbump.asp

It did say the Buffalo PD is taking it seriously based on a shooting which happened earlier in the month. You can scroll down almost to the end and read that part (it won’t cut and paste—sorry).
Anyway, the article quotes some who say it’s a hoax as well.

susie


16 posted on 03/29/2008 5:28:28 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Sammy67
He said police received "credible information"...

A chain email? ;)

17 posted on 03/29/2008 5:29:09 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (I wrote the original “That’s The Ticket” Skit for SNL.)
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To: 2harddrive

Snopes says it’s undetermined.


18 posted on 03/29/2008 5:31:53 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Sammy67

This hit our area a day or two ago. Police issues press release. Turned out to be nuthin.


19 posted on 03/29/2008 5:34:56 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Xenalyte
Ten bucks says this is an urban legend.

Yeah, wasnt there something about flashing high beams or something that turned out to a myth?

20 posted on 03/29/2008 5:37:21 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Do I need a Sarcasm tag?)
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To: Sammy67

Bush’s border policies are problematic to say the very least, but to start blaming Bush for gang violence is an absurd stretch, the kind of ridiculous cause-and-effect connections that liberals try to make. Eg. “The Katrina victims suffered needlessly because Bush had our troops overseas instead of here to hand out bottled water.”

The real problem here is a justice system that has become so infested—perhaps “infected” is a more appropriate word—with liberalism that looks for minutiae that will allow barbaric criminals to roam our streets.

It’s a pathetic commentary on the state of our society that every major city in this country has to deal with known bands of violent thugs roaming our streets, and we are apparently powerless to do anything about it.

MM (in TX)


21 posted on 03/29/2008 5:38:05 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: Xenalyte; EarthBound
Ten bucks says this is an urban legend.

You'd be out 10 bucks.

22 posted on 03/29/2008 5:39:56 PM PDT by MacDorcha (Arm yourself!)
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To: Sammy67
Jeez, can't these gangs think of anything original? Serial rapists and muggers have been using this ploy for decades.
23 posted on 03/29/2008 5:39:56 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Xenalyte
Ten bucks says this is an urban legend

You win

24 posted on 03/29/2008 5:39:56 PM PDT by Jim Noble (I've got a home in Glory Land that outshines the sun)
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To: brytlea

It’s clear that Snopes thinks that the Buffalo PD are simply trying to cover their embarassment at being had by an urban legend, but they’re giving them the benefit of the doubt at the moment.


25 posted on 03/29/2008 5:41:43 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: cardinal4
Yeah, wasnt there something about flashing high beams or something that turned out to a myth?

The security officer at the military base where I work was fooled by the flashing high beams urban legend e-mail a couple months ago, sent out a base-wide e-mail.

26 posted on 03/29/2008 5:43:14 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: MississippiMan
Bush’s border policies are problematic to say the very least, but to start blaming Bush for gang violence is an absurd stretch

If you believe that, you'll believe anything. Thanks for the laugh.

27 posted on 03/29/2008 6:04:05 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Sammy67

Whatever happened to be armed and aware?


28 posted on 03/29/2008 6:07:16 PM PDT by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Sammy67
Had that in a news report down here in NC. Along with the text message that was starting it and a police report that there is no facts supporting the allegations.
29 posted on 03/29/2008 6:10:05 PM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: the invisib1e hand

“If this is just a bash-Bush thread, I won’t check back for an answer.”

You are absolutely correct! We ALL KNOW the borders were very safe and secure by all the presidents previously!
I will not be back on this thread either.


30 posted on 03/29/2008 6:13:08 PM PDT by ConfidentConservative (“I think, therefore I am conservative.”)
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To: Sammy67
You're smart.

31 posted on 03/29/2008 6:15:22 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Strategerist

That’s how I read it.

susie


32 posted on 03/29/2008 6:15:55 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Sammy67

I had people playing “tap my bumper” 30 years ago and I would just wave to them and get the hell out of there. They didn’t do any damage but they wanted me to stop and get out so they could play with me.


33 posted on 03/29/2008 6:18:01 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Xenalyte

Urban legend or not, it would be great for the anti-illegal movement. All that’s needed is to think that they’re becoming more of a problem and maybe this can be nipped in the bud before it DOES.

