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The Islamic Response To Fitna Continues To Prove Film's Point
STEVELACKNER.COM ^ | March 29, 2008 | Steven W. Lackner

Posted on 03/29/2008 8:10:51 PM PDT by stevelackner

It seems the Islamic world will do anything to continue to prove the point that the Dutch parliamentarian was making with his new film "Fitna." The film showed a number of verses in the Koran interspersed with Islamic sermons, footage of terrorism, and Dutch newspaper headlines.

It started with liveleak.com, the first website to share the video, pulling the video from their website after only one day because of serious threats to their staff. As LiveLeak put it, "in the end the price was too high." So the response to a video showing an Islamic prediliction toward violence and terrorism is intimidation and violent threats.

A Jihadist website responded to the video by posting in Arabic that "if there is no check on the freedom of your words, then let your hearts be open to the freedom of our actions." This was along with a picture of Osama bin Laden and the World Trade Towers burning in the background. These words have been attributed to Bin Laden himself, his response in a more recently released tape to the famed Danish cartoons.

The Organization of the Islamic Conference added its voice to the criticism of the film released by the Dutch lawmaker. OIC Secretary General Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu condemned "in the strongest terms the release of the film 'Fitna' by Dutch lawmaker Geert Wilders." This is their full right, to object if they so please. But, pray tell, would it not be more productive and appropriate if the OIC were condemning clearly, constantly, and loudly the throat slitters, head choppers, and suicide bombers that murder innocents, both Muslim and non-Muslim alike, in the name of Islam?

A militant believed linked to al-Qaida's deputy chief Ayman al-Zawahri, Qari Mohammed Yusuf, told The Associated Press last week that "foreigners will be attacked. The situation will change, change, change" because of the film. Whether this is true or not is yet to be seen, but that there is truth in the film that is being proven by the Jihadist response is undoubtable. Furthermore, hundreds of Islamists staged angry protests across Pakistan over the film. This may not seem like a lot, and it is a relatively small number compared to the response to the Danish cartoons, but it does not take many people to carry out Jihad operations. The Taliban has also threatened retaliation against Dutch troops in Afghanistan.

Now comes Omar Bakri, the Libyan-based Jihadist Muslim cleric who has been barred from Britain. He makes the exact point that "Fitna" itself was making in no uncertain terms. He says exactly what Wilders film itself meant to say. Bakri did not think the film was very offensive at all. He said, "On the contrary, if we leave out the first images and the sound of the page being torn, it could be a film by the Mujahideen."

The Human Rights Council has also gotten in on the action. The U.N. Human Rights Council, which is dominated by Arab and other Muslim countries, adopted a resolution Thursday in a 21-10 vote. It said the Council was concerned about the defamation of religions and urged governments to prohibit it. Interestingly, the only religion specified as being attacked is Islam, to which eight paragraphs refer. It is well known that the Human Rights Council is a joke, and this only goes to prove it. But the response of the Arab and Muslim dominated Council should not surprise anyone. And I raise the same objection I did earlier with the OIC. Condemnations of the film were also heard from the UN Secretary General who said "there is no justification for hate speech or incitement to violence. The right of free expression is not at stake here.” Why is the right of free expression not at stake here? Is the right of free expression not at stake when Muslims sensitivities are offended? I saw the film and I personally saw no incitment to violence either. What I did see was a film depicting how the Islamic religion and its holy book are being used by the ones who are truly violent and hateful to justify their actions.

The response from the Islamic world was predictable. It is what we have come to know all too well. Empty condemnations of hate speech but hardly ever a condemnation against terrorism itself. There have also been threats and promises of violence, which we can only pray will not be fulfilled. No one has happened to be killed over this. But then again, that's why the Dutch lawmaker has a constant security detail. Al-Qaeda websites have already posted photos of Wilders with statements such saying, "The Dutch, enemy of Allah, has done what he threatened to do and distributed his film." Whether one fully agrees with the content of Wilder's film, or his politics, has become irrelevant at this point. The response of the Jihadis has shown us that the free world must be willing to stand up for his right to express himself and must end the cowtowing to Islamofascist intimidation.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; dutch; filmjihad; fitna; freedomofspeech; globaljihad; islam; islamofascism; jihad; religionofpeace; wilders

1 posted on 03/29/2008 8:10:53 PM PDT by stevelackner
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To: stevelackner

Good post. Welcome to FR.


