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The 'Traditional Muslim Behavior' Defense
Opinion Journal (Best of the Web) ^ | 03/28/2008 | James Taranto

Posted on 03/30/2008 9:34:18 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen

Shoura Council Chairman Dr. Saleh Bin-Humaid has urged US authorities to review the case of Homaidan Al-Turki, a 37-year-old Saudi student who was found guilty in a Colorado state court of 12 counts of sexually assaulting his Indonesian maid. . . . Al-Turki, a former Ph.D. student at the University of Colorado, maintains that he did not sexually assault the woman, whose identity has not been disclosed due to the nature of the alleged crime, and has accused US officials of persecuting him for "traditional Muslim behavior." . . . Al-Turki, who had been a graduate student in Colorado for nine years, was sentenced in August 2006 to 20 years for the rape charges and eight years for theft of the maid's wages. Memo to our friends the Saudis: If you're trying to improve the image of Islam in the West, invoking "traditional Muslim behavior" to defend a rapist is probably not a good idea.

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KEYWORDS: islam; mohammedanism; muslimstudents; rape; sexualassault; slave; slavery; trop
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"a graduate student in Colorado for nine years"; Are you kidding me? I wonder what he was studying..
1 posted on 03/30/2008 9:34:19 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

“a graduate student in Colorado for nine years”; Are you kidding me? I wonder what he was studying..”

Infrastucture, highway bridges, food processing plants, dams....


2 posted on 03/30/2008 9:36:26 AM PDT by Keith Brown (Among the other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised Machiavelli.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Jihad


3 posted on 03/30/2008 9:36:52 AM PDT by Joiseydude
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To: Kid Shelleen
"invoking "traditional Muslim behavior" to defend a rapist is probably not a good idea."

But it's such an accurate description of that good old "legacy" of Islamic "civilization"...to say nothing of defending child rapists.
4 posted on 03/30/2008 9:39:40 AM PDT by kelsiejackson ("We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail." Invincible Eagle.)
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To: Kid Shelleen
Nine years of college down the drain!


5 posted on 03/30/2008 9:46:02 AM PDT by jaz.357 (When you throw mud, you lose ground.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Based on this defense we would be permitted to bring back the Inquisition. See how many of them enjoy being piked, staked or quartered. What a crock, not to mention a total waste or our resources to permit them entry without major concessions.


6 posted on 03/30/2008 9:48:23 AM PDT by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: kelsiejackson
Well you know what Shoura Council!-- We here in the West have our rules and laws, just as you do, so don't hand me that Old Classic Islamic Bull crap, he should have stayed in his Muslim Country if he wanted to rape and enslave a young woman, we need to put that jerk away for the rest of his life--20 years is not long enough.

Let's see what the good old liberal as hell Colorado Court does with this one!

7 posted on 03/30/2008 9:48:54 AM PDT by oswegodeee (Dee ( Born and raised in the south, with a gracious attitude ))
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To: jaz.357

8 posted on 03/30/2008 9:49:11 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen (All things shall be well; You shall see for yourself that all manner of things shall be well)
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To: jaz.357

Nine years of college down the drain

Nah, he’ll use it to convert other prisoners to the Muslim faith.


9 posted on 03/30/2008 9:49:50 AM PDT by buck61
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To: Kid Shelleen

He’s in our country, our laws and our culture ... castrate him according to Muslim law .....


10 posted on 03/30/2008 9:52:45 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: kelsiejackson

Gosh, I wonder if someone used the phrase “typical male Muslin behavior” in Obama’s presence, would he yell and scream about that too? Liberal lawyers using a “typical” defense for criminals is a hoot.


11 posted on 03/30/2008 9:54:19 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Kid Shelleen
Shoura Council Chairman Dr. Saleh Bin-Humaid has urged US authorities to review the case of Homaidan Al-Turki, a 37-year-old Saudi student who was found guilty in a Colorado state court of 12 counts of sexually assaulting his Indonesian maid.

US authorities should, indeed, review the case, and then Federally prosecute Muslim pervert Al-Turki for civil rights violations of the maid's US Constitutionally protected rights.

Upon the imposition of a Federal consecutive life sentence, the prosecutor should thank Dr. Bin-Hunaid for the tip off.

12 posted on 03/30/2008 9:56:40 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate.)
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To: Gumdrop
B.O. wouldn't say "nuthin'", but his Grand Inquisitor Jeremiah "Kill Honky" Wright sure would:
"Look a'yoo huh-MOJJJ-eh-nye-zin', y'typ'cal white man!"
13 posted on 03/30/2008 9:58:09 AM PDT by kelsiejackson ("We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail." Invincible Eagle.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Recently read an interesting blog on why it is that feminists don’t come down on Islamofascists for this crap.

The just of it was that only white, male, Judeo-Christian, western countries can do anything wrong.

Islamofascists are only “misunderstood”.


14 posted on 03/30/2008 10:01:23 AM PDT by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Islam in a nutshell. All you need to know.

This IS “Traditional Muslim Behavior” for the last 800 years or so.