Who needs this country turned into another Mexico?


34 posted on 03/29/2008 6:21:11 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: martin_fierro; Sammy67
In my experience, you'd be more likely to find a local pastor in a strip club than being bumper-bumped by a Guatemalan gang member...

(That said, there are still a lot of locals who cant drive in the snow for sh!t ;)

35 posted on 03/29/2008 6:21:12 PM PDT by mikrofon (Passing time in WNY)
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To: Xenalyte; Strategerist; Sammy67
Ten bucks says this is an urban legend.

I don't know about this report, but they've car jacked, and killed many unsuspecting people on the road, but mostly they'll just drive up along side and shoot you in the head when they want to prove how bad they are to their buddies.

In addition, illegals, and gang members have been staging collisions for years, strictly for $$.

They pack the vehicles full of passengers and every one will claim injury after getting someone to rear end them. These rear end collisions can result in tens of thousands of dollars for the occupants, corrupt attorneys and chiropractors.

Many times the illegals and others have connections to totally corrupt attorneys and chiropractors, and all the alleged injured generally go to the same doctors and attorneys.

Many times the "injured" will go to just one appointment at their corrupt chiropractor, and then the chiropractor signs them in himself for the next 20 visits or appointments, (they never even show up) and the corrupt chiropractor charges the poor guys insurance company for every visit...The fraud just goes on and on.

First read flag is multiple occupants in the clown car.

36 posted on 03/29/2008 6:22:24 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

The police in Houston also received and circulated this threat.

Funny how they can beef up patrols when they expect a higher number of drunk drivers.

But when it is a higher number of vehicular accidents or car jackings, the public should rely on their own inner strengths (as long as that does not include carrying any sort of a weapon).


37 posted on 03/29/2008 6:26:32 PM PDT by weegee (Famous moments in history: March 18th, 2008 “I have a bridge (to sell you)...” - Barack H. Obama)
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To: glock rocks; Xenalyte
FWIW, another source....

Buffalo Police alert remains in effect for drivers

38 posted on 03/29/2008 6:28:49 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: metmom
Urban legend or not, it would be great for the anti-illegal movement.

Fear mongering for a political end? Nice.

39 posted on 03/29/2008 6:29:41 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (I wrote the original “That’s The Ticket” Skit for SNL.)
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To: mewzilla
Meanwhile, from CA....

Delano police: Gang attack threats may be hoax

40 posted on 03/29/2008 6:30:49 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Fundamentally Fair

What? Illegals aren’t dangerous?


41 posted on 03/29/2008 6:31:53 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: mewzilla
Then again...

To all citizens of Delano and surrounding area (MS-13 alert)

42 posted on 03/29/2008 6:33:31 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: metmom
What? Illegals aren’t dangerous?

Nice diversion, but that's not what you said.

43 posted on 03/29/2008 6:34:50 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (I wrote the original “That’s The Ticket” Skit for SNL.)
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To: evilrightwingconspirator

ping


44 posted on 03/29/2008 6:35:48 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Fundamentally Fair
Fear mongering for a political end? Nice.

And people think I'm nuts for thinking there's quite a community of people that are frustrated and disappointed that there hasn't been a major terrorist attack in the US from anyone coming across the Mexican border.

45 posted on 03/29/2008 6:55:35 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Sammy67

clearly MS13. I live in a big city, this is a different variation of an old tactic. This used to be a tactic for insurance fraud.


46 posted on 03/29/2008 7:04:07 PM PDT by beericus
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To: martin_fierro

I read “False” on your link to them, not Undetermined.


47 posted on 03/29/2008 7:10:43 PM PDT by Southerngl
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To: martin_fierro

Oh, I realize that they changed from earlier in the day. Poor Buffalo PD.


48 posted on 03/29/2008 7:14:24 PM PDT by Southerngl
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To: Xenalyte
Ten bucks says this is an urban legend.

I doubt VERY much that it is an urban legend. Sounds real to me.

49 posted on 03/29/2008 7:14:41 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Sammy67

It doesn’t happen in Texas. Thank you, George W. Bush.


50 posted on 03/29/2008 7:36:46 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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