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NYT Columnist: USA's Diversity Dampens Welfare Spending, Darn It
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 03/31/2008 4:55:50 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

If only we were all Norwegians, we'd have the high taxes we need and all the welfare we want. But because America is diverse, we selfishly worry that members of other ethnic groups might benefit from our tax dollars. As a result, our taxes aren't high enough and our welfare spending too low.

That in a nutshell is Eduardo Porter's thesis in his NY Times column of today, Race and the Social Contract. Porter, a graduate of Mexico's UNAM who began his journalism career with the Mexican news agency Notimex, is now a member of the NYT's editorial board.

Porter believes that the US needs to make "big investments in the public good" to deal with the "enormous challenge" of "globalization." But that goal is thwarted by our selfishness that in turn is prompted by our diversity.

The columnist begins by noting that, when it comes to taxes and public spending, we rank toward the bottom among developed countries. Now, you might cheer that fact, but Porter sees it as a bad thing. And he cites a number of studies suggesting that in ethnically homogeneous countries, citizens support higher taxes and public spending levels because they're confident their cohorts will be the beneficiaries. But in the more diverse USA, "racial and ethnic antagonism all too frequently limit" public spending.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Mexico
KEYWORDS: diversity; taxes; welfare

1 posted on 03/31/2008 4:55:51 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Selfish, ethnocentric Americans don’t spend enough on welfare ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 03/31/2008 4:56:53 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

when i was working construction back in the ‘70’s, a guy i worked with had a saying when the bums would try to panhandle money from us.........” Get a job, hippie!!!”...still applies today


3 posted on 03/31/2008 4:59:12 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Screw McPain....J. Fred Muggs for POTUS)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Article States, “Americans are not less generous than Europeans. When private charities are included, they probably spend more money for social purposes than Europeans do. But philanthropy allows them to target spending on those they personally believe are deserving, instead of allowing the government to choose.”

Selfish Americans . . .


4 posted on 03/31/2008 5:02:02 AM PDT by onevoter
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“And he cites a number of studies suggesting that in ethnically homogeneous countries, citizens support higher taxes and public spending levels because they’re confident their cohorts will be the beneficiaries.”

Hence, my tagline.


5 posted on 03/31/2008 5:02:53 AM PDT by poobear (Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. God save the Republic!)
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To: onevoter

What’s so telling is that Porter looks upon Americans’ ability to direct their charitable dollars to people they feel are deserving as a BAD thing! He wants the government in charge of charity.


6 posted on 03/31/2008 5:03:35 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Is this puke a U.S. citizen? Oh wait, the Slimes doesn’t care.

Mexico is the shining beacon of corruption and despotism. Viva Zapata


7 posted on 03/31/2008 5:06:15 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Typical leftist who wants to make everyone equally poor by grabbing money from those who work for it and giving it to those whose only work is reaching out their hands to take the money.


8 posted on 03/31/2008 5:09:03 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Maybe if he returned to Mexico and took all of his compatriots with him we’d be more “homogenous” and would be able to better provide for our own brethren. Thus, Senor Porter should set the example and go back to Mexico.


9 posted on 03/31/2008 5:13:43 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“he cites a number of studies suggesting that in ethnically homogeneous countries, citizens support higher taxes and public spending levels because they’re confident their cohorts will be the beneficiaries.”

Cohorts? Cohorts? How about lazy? How about ‘on the dole’? How about ‘without ambition’?

Sorry. This drivel doesn’t pass the smell test. The only selfishness I see is those entitlement-minded ‘takers’ who expect the rest of us to give willingly of the fruits of our own labors, so they don’t have to support their own lousy decision making.

“near the bottom” among the developed countries in terms of levels of taxation? Yep, I’d say that’s a good thing. But it could be a lot better with lower taxes, IMO.

These idiots never chase their own arguments to their logical conclusions. And that conclusion is everyone on the dole, no one working, and the whole house of cards collapses.


10 posted on 03/31/2008 5:15:33 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"What’s so telling is that Porter looks upon Americans’ ability to direct their charitable dollars to people they feel are deserving as a BAD thing! He wants the government in charge of charity."

Of course how else can the sorry a$$ politicos keep their base voters coming back for more. It is a bad thing for career thieves aka politicians.

11 posted on 03/31/2008 5:17:10 AM PDT by federal
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To: onevoter

“But philanthropy allows them to target spending on those they personally believe are deserving, instead of allowing the government to choose.”

HELLLOOOOO! Just what we need, another stinkin’ liberal elitist out and out saying the government knows better what to do with our money that we do. I swear. Hippie duche. These people never get it. Ever.


12 posted on 03/31/2008 5:22:30 AM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
And he cites a number of studies suggesting that in ethnically homogeneous countries, citizens support higher taxes and public spending levels because they're confident their cohorts will be the beneficiaries. But in the more diverse USA, "racial and ethnic antagonism all too frequently limit" public spending.

If African Americans are going to vote as an African-American bloc, educate their children in African-American studies to the exclusion of American history, worship in self-segregated churches, and generally shun association with mainstream society, why should I be going out of my way to support them?

Ditto the Hispanics.