Its what makes the alliance between IslamoFascism and the democrats/socialists/liberals so amazing, at least until you recognize the core of brutal totalitarianism they all share.


15 posted on 03/30/2008 10:05:10 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: Kid Shelleen
I wonder what he was studying..

How to take off and steer an airplane, but not the landing stuff.

16 posted on 03/30/2008 10:06:41 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: FormerACLUmember

“This IS “Traditional Muslim Behavior” for the last 800 years or so.”

Reminds me of a post here a few months ago about a British colonial governor in India in the 19th Century. There were complaints that his troops were keeping families from throwing the dead husband’s wives onto his funeral pyre. The governor was told that this was “traditional behavior.” His reply was something like, “Fine. Let them behave in the manner of their tradition, and then we will hang them in the manner of ours...”


17 posted on 03/30/2008 10:13:21 AM PDT by Clioman
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To: Kid Shelleen

Muslim men don’t rape. Muslim women who are raped, are prosecuted for having sex with a man other than their husband. That’s your traditional Muslim behavior.

Hey Achmed, our country our rules. You will finally find out what it is like to get raped when you are sent to prison.


18 posted on 03/30/2008 10:21:02 AM PDT by infantrywhooah (Hold your nose and vote in November. Even McCain is better than the alternatives)
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To: oswegodeee

He’ll be out in 11 months...start watch.......now.


19 posted on 03/30/2008 10:27:40 AM PDT by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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To: Kid Shelleen
. Al-Turki, a former Ph.D. student at the University of Colorado, maintains that he did not sexually assault the woman, whose identity has not been disclosed due to the nature of the alleged crime, and has accused US officials of persecuting him for "traditional Muslim behavior." . . .

Fair is fair. They cut our throats for traditional Infidel behavior. - Tom

20 posted on 03/30/2008 10:33:11 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Kid Shelleen
.....and eight years for theft of the maid's wages.

He didn't treat the maid as good as a prostitute!

21 posted on 03/30/2008 10:43:30 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: Keith Brown; All; 1035rep; 1curiousmind; 4woodenboats; 2ndDivisionVet; 5Madman2; 68skylark; ...

For some time now my sources have been telling me that Iranian Revolutionary Guard members, members of the Bassiji Supression forces and key agents of the Iranian Ministry of Information & Security (MOIS or VEVAK in Farsi) have arrived in increasingly large numbers at universities in Denver COLORADO, Texas and Berkeley, California.

They are here as already trained and indoctrinated sleeper cells to spring into action for destructive anti-American actions (suiciders in shopping malls, IEDs on our freeways, attacks on our electricity grids etc.

And in the meantime to act as “influence centers” among university students to promote the Mullah talking points and block or deflect any anti-Iran mind sets they encounter. Or anti-Islam sentiments.

They are also there to get “crowds” together as needed for movements like the Mohammad cartoons.

These “long term” students have little or no intent to graduate UNLESS it is to take up a teaching position where they can continue their assigned activities.

Originally, my sources were going to provide names of those arriving but instead gave me pages of names without location of Islamic Iranian scientists, professionals etc., inside the USA and some in Europe, sorted by Category.

If anyone can use a copy, please drop an Email to info@antimullah.com with an address (P.O.BOX or whatever suits your privacy) and a copy will be mailed to you.


22 posted on 03/30/2008 11:05:51 AM PDT by FARS
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To: the_daug

He thought that he is in heaven and met his first virgin.
Doncha understand?


23 posted on 03/30/2008 11:07:31 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee!)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


24 posted on 03/30/2008 11:12:59 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: FARS

Interesting, thank you.


25 posted on 03/30/2008 11:17:17 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: FARS

Back to you later.


26 posted on 03/30/2008 11:17:31 AM PDT by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: FARS
Where in Tx?
27 posted on 03/30/2008 11:21:19 AM PDT by kelsiejackson ("We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail." Invincible Eagle.)
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To: FARS

Thanks!


28 posted on 03/30/2008 11:25:17 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Kid Shelleen
Traditional Western Behavior


29 posted on 03/30/2008 11:32:24 AM PDT by Bobalu (What do I know, I'm a Typical White Guy)
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To: Thud

fyi


30 posted on 03/30/2008 11:40:39 AM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: FARS; george76
Thanks for the ping...

Nine years in graduate school, George? Who chairs the board?
31 posted on 03/30/2008 11:43:38 AM PDT by BIGLOOK
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To: Clioman

That is such a great retort. Would be nice if ONE person in any particular place in our government would speak those words.

The Brit, I like that. Thanks,


32 posted on 03/30/2008 12:11:21 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Kid Shelleen
Homaidan Al-Turki, a 37-year-old Saudi Eigth-year PhD student...It may sound cynical, but terror-supporting radical Muslims possibly abuse their "education visas". /sarc
33 posted on 03/30/2008 12:33:14 PM PDT by ricks_place
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To: FARS
They are here as already trained and indoctrinated sleeper cells to spring into action for destructive anti-American actions (suiciders in shopping malls, IEDs on our freeways, attacks on our electricity grids etc.

Our country isn't going to get serious about it until they do commit a number of serious attacks.

34 posted on 03/30/2008 1:01:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (Beijing 2008 - Berlin 1936. Olympics staged for murdering tyrant regimes.)
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To: ricks_place

This is the kind of ‘stuff’ that happens when a country allows itself to be colonized. Eventually the newcomers start demanding special rights and a separate legal system (Sharia).


35 posted on 03/30/2008 2:16:24 PM PDT by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: FARS; All
They are here as already trained and indoctrinated sleeper cells to spring into action for destructive anti-American actions (suiciders in shopping malls, IEDs on our freeways, attacks on our electricity grids etc.

For crying out loud, I hope SOMEONE in DHS/FBI is tracking these terrorists, but I'm not going to hold my breath. They should have never been allowed into this country in the first place!

36 posted on 03/30/2008 2:42:33 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Kid Shelleen
...has accused US officials of persecuting him for "traditional Muslim behavior."

He insists on continuing his barbaric practices in my country. Very well, I will practice mine.

Let's erect a gallows and practice our own "traditional behavior."

37 posted on 03/30/2008 3:30:27 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Keith Brown
...chemistry, agricultural technology, getting a pilot's license...? /off A.A.C.
38 posted on 03/30/2008 4:38:31 PM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: Bobalu
AMEN and AMEN! A.A.C. mohammadanism
39 posted on 03/30/2008 4:53:16 PM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

How about some “traditional” Christian behavior, circa 1100 AD. Kill every Muslim you come in contact with, sack their cities, covert their women. How’s that for tradition?


40 posted on 03/30/2008 4:57:32 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Fred Nerks; USF

A list worth having, copying, sharing...pursuing relentlessly! I have already requested a copy via private e mail, which will be shared with several influential friends in law enforcement and other walks of life.

A.A.C.

The good ol’ days are back, and so am I - with a vengeance! Watch out muzzies, me and my friends are bringin’ HELL with us. This is the Final Crusade - saddle up, and ride hard!


41 posted on 03/30/2008 5:00:06 PM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: Republic of Texas

Don’t fall for the leftwing PC myths about the crusades.

The Crusades were conducted as a DEFENSIVE act against the jihadi muslim hoards.

Read the Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades for more info.


42 posted on 03/30/2008 5:11:40 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: AmericanArchConservative

The Traditional Muslim Behaviour Defence...they tried that here in Australia when 14 muzzie scumbags packraped a girl in Sydney -

How’s that work? Well, in the toilet-paper book they call holy, seems it says that if a girl is a captive, then it’s fine to rape her...

So what did they do? They CAPTURED her! They captured her, took her to a park in their car, used their cell-phones to call their friends - and because she was koranically their captive-slave, they used her and abused her, called her an aussie slut and then hosed her and used her again.

That’s the Traditional Muslim Behavious Defence. Got the ringleaders (brothers) 45 years in jail. Their sister, a loud mouthed piece of work, denied repeatedly her brothers committed rape. Aussies just couldn’t understand her attitude. Neither could they fathom how the parents could abuse the judge in defence of their sons.

If it’s ok in the koran, if it’s their ‘religion’ how could we possibly treat what they did as a crime?

ONCE SHE WAS A CAPTIVE SHE WAS THEIR PROPERTY!

IMO MUSLIM IMMIGRATION IS A CRIME AGAINST THE CITIZENS OF WESTERN COUNTRIES!


43 posted on 03/30/2008 5:20:36 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (a fair dinkum aussie)
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To: MrB

I already know that, thanks. That’s why I felt free to bring it up. I’m in favor of another one, if anyone asks.


44 posted on 03/30/2008 5:38:42 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: AmericanArchConservative

Hey AAC, good to have you back!

Islam is a cancer, WE have the answer.


45 posted on 03/31/2008 2:44:53 AM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade)
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To: Republic of Texas

Me too.

Too bad the left threw a hissy when Bush mentioned a crusade to wipe out terrorism following 9/11.

Well, actually, too bad Bush & Co CAVED to the hissy fit.


46 posted on 03/31/2008 5:50:33 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Mrs.Z
Recently read an interesting blog on why it is that feminists don’t come down on Islamofascists for this crap.
It's a manifestation of the old axiom, "the enemy of your enemy is your friend."
47 posted on 03/31/2008 7:25:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: FARS; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
Al-Turki, who had been a graduate student in Colorado for nine years, was sentenced in August 2006 to 20 years for the rape charges and eight years for theft of the maid's wages.
Thanks FARS.
48 posted on 03/31/2008 7:25:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I believe his case should be reconsidered. He should be hanged for these brutal rapes, not incarcerated. We should show subhuman criminal filth the same consideration Muslims show criminals in their societies. If he wants Muslim justice, make him suffer and bleed before dying. Works for me.


49 posted on 03/31/2008 12:37:24 PM PDT by Imperial Warrior
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To: Kid Shelleen
Are you kidding me? I wonder what he was studying...

It's obvious... he was in the "Women's Studies" program. /s

50 posted on 03/31/2008 3:34:19 PM PDT by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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