2 posted on 03/29/2008 8:12:33 PM PDT by jdm (Sign you've got a crappy job: your boss asks if you're on MySpace and if you'll add him as a friend.)
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To: stevelackner
Geert Wilders' film is controversial only because it depicts Islamists using their own justifications for jihad. They just dislike being depicted for who they actually are - not that they disagree with the film's portrayal of them and their agenda.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 03/29/2008 8:13:13 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; SJackson; wagglebee; ExTexasRedhead; justiceseeker93; SandRat; Alouette

The Religion Of Peace strikes again!


4 posted on 03/29/2008 8:14:07 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Those in the national Republican leadership do the work of three men- Moe, Larry, and Curly.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Watch the movie and link it to everybody. These mooselimbs must be defeated. It is nothing but a false cult of death. It is heretical. Never forget. NEVER FORGET!!!!!!!!!!


5 posted on 03/29/2008 8:18:13 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: shankbear

There were a lot of video segments in the film that had dropped off the world radar. It’s nice to see them back.


6 posted on 03/29/2008 8:21:19 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: stevelackner
Omar Bakri, the Libyan-based Cleric... said, "...if we leave out the first images and the sound of the page being torn, it could be a film by the Mujahideen."

Bingo!

7 posted on 03/29/2008 8:21:20 PM PDT by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: stevelackner
Image hosted by Photobucket.com don't laugh at me... I KILL YOU!!!
9 posted on 03/29/2008 8:22:50 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Shine a light and the cockroaches run for cover. For jihadists, I live in Colorado. I can give you 79 Virginians.


10 posted on 03/29/2008 8:24:19 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Not liking my choices in this election!)
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To: Ronin
Exactly! And if this film is not representative of Islam, why aren't we hearing mainstream Muslims denounce the extremists who commit atrocities in the name of Islam instead of trying to shut down Wilders? As Wilders said, Islam needs to clean up its own house. And as long as Muslims applaud and tolerate those who commit terrorism and violence in the name of their religion, Wilders' criticisms will continue to resonate with non-Muslims the world over.

Our message to Islamofascists is that we will never submit to becoming dhmmis and we will never pay the jiyza again. If their terms are for us to give our religious beliefs and our freedom, they will face a fight to the end of the world.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 03/29/2008 8:27:13 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: stevelackner

Muslims should be educated to the fact that the West values freedom over Islamic dogma.


12 posted on 03/29/2008 8:27:31 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: stevelackner
Welcome to FR. I doubt that other countries—the EU countries included—have something like the 1st Amendment.
13 posted on 03/29/2008 8:28:25 PM PDT by paudio (Michelle Obama: a Typical Black Woman)
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To: Chode
Image hosted by Photobucket.comdon't laugh at me... I KILL YOU!!!

14 posted on 03/29/2008 8:28:57 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: goldstategop

BTTT


15 posted on 03/29/2008 8:29:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: stevelackner

D-E-P-O-R-T


16 posted on 03/29/2008 8:30:40 PM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben, reports to Parris Island on June 30.)
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To: MtnClimber

I live in Texas and you jihadist wussy pig humpers come on down. You will be fed to the fire.


17 posted on 03/29/2008 8:32:10 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: Chode

every time i watch that achmed video, i laugh my butt off. don’t forget to google “jingle bombs” on youtube for another laugh. :)


18 posted on 03/29/2008 8:35:26 PM PDT by robomatik ((wine plug: renascentvineyards.com cabernet sauvignon, riesling, and merlot))
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To: stevelackner

19 posted on 03/29/2008 8:36:48 PM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The UN should never take a stand against truth and start to uphold lies. This matter should be taken to court to decide what is true. Islam is not the truth, and it can be proven.


20 posted on 03/29/2008 8:40:37 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: robomatik
Image hosted by Photobucket.com gotta love it...
21 posted on 03/29/2008 8:43:33 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: stevelackner

Another blog pimp joins Free Republic.


22 posted on 03/29/2008 8:51:50 PM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Chode

Why am I obsessed with the idea of setting 1000 mousetraps outside the door to a mosque and then throwing in some cartoons? I know that’s not right.


23 posted on 03/29/2008 8:58:26 PM PDT by Sender (Stop Islamisation. Defend our freedom.)
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To: stevelackner
Nothing says it better than this:


24 posted on 03/29/2008 8:59:40 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Sender
Image hosted by Photobucket.com i'd make a good cartoon... 8^)
25 posted on 03/29/2008 9:01:07 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: stevelackner


26 posted on 03/29/2008 9:02:47 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth to a Liberal, is like a crucifix to a vampire))))
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To: stevelackner

Good one, thank you.


27 posted on 03/29/2008 10:06:48 PM PDT by Katarina
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To: stevelackner

Hey, Osama bin Laden: Mo'Ham-Mud the pig here wants you to suck his butt some more, right now.

28 posted on 03/29/2008 10:18:05 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: Post Toasties

Of course, bin Laden has probably been dead for years. If he is alive, he is a typical Fundamentalist Islam coward who is afraid to come out into the open.


29 posted on 03/29/2008 10:23:56 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: stevelackner

United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon expressed his fear that the posting to the Internet of Dutch politician Geert Wilders’ “Fitna”—a film linking Islamist violence with passages from the Koran—would “incite retribution.”

Ban said that “while freedom of speech sounds good in theory, its advocates are overlooking the risks. The Koran bids Muslims to spare unbelievers who submit and pay the jizya. But does Wilders acknowledge this option for peaceful coexistence with Islam? No. He one-sidedly focuses on the consequences to those who stubbornly reject this offer.”

“We must recognize that the real fault lies not with the Muslims, but with those who would place their values ahead of those of other cultures,” Ban continued. “The West’s failure to yield the right-of-way is responsible for the collision with Islam. The sooner we learn to comply, the safer we will all be.”

Following the release of his film, several Islamic web sites have posted Wilders’ picture in hopes that “someone may carry out Allah’s command against this infidel.” There have also been the usual street demonstrations in Muslim countries where mobs demand that Wilders be “butchered.”

read more...

http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm


30 posted on 03/29/2008 10:31:11 PM PDT by John Semmens
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Schicklgruber was friends with 'em


31 posted on 03/29/2008 11:01:31 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: stevelackner

TROP, I hope, is digging a very deep hole for themselves..


32 posted on 03/29/2008 11:01:31 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: popdonnelly

The West also values freedom over Islamic doggerel..


33 posted on 03/29/2008 11:02:30 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: stevelackner

Amen.

The only good muslims are the ones buried in bacon grease.


34 posted on 03/30/2008 2:05:09 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Duncan Hunter- The very Govts unwilling to support us in the WOT got the Fuel Tanker Deal)
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To: stevelackner
Wonder what our good ex-Muslim now supposed Christian infidel Hussein Obama thinks about all this


35 posted on 03/30/2008 2:42:29 AM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: John Semmens
Ban said that “while freedom of speech sounds good in theory, its advocates are overlooking the risks. The Koran bids Muslims to spare unbelievers who submit and pay the jizya. But does Wilders acknowledge this option for peaceful coexistence with Islam? No. He one-sidedly focuses on the consequences to those who stubbornly reject this offer.

Uh, and a fellow with a sign, "Freedom: Go to Hell" IS a recipe for "peaceful coexistence?"
36 posted on 03/30/2008 9:03:30 AM PDT by kelsiejackson
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To: metesky; stevelackner
Another blog pimp joins Free Republic.

But what the heck,

you're welcome!

Glad to have you with us!

(Even though we may not ever mention it again.)

37 posted on 03/30/2008 9:36:32 AM PDT by Excellence (Daughter of the American Revolution, neice of the Civil War (North).)
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