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Islamic countries want Dutch to ban Wilders movie
Radio Netherlands ^ | March 30 2008 | Sebastiaan Gottlieb

Posted on 03/31/2008 2:32:40 PM PDT by knighthawk

The ambassadors of 26 Islamic countries want the Netherlands to investigate whether the film Fitna made by Dutch right-wing populist MP Geert Wilders can be banned. They asked Foreign Minister Maxime Verhagen whether it is possible to start legal proceedings against the anti-Islam film. The meeting at the ministry in The Hague was attended by ambassadors of countries including Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

Mr Verhagen told the 26 ambassadors he was pleased that responses from the Muslim world up to now had been moderate. He said the public prosecutor was investigating whether any offence had been committed, and the Dutch government clearly distanced itself from the film.

At the same time he called on the ambassadors to ensure Dutch citizens and organisations abroad were protected. "Let's keep heads cool and relations warm," he added. "We know about the concerns and feelings about this film among the international Muslim community, but hurt feelings must never be an excuse for aggression and threats."

"Christian terrorist"

In Indonesia, a few dozen demonstrators protested against Geert Wilders' film outside the Dutch embassy. They waved banners reading "Holland go to Hell" and "Kill Geert Wilders", threw eggs and bottles of water at the building and chanted anti-Dutch slogans. One protestor called on Muslims around the world to kill Mr Wilders, calling him a "Christian terrorist".

The protestors were kept at a distance by police with shields and water cannons. They were all said to be members of the Islamic Defence Front, an organisation whose leader was given a seven-month jail sentence in 2003 for acts of violence. In the city of Magelang on Sunday a few hundred protesters took to the streets to demonstrate against the film. However, the rest of Indonesia has remained calm.

Islamophobia

During a meeting of the Arab League in Damascus on Sunday, Arab leaders spoke of their alarm about growing Islamophobia around the world. The closing statement expressed concerns that Islam was also under attack in countries famous for their tolerance towards other religions and cultures.

In Jordan a group of MPs have asked the government to sever relations with the Netherlands in response to Fitna. "The film insults the Prophet Muhammad and hurts the feelings of all Muslims," said Jordanian MP Ali Dalain.

According to Arnold Heertje, a former professor of economics at the University of Amsterdam, an economic boycott of the Netherlands would have little effect.

"It would amount to a drop of 1.7 percent in our exports if the boycott was applied comprehensively. Probably the effect would be much smaller and possibly zero."

While there have been no demonstrations outside the Dutch embassy in Pakistan, security has been tightened there due to concerns about possible protests. Embassy staff have been instructed to limit their travel and attract as little attention to themselves as possible.

Regret and condemnation

The Iranian government called on Dutch ambassador Radinck van Vollenhoven to protest openly against Fitna. Mr Van Vollenhoven expressed his regret about the film and said the Dutch government condemned it.

There has also been criticism of Fitna from beyond the Islamic world. Austrian Foreign Minister Stephen Smith called the film "highly offensive," and "an obvious attempt to generate discord between faith communities." United Nations General Secretary Ban Ki-moon also said it was "insulting and anti-Islamic".

Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende has warned that there may be more protests to come. "It can sometimes take months for all the reactions to be felt."


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KEYWORDS: deaththreats; filmjihad; fitna; liveleak; netherlands; wilders
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1 posted on 03/31/2008 2:32:41 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: MizSterious; Nix 2; green lantern; BeOSUser; Brad's Gramma; dreadme; Turk2; keri; ...

Ping


2 posted on 03/31/2008 2:33:02 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: knighthawk

> Islamic countries want Dutch to ban Wilders movie

Of course they do!


3 posted on 03/31/2008 2:34:53 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: knighthawk

DEATH TO THOSE WHO CALL ISLAM INTOLERANT!


4 posted on 03/31/2008 2:36:06 PM PDT by Augustinian monk (Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin - Romans 4:8)
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To: knighthawk

How about we ban Islamic Countries, instead?


5 posted on 03/31/2008 2:36:10 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: knighthawk

Does anyone have current links to the movie?


6 posted on 03/31/2008 2:38:51 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: knighthawk
Way too late, it's now gone viral across the internet.

-Traveler

7 posted on 03/31/2008 2:39:29 PM PDT by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: knighthawk

this video didn’t portray a single thing that was not a fact or any event which did not happen.


8 posted on 03/31/2008 2:40:06 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: knighthawk
Gee, I don't ever recall reading about ambassadors of the US government condemning free speech that insults Jesus Christ... Banning a film because "it insults the prophetwannabe Muhammad"? The public prosecutor is investigating the free speech instead of those making the demands and death threats? This is insane!
9 posted on 03/31/2008 2:41:48 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: longtermmemmory

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGndXcM2z6Q


10 posted on 03/31/2008 2:43:08 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: longtermmemmory

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3369102968312745410


11 posted on 03/31/2008 2:43:43 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: longtermmemmory

Part 2....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=BYdoWHIPIw8


12 posted on 03/31/2008 2:44:18 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: knighthawk

I would say “To hell with Muhammed”..... But he’s already there


13 posted on 03/31/2008 2:44:41 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: All

ON THE INTERNET:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020486.php
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/191989.php
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2949546475561399959&hl=en
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4vd6k_fitna-the-movie-geert-wilders-film_news
http://www.google.com/search?q=fitna+torrent

#

blog:

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/192029.php

March 31, 2008
“Fitna Website Hacked by Cyberterrorists!”

blog entry snippet:

“View backup of hacked site here.”
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/ftina_movie_hacked.htm


14 posted on 03/31/2008 2:45:30 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: kingattax

> this video didn’t portray a single thing that was not a fact or any event which did not happen.

In fact, the material was Muslims, in their own words, using pictures that they took and recorded and broadcast. Verbatim. Stacked into a neat, tidy sequence that told a very frightening story.

If Muslims don’t like the result, then that says something pretty ugly about their Death Cult beliefs and the whackadoos that preach in Allah’s name.

Holland should decline to humor them, and instead suggest they issue a fatwa against all of the nutjobs in the movie.


15 posted on 03/31/2008 2:46:21 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: knighthawk

Is it just a coincidence that both the Left and now Islamists see frivolous litigation and inept liberal judges as a means of oppression?
The American conspiracy of crooked trial lawyers has gone global.
Call them—”Shysters Without Borders.”


16 posted on 03/31/2008 2:48:21 PM PDT by Happy Rain
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To: knighthawk

We want Islam to ban the murdering and enslavement of others. Can we work a deal?


17 posted on 03/31/2008 2:48:41 PM PDT by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: knighthawk

notice they ROP wants the Dhimis to do the dirty work for them.

They are trying to use this to push self censorship.


18 posted on 03/31/2008 2:49:19 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Happy Rain

The Mooselimbs can crap in one hand.......oh wait....that hand has the big ass knife in it about to slice some guy’s throat. I watched the movie several times and it is accurate. They can’t stand the truth. Izlamadamadingdong is a cult of death.


19 posted on 03/31/2008 2:50:51 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: knighthawk

The Dutch should agree to ban this movie when islamic countries agree to ban beheading and execution videos as tools of jihad on their newtwork news stations.


20 posted on 03/31/2008 2:51:24 PM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: knighthawk

OK, I’m trying to understand this...the muzzies are upset that someone not a muzzie put together a bit of truth about the Religion of Pieces, and the film maker has hurt their feelings? Right? And, now the muzzies want to kill the film maker?

And, there is some concern about growing Islamophobia? Whodathunkit?

Islam has been at war with civilization for over 1400 years, and we are now in the latest escalation of that war; a war we must win.


21 posted on 03/31/2008 2:51:35 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: knighthawk

> During a meeting of the Arab League in Damascus on Sunday, Arab leaders spoke of their alarm about growing Islamophobia around the world.

Surely they are not that oblivious! Threaten Jihad, blow up innocent civilians, kidnap people and saw off their heads on TV, and then wonder why people have a phobia about them?? They are the stuff that nitemares are made of!

> The closing statement expressed concerns that Islam was also under attack in countries famous for their tolerance towards other religions and cultures.

‘Strewth. If you run a dangerous and intolerant Death Cult, don’t be too surprised if other tolerant countries don’t throw out the welcome mat for you.


22 posted on 03/31/2008 2:52:16 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: navyguy

Seems like the Dutch have already lost control of their nation. It is now being “run” by muslims.


23 posted on 03/31/2008 2:53:36 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: knighthawk

Anybody care to guess how many views Fitna has gotten since it’s release?

Need a figure.


24 posted on 03/31/2008 2:53:37 PM PDT by Joiseydude
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To: Joiseydude

Millions upon millions. I’m trying to find my link that gave these numbers.....


25 posted on 03/31/2008 2:55:31 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: kingattax

Your right but the truth hurts. And these backwards, death-obsessed psychopaths know it and that’s why they want it banned.


26 posted on 03/31/2008 2:55:50 PM PDT by faithinchaos (eternal pessimist, recovering optimist)
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To: knighthawk

Interesting thing about that movie is that there is no dialogue, except for videotapes of known representatives of Islam. An the events depicted in the violence footage also is of events where Muslims claim responsibility.

IOW, they are like the old Rush Limbaugh TV show where he would show video of liberals and let them damn themselveds with thier own words.

How can that be illegal in an even remotely free country?


27 posted on 03/31/2008 2:56:29 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: longtermmemmory

It’s on limewire.


28 posted on 03/31/2008 2:56:42 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: PubliusMM

“and hurts the feelings of all Muslims,”
Poor widdle babies!


29 posted on 03/31/2008 2:56:49 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: knighthawk

I’m convinced. There is no possible way of conciliation with them. They will never admit to being wrong. They have to be expelled from all civilized countries.


30 posted on 03/31/2008 2:57:19 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Expel members of the death cult. You'll sleep better and your children, spouse and dog will be safe.)
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To: Traveler59

>>Way too late, it’s now gone viral across the internet.<<

I love the internet. The truth (like this movie) gets legs and lies (like Hillary’s “sniper fire” incident and Dan Rather) get clearly exposed.


31 posted on 03/31/2008 2:58:02 PM PDT by RobRoy
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Damn, now I have to watch it again! It was quite disturbing the 1st time.


32 posted on 03/31/2008 2:59:22 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: Joiseydude

ON THE INTERNET:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/fitna/
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/filmjihad/

You can look at the number of views on these key words; otherwise, I have no real numbers for views of the movie, overall.

You might check Google in the news section and Google “Fitna.”
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=fitna&btnG=Search+News

http://www.google.com


33 posted on 03/31/2008 2:59:30 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: All

blog:

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/31/liveleak-restores-fitna/

“LiveLeak restores “Fitna”; Video: Indonesians call for Wilders’s death”
POSTED AT 10:25 AM ON MARCH 31, 2008 BY ALLAHPUNDIT


34 posted on 03/31/2008 3:00:47 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: longtermmemmory

http://www.groepwilders.com/Viewdata.aspx?ID=65&CID=4

It’s currently posted there in English, but it’s been pulled from many sites and seems to come and go from others. IMHO, the movie is tame, but that’s by my standards. I’m so sorry its “hurting” Islamic feelings to have even a portion of the truth exposed. I have a collection of “Islamic” produced movies which preach from the Koran about how all non-Muslims should be eliminated and each ends in be-headings of westerners, Christians and/or Jews. They make me physically ill, and hurt my very soul, but I will continue to distribute them in the hopes that someday, someway, we’ll wake up to this insidious threat that is creeping over the planet.


35 posted on 03/31/2008 3:02:19 PM PDT by Drumbo ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats." - Jubal Harshaw (Robert A. Heinlein))
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To: Cindy; NoGrayZone

Thank you


36 posted on 03/31/2008 3:03:15 PM PDT by Joiseydude
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To: Joiseydude

You’re welcome.


37 posted on 03/31/2008 3:04:02 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: messierhunter
"The public prosecutor is investigating the free speech instead of those making the demands and death threats? This is insane!"

No, it's not insane, it's just typical islamic terrorism. Terror and bullyism is how they get things done.

There is no wonder at all why, in this day of liberalism and wimpy western men, the religion of blood has risen up again, demanding foreign nations to respect mohammed. For centuries Western man was too tough, too smart and to wary of islam for them to do much of anything but kill each other. Now, it's different. When the so-called "leader of the free world", (Jorge Bush), has taken up rubbing elbows with sheiks and insisting that mohammedans are "a religion of peace", can anyone really wonder why they've gotten so brave over the past couple decades? Just like dogs, the islamofacists smell the weakness that liberalsim, feminism and self indulgence have brought to western man, and while they move against us we do nothing but take out two useless muslim apendages, Iraq and Afghanistan, while we leave the head and the body, (Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan), untouched, from fear of being condemned by "the world".

Islamaniacs could be easily defeated by a united West, or even a united America, but when division reigns nations become weak, and the cockroaches and vermin suface to feast on the spoils.

38 posted on 03/31/2008 3:10:34 PM PDT by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: knighthawk

Can the truth be made illegal in Holland?..


39 posted on 03/31/2008 3:11:00 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: knighthawk
Mr Verhagen told the 26 ambassadors he was pleased that responses from the Muslim world up to now had been moderate.

Craven. The only response to foreign governments calling for censorship in your country should be a contemptuous and very firm "No".
40 posted on 03/31/2008 3:11:02 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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Interesting tidbit that might come handy, Miracle-Gro’s Organic Choice Blood Meal is made from dried pigs blood.


41 posted on 03/31/2008 3:12:11 PM PDT by Joiseydude
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To: Joiseydude

I can’t find my link. The only things I find are peoples numbers reagrding how many hits, but they dont post any links.

But, what I do find are many many many links to see this movie. the islamofacists might have shut down Liveleak, but they cannot destroy the movie. It’s out there....ALL OVER!!!


42 posted on 03/31/2008 3:14:32 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: knighthawk

Amen.


43 posted on 03/31/2008 3:14:36 PM PDT by PeterFinn (I am not voting for McCain. No way, no how.)
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To: knighthawk
Wow, that's it?
What's the big deal with this film?
I just watched parts 1 & 2 and I must say that I found the film factual and relatively mild..
Islamist extremists have no problem posting their hate filled messages and beheadings or bombing of innocents..
That such a film is deemed controversial and has a hard time finding and ISP to host it says a lot about the pussyfication of our society..
Based on the West's meek attitude towards this film, I'd bet that the muzzies are gonna win..

44 posted on 03/31/2008 3:14:48 PM PDT by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: hosepipe

“Can the truth be made illegal in Holland?..”

When you are overrun w/ islamofascists... yes.


45 posted on 03/31/2008 3:15:45 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: NoGrayZone
[ When you are overrun w/ islamofascists... yes. ]

The odds of ANY in Holland accepting blame for extreme political liberal error is remote.. Germany, France and England learning from Holland might not happen either.. Those three countrys are not known for clear vision.. If they are expecting America to save them again for the third time might not happen.. America has been brain washed by our acadmedy for far too long.. We might be screwed too..

46 posted on 03/31/2008 3:34:26 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

I believe Europe is beginning to be overrun by them as well. If so, they can kiss this American hiney if they think we will jump in and save them. Maybe they ought not to exist. How many times can you “save one from themselves” before you say “to heck with you, save yourself”?


47 posted on 03/31/2008 3:39:50 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: shankbear

Every Muslim is drilled from birth to believe the Koran is the literal words of God and that Mohammed merely transcribed them.
The book says to both kill,enslave or convert the infidel and to respectfully tolerate his religion.If a Muslim chooses either action,he gets a free pass because the word of God cannot be misinterpreted nor ammended—there can be no New Testament,no reformation—even the foretold “Expected One” or “Mahdi” cannot change or add a single word to the Koran.

Convenient,isn’t it?

Five times a day the devout Muslim prays thus:

“Praise belongs to God,Lord of the Worlds,
The Compassionate,the Merciful.
King of the day of Judgement.
‘Tis thee we worship and thee we ask for help.
Guide us in the straight(undevious)path,
The path of those whom Thou hast favored,
NOT THE PATH OF THOSE WHO INCUR THINE ANGER NOR THOSE WHO GO ASTRAY.”

So according to the last line,death to the infidel is not only just,but merciful as God has abandoned him.

Five times a day.


48 posted on 03/31/2008 3:51:45 PM PDT by Happy Rain
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To: Joiseydude

“Organic Choice Blood Meal made from dried pigs’ blood”

You’re not suggesting something suitable for hurling at muzzies, are you? Something that’ll pollute their sorry carcasses for all eternity?

Here’s my own suggestion for “Muzzie Kryptonite”:

Oscar Mayer (tