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California (State) senator wants to drop Cold War communist laws
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 3/30/08 | Steve Lawrence - ap

Posted on 03/30/2008 11:59:24 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Sen. Alan Lowenthal thinks it's about time that California removes some of the last vestiges of the Cold War from its laws.

The Long Beach Democrat has introduced a bill that would scrap statutes allowing teachers and other public employees to be fired for being members of the Communist Party.

The measure, scheduled to be considered Wednesday by the Senate Education Committee, also would drop a requirement that representatives of organizations seeking to use school facilities sign a form stating they do not have communist affiliations.

Lowenthal said the measure would drop old laws that were adopted at the height of the Red Scare following World War II and that have been found unconstitutional by the courts.

"Since the fall of the Berlin Wall, the threat between us and communism just isn't there...," he said in an interview. "They are not a danger to our liberty, and the courts have uniformly said that."

But some conservative groups and bloggers have sharply criticized the measure, contending it would lead to the indoctrination of students.

"Less than 20 years after the fall of the communist Soviet Union, California lawmakers are eager to once again begin advancing a political ideology responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent people," Karen England, executive director of Capitol Resource Family Impact, said in a statement.

"Instead of promoting communism in our schools, lawmakers should be focused on actually teaching students to read, write and think for themselves."

The bill still would allow a public employee to be fired for advocating the violent overthrow of the government. That's a tactic the Communist Party USA has disavowed, said John Casey, Lowenthal's chief of staff.

Lowenthal also amended the bill to leave intact a portion of the law that allows a teacher to be fired for trying to give students "a preference for communism."

"That seems to be the part of the bill that caused people the most headaches and was not the part of the bill that Alan had the most interest in," Casey said.

Assemblyman Chuck DeVore, R-Irvine, introduced legislation last year that would have dropped the old anti-communist provisions from the statutes but allowed the firing of public employees who supported terrorist groups.

It was rejected, 7-0, by the Education Committee after the American Civil Liberties Union and California Teachers Association argued that it violated the First Amendment.

Here are some of the other bills facing action this week:

DOWNER CATTLE - On Tuesday, the Assembly Public Safety Committee will consider a bill by Assemblyman Paul Krekorian, D-Burbank, that would prohibit slaughterhouses from selling meat from nonambulatory cattle for human consumption. The hearing comes after an undercover video shot at a Chino slaughterhouse led to the largest beef recall in U.S. history. The video showed workers dragging sick cows with metal chains and forklifts, shocking them with electric prods and shooting them with streams of water.

UNLISTED PHONES - Sen. Sheila Kuehl, D-Santa Monica, has a bill that would ban telephone companies from charging customers additional fees to have unlisted numbers. It's scheduled to be considered Tuesday by the Senate Energy, Utilities and Communications Committee.

CLONED FOOD - Sen. Carole Migden, D-San Francisco, is making another attempt to require food made from the meat of cloned animals to be labeled accordingly. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed the bill last year, arguing that states are prohibited by federal law from requiring food labels. This year's version of the measure is scheduled to be considered Wednesday by the Senate Health Committee.

DRUG TESTING - A bill by Assemblyman John Benoit, R-Riverside, would require random drug testing for welfare recipients. Benoit says the bill was proposed by a Riverside high school student, R.J. Feild, who suffers from spastic triplegic cerebral palsy brought on by his mother's use of illegal drugs while she was pregnant and on public assistance. It's scheduled to be taken up Tuesday by the Assembly Human Services Committee.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: alanlowenthal; california; coldwar; communismkills; communist; laws; nakedcommunist; purge; reddiaperdoperbabies; theredmenace; usefulidiots

1 posted on 03/30/2008 11:59:26 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
They're excluding Communists from Berkeley? If they repeal these laws, how will we notice the difference?
2 posted on 03/30/2008 12:03:44 PM PDT by jmcenanly
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To: NormsRevenge
>>>The Long Beach Democrat has introduced a bill that would scrap statutes allowing teachers and other public employees to be fired for being members of the Communist Party.

Oops, is someone membership showing?

HERE ^^^ Blue Text on Blue Background. Note: MoveOn.org They shared the same donor button until we started posting this here.

3 posted on 03/30/2008 12:04:12 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: NormsRevenge
Goodness...we need those laws now more than ever!

"They are not a danger to our liberty, and the courts have uniformly said that."

?

Somebody might want to check the color of that hack's underwear.

4 posted on 03/30/2008 12:05:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: NormsRevenge

Pro-Communist trash.


5 posted on 03/30/2008 12:06:21 PM PDT by weegee (Famous moments in history: March 18th, 2008 “I have a bridge (to sell you)...” - Barack H. Oba)
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To: NormsRevenge
The Socialist Republik of Kalifornia has been soft on Communists for a long time.

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6 posted on 03/30/2008 12:07:06 PM PDT by infantrywhooah (Hold your nose and vote in November. Even McCain is better than the alternatives)
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To: NormsRevenge

Someone should make this guy read the communist manifesto.


7 posted on 03/30/2008 12:07:28 PM PDT by mtg
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To: NormsRevenge
"Since the fall of the Berlin Wall, the threat between us and communism just isn't there...," he said in an interview. "They are not a danger to our liberty, and the courts have uniformly said that."

Yeah, China, North Korea, Venezuela, and C.ANSWER pose no threat to our nation's stability < /HURL >

8 posted on 03/30/2008 12:07:31 PM PDT by weegee (Famous moments in history: March 18th, 2008 “I have a bridge (to sell you)...” - Barack H. Oba)
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To: weegee

Under this law the California Democrat Party would be free to change their name to what they really are.


9 posted on 03/30/2008 12:11:32 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Not liking my choices in this election!)
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To: MtnClimber

I’m all for the public being alerted to the fact that the party is run by DINO Communists.


10 posted on 03/30/2008 12:13:05 PM PDT by weegee (Famous moments in history: March 18th, 2008 “I have a bridge (to sell you)...” - Barack H. Oba)
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To: NormsRevenge
"The Long Beach Democrat has introduced a bill that would scrap statutes allowing teachers and other public employees to be fired for being members of the Communist Party."

I'm a bit confused: I thought membership in the Communist Party was MANDATORY for teachers in California (and most other states too.)

11 posted on 03/30/2008 12:16:43 PM PDT by LegendHasIt (Noone/Nohow '08)
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To: MtnClimber

california has NO laws it’s wing it by the highest bribe.


12 posted on 03/30/2008 12:21:05 PM PDT by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Since they feel it is an unconstitutional prohibition on association, do these Democrats also feel that members of the Nazi party or other Fascist political organizations should be permitted to become teachers at California public schools?


13 posted on 03/30/2008 12:21:57 PM PDT by weegee (Famous moments in history: March 18th, 2008 “I have a bridge (to sell you)...” - Barack H. Oba)
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To: weegee

Exactly. If the teachers are registered democrats, they already ARE communists!


14 posted on 03/30/2008 12:35:17 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Change.....that's what we will have left in our pockets if a Democrat gets elected president!)
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To: NormsRevenge

With all the problems California faces, this is the legislature’s fix.


15 posted on 03/30/2008 12:48:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Just change the word “Communist” to Islamic. That would be a good idea.


16 posted on 03/30/2008 12:54:35 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: NormsRevenge

I don’t guess we have to wonder about Sen. Alan Lowenthal’s party affiliation, do we?

I say bring back McCartheyism... We need to root out the communists (fascists) and others who only desire the destruction of the USA.

But that won’t happen - too many on BOTH SIDES of the isle would go down in flames...


17 posted on 03/30/2008 12:57:25 PM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: NormsRevenge

“...DRUG TESTING - A bill by Assemblyman John Benoit, R-Riverside, would require random drug testing for welfare recipients. Benoit says the bill was proposed by a Riverside high school student, R.J. Feild, who suffers from spastic triplegic cerebral palsy brought on by his mother’s use of illegal drugs while she was pregnant and on public assistance...”

Makes perfect sense to me. Thus, it will never see the light of day. Nurses have to pass a random drug test to keep their license. Why shouldn’t those of the dependent class have to do the same to receive tax payer money?


18 posted on 03/30/2008 1:00:18 PM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: NormsRevenge

Californica has long been way too low on testosterone to enforce that statute. However, It is simply the first step toward being able to wear the bar and cycle on their lapels and to persecute anyone who might fail to teach communism in their schools.


19 posted on 03/30/2008 1:04:06 PM PDT by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Funny, they don't mind leaving a law on the books that state one must have another person with a lighted lantern walk in front of a moving horseless carriage inside the city limits.....but this law that may thwart a communist MUST go.
20 posted on 03/30/2008 1:07:35 PM PDT by whereasandsoforth (Stamp out liberals with the big boot of truth)
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To: tessalu

Well it’s a thought at any rate.


21 posted on 03/30/2008 1:24:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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To: NormsRevenge

First: eliminate so-called “tenure”.

Communist teachers can jolly well prove their worth each day at work, just like all the rest of us.


22 posted on 03/30/2008 1:25:28 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: NormsRevenge

Sounds like this senator is a bit of a communist himself!


23 posted on 03/30/2008 2:33:00 PM PDT by No Dems 2004 (No Dems in 2008 either)
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To: Calpernia; milford421; Velveeta

Thanks for your post, I had not visited the site in a long time, very updated, same old hate for America.


24 posted on 03/30/2008 3:56:13 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: NormsRevenge
Alan Lowenthal, get out of my life!

In the years leading up to 1998, Lowenthal was part of the Long Beach City council which decided that the best use of the land formerly occupied by the U.S. Navy was to hand it over to COSCO (China Overseas Shipping Company.)

As I was in the process of moving from Long Beach to San Pedro in November 1998, he personally appeared at my door asking for my vote for State Assembly. I informed him that I was moving from Long Beach to San Pedro, and he responded that the Assembly District included San Pedro. Sure enough, it was one of those gerrymandered districts with the two cities connected by a small strip of waterfront land. In short, it was “contiguous – at low tide.”

While in the Assembly, he proudly removed the toll from the Vincent Thomas Bridge. That saved me 50 cents on those occasions when I might use the Bridge to visit Long Beach. It also freed the container truck traffic to use my side of town to exit the port.

Term limits got him out of my Assembly seat and into the State Senate. When term limits force him out of the Senate, where will he go? If there’s no political appointment available, he has an open seat at Cal State University Long Beach – that bastion of academia which legitimized a convicted felon turned avowed Marxist, Ron Karenga – an adopted name meaning “nationalist” – and thus gave us a made-up holiday called “Kwanzaa.”

Karenga is now gone from CSULB. Does Lowenthal want to replace him as “House Marxist?” This legislation would guarantee him a lot of freedom.

25 posted on 04/02/2008 6:38:40 AM PDT by LantzALot (I held out for a Conservative in 1992. What did it get me? Eight Years of Bill Clinton!)
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