Under any tax scheme you care to postulate, non-Minority Americans are going to wind up paying the lion's share of taxes and under any distribution scheme imaginable, will be recieving far less that a proportional share of government largesse. If our minority populations are going to insist, constantly, on being apart and isolated from non-minority Americans, who pay all the bills, why shouldn't those bill-payers feel less enthusiastic about the whole thing?

I am done with guilt as a motivator, and I suspect a lot of other folks are, too. I give charity through Church, not through government.

13 posted on 03/31/2008 5:23:50 AM PDT by gridlock (If Obama will throw Grandma under the bus, how much worse will he treat you, given the chance?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“But in the more diverse USA, “racial and ethnic antagonism all too frequently limit” public spending.”

I’m sick to death of these philosophers of victimization spouting this crap. In my entire life, in my travels around this country and around the world, I’ve come to know one thing...the opportunities available to EVERYONE, regardless of race, color, ethnicity, are greater in the US than ANYWHERE I’ve ever been. That was true fifty years ago, and it remains true today.
I’m quickly coming to the conclusion that the incessant arguing over these non-issues comes from those whose agenda is predicated on preserving an ‘us versus them’ mentality, supported by fallacious logic and dependant on examples from history that have no bearing on today’s society.

Accepting personal responsibility for one’s own actions is the proper basis on which to build a sustainable social structure.


14 posted on 03/31/2008 5:25:09 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: PubliusMM
...“near the bottom” among the developed countries in terms of levels of taxation? Yep, I’d say that’s a good thing. But it could be a lot better with lower taxes, IMO.

How about "near the top" among the developed countries in letting people keep their own money? How about "near the top" among the developed countries in productivity and standard of living (not at all coincidentally, IMHO). How about "near the top" among developed countries for freedom, political stability and individual liberty?

15 posted on 03/31/2008 5:32:11 AM PDT by gridlock (If Obama will throw Grandma under the bus, how much worse will he treat you, given the chance?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Keep your hand out of my damn pocket, Eduardo. We’re not that kind of friends.


16 posted on 03/31/2008 5:48:10 AM PDT by gridlock (If Obama will throw Grandma under the bus, how much worse will he treat you, given the chance?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
But philanthropy allows them to target spending on those they personally believe are deserving, instead of allowing the government to choose.

Well I'll be .... !!!
I figured there was a reason I only donate to the IRA, but I didn't know what it was.

[If this needs a sarcasm tag .... get help quick]

17 posted on 03/31/2008 5:49:03 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop wont fit)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Don’t you know - we have an obligation to take care of those who won’t take care of themselves!... /sarc


18 posted on 03/31/2008 5:50:11 AM PDT by Hebrewbrother
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To: Condor51
...I only donate to the IRA...

I assume you mean to your individual retirement account, not to the Irish Republican Army!

;^)

19 posted on 03/31/2008 6:01:05 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Porter ends with a pious plea to Americans "to transcend group interests for a common national cause."

GIMMEGIMMEGIMMEGIMMEGIMME!!!!!!! All Hail Hussein, our Dear Savior!!!

rich racist whitey devils...
20 posted on 03/31/2008 6:08:35 AM PDT by rock_lobsta (Client #10)
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To: JimRed
*** I assume you mean to your individual retirement account, not to the Irish Republican Army! ;^) *****

Uh .... yeah .... sure .... of course ;-)

21 posted on 03/31/2008 6:18:59 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop wont fit)
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To: gridlock

Hear! Hear!

Heartily agree.


22 posted on 03/31/2008 6:39:16 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Porter... is now a member of the NYT's editorial board.

A socialist Democrat.... sounds like a perfect fit. I presume he's homosexual?

23 posted on 03/31/2008 8:29:04 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Cailleach

Can’t believe what I read ping.


24 posted on 03/31/2008 8:37:08 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: onevoter
Article States, “Americans are not less generous than Europeans. When private charities are included, they probably spend more money for social purposes than Europeans do. But philanthropy allows them to target spending on those they personally believe are deserving, instead of allowing the government to choose.”

OH, MY, how shocking, allowing individuals to CHOOSE where their charity goes, rather than using the blunt force of the Govt. to FORCE everyone to fit the socialist agenda..... my my, Americans are so outrageously independent, but don't worry, the socialists of the MSM continue to chip away at our freedoms and soon we can be completely in the socialist straightjacket.
25 posted on 03/31/2008 12:03:48 PM PDT by Enchante (Hillary's 3 am phone calls will say that Bill is "ridin' dirty" with a barmaid on the DC Mall)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
We say that there is strength in unity, but it depends on what you mean by the word. Homogeneity is rather a cause of weakness. This is true in biology, and as this Eduardo Porter has unconsciously documented, it's also true in politics.
26 posted on 03/31/2008 5:25:12 PM PDT by Christopher Lincoln
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Homogeneity is rather a cause of weakness.

I doubt that the soldiers who fought the Japanese during WWII might agree.

27 posted on 03/31/2008 5:50:05 PM PDT by Eaker (2 Thessalonians 3:10 “... He that will not work, neither should he eat.”)
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