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Obama sails to victory in Dallas County district conventions
Dallas News ^ | March 30, 2008 | GROMER JEFFERS Jr.

Posted on 03/30/2008 10:46:46 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

Packed delegates at times 'a nightmare' for Dallas County districts

Barack Obama cruised to victory over Hillary Rodham Clinton in Dallas County's Senate district conventions Saturday, as Texas Democrats continued their arduous and sometimes frustrating process of choosing national convention delegates.

Mr. Obama had double-digit leads in all five of the county's Senate districts, mirroring his electoral power here in the March 4 primary. Statewide, the picture was less certain, though Mr. Obama started the day with a caucusing advantage because he won the first round, precinct conventions held the night of the primary.

That may mean he can win more overall delegates in Texas even though Mrs. Clinton won the initial primary vote, as Mr. Obama's campaign claimed in a triumphant statement late Saturday. The Clinton campaign scoffed at that and predicted a strong showing once all the results were counted.

Moody Coliseum, where delegates waited hours in line. The packed conventions cemented for some that the "two-step" system of having caucuses after a primary vote is probably not suited for such a large state. Thousands of Texans spent hours in school gyms , other venues Saturday, arguing at length about credentials and other matters – all for a handful of delegates among thousands to the convention that will nominate either Mr. Obama or Mrs. Clinton for president.

Delegates alternated between boredom and frustration. At one district, police were summoned to keep the proceedings calm.

"What you have is people who are energized by the process," said state Sen. Royce West, who led the convention in his 23rd District and at one point called the process a "nightmare."

"Ninety percent of our convention had first-time delegates. We are developing a farm system," he said.

Texas Democratic Party Chairman Richie described the scene as "democracy at its finest."

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrat; democratparty; democrats; hillary; obama; tx2008

Delegate Ghalen Warren showed his support for Barack Obama at the District 16 convention Saturday at SMU's Moody Coliseum, where delegates waited hours in line.

1 posted on 03/30/2008 10:46:47 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount

Excuse me, but Dallas County isn’t the entire Lone Star State. He or Hill might get Dallas, Travis, and a handful of counties along the border, but they will NEVER get Texas.


2 posted on 03/30/2008 10:51:22 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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To: COUNTrecount

Hmmm...how do we know Mr. Warren is not one of Rush’s “Operation Chaos” operatives?


3 posted on 03/30/2008 10:51:30 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (Could pacifists exist if there weren't people brave enough to go to war for their right to exist?)
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To: COUNTrecount

What sort of idiot system of election process is wrought by Democrats? Texas already had it’s day to vote March 5th....that another day is designated for the caucus delegates to re-vote is STUPID. RUSH can’t take complete credit for Operation Chaos.....the moronic Dem party system does it to itself.


4 posted on 03/30/2008 10:58:29 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: COUNTrecount

Dallas county is soooo blue


5 posted on 03/30/2008 11:00:05 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: tflabo
What sort of idiot system of election process is wrought by Democrats? Texas already had it’s day to vote March 5th....that another day is designated for the caucus delegates to re-vote is STUPID. RUSH can’t take complete credit for Operation Chaos.....the moronic Dem party system does it to itself.

It's probably a holdover from the LBJ days, have a "show" primary and then the smoky back room deals kick in.

Texas hasn't mattered for years, except for this one, but it does show the elitism of the Texas democrat party for all to see.

6 posted on 03/30/2008 11:02:23 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: COUNTrecount
Can I ask a dumb question?

Why’d they bother with the primaries?

Seems to me that the dems just keep voting, discount votes and/or, after loosing a vote, miraculously find a box of votes with just the right number to win after all = and now they're also wanting to negate the super delegates at the convention by just giving the anointment to the one with the most votes, or is it delegates , or it is....What time is it?

7 posted on 03/30/2008 11:03:07 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: tflabo

Ok I am just getting this.
Texas has a primary and casts their votes, a winner is declared delegates are awarded and then a causes is held to declare a new winner and re-award delegates.
Is that how it works?


8 posted on 03/30/2008 11:04:53 AM PDT by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: mylife

Dallas County is tons of Hispanics, AA’s and transplanted liberals from eleswhere. I suspect it will be colored blue come Nov. 08. Fortunately the state is still majority conservative at this time.


9 posted on 03/30/2008 11:05:25 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: COUNTrecount

How long does it take Texas Democrats to select their delegates? The primary was on March 4th, for goodness sake.


10 posted on 03/30/2008 11:06:22 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Dane

So, are you saying that the March 4th primary doesn’t count?


11 posted on 03/30/2008 11:08:07 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: svcw

That would seem to be the case. Hold a “primary” so the sheeple think they elected the delegates, then select the actual delegates in smokey back room dealings over the next four weeks.


12 posted on 03/30/2008 11:10:20 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: svcw

Your guess is reasonably close...remember that they were still counting delegates a week after Mar. 5th...then they stopped counting?.... so this is another re-count?
It’s one big Dem cluster muck of a process.


13 posted on 03/30/2008 11:11:09 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: mylife

I’ve been wondering who won the other caucuses. Does anyone know?


14 posted on 03/30/2008 11:12:59 AM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: IM2MAD

I dont know


15 posted on 03/30/2008 11:14:02 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
So, are you saying that the March 4th primary doesn’t count?

Seems like it, given that hillary won the popular vote with 51% of the votes cast, and she will get less than a majority of delegates.

Just commenting on the screwed up Texas democrat party process.

16 posted on 03/30/2008 11:14:55 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Democratic_primary_and_caucuses,_2008


17 posted on 03/30/2008 11:17:26 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mtbopfuyn
This is the'RAT convention in Dallas county. It's overwhelminly black. Another large chunk of the delegates are gay, and they probably thought Obama trendier. They also liked his logo better.


18 posted on 03/30/2008 11:21:35 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: svcw
Is that how it works?

Don't ask me...I'm not a Democrat!

I promise you that the Dems who were there don't have a clue what happened!

19 posted on 03/30/2008 11:21:51 AM PDT by lonestar
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To: Dane

The Democrat primary is a quagmire. And these are the people who lay claim to “reuniting” the country?


20 posted on 03/30/2008 11:22:13 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
The Democrat primary is a quagmire. And these are the people who lay claim to “reuniting” the country?

Exactly, and let's not forget the quagmire of Florida and Michigan.

21 posted on 03/30/2008 11:26:33 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
How long does it take Texas Democrats to select their delegates? The primary was on March 4th, for goodness sake.

Only the allocation of delegates awarded as a result of the primary was decided on March 4. The actual states of delegates have yet to be announced. Both Democrats and Republicans held county conventions in Texas yesterday.

I was a delegate to the Nueces County GOP convention. The main purpose of the convention was to approve the slate of delegates and alternates to the state Republican convention that will be held in Houston in June. We also voted on some resolutions to be forwarded to the state convention to be considered there.

There was a large group of Ron Paul supporters who tried to disrupt the convention by challenging the credentials of the chair of the Nueces County Republican Party and calling for a points of order during the reading of a report by the credentials committee. The chair ran the convention strictly by Roberts Rules of Order and had the Sergeant at Arms, the Nueces County Sherrif Jim Kaelin evict one of them for being out of order. Immediately about 50 of them left to form their own rump convention. There was nothing spontaneous about it. The whole confrontation was designed so they could walk out en mass. They named their own list of delegates and alternates to the state convention and had a list of resoltions they want to forward to the state convetion. I'm sure they will try to challenge the credentials of the delegates from the official Nueces County Republican Party to the state convention, but they will fail.

22 posted on 03/30/2008 12:25:30 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: COUNTrecount

I could be mistaken but, I think I see white person in that crowd. Maybe not....


23 posted on 03/30/2008 12:59:47 PM PDT by no dems (Barack Obama's Pastor is nuttier than a squirrel turd.)
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To: All
This is even more bizarre than my question.
Here is how it works(?), if works is the correct word here.

THE PROCESS IN TEXAS

Texas Democrats allocate their convention delegates in two ways:

126 were determined by the popular vote in the March 4 primary in state Senate districts. Hillary Rodham Clinton won 65 delegates; Barack Obama got 61.

67 are determined by conventions, held at the precinct, county/Senate district, and state levels.

24 posted on 03/30/2008 1:29:46 PM PDT by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: COUNTrecount

every time the opptomist Repubilcan thinks Texas is in the bag all they need to do is look at Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and Austin, cities that have been trending back to the DemocRAT like their parents and grandparents for 50 years. We have lost the hold on the purse strings and people don’t trust republicans who are spenders. Look at Rockafeller or any othe RINO in congress - could they be a presidential candidate? If we lose Texas, New Mexico and Colorado the blue states will be way less powerful.


25 posted on 03/30/2008 3:57:11 PM PDT by q_an_a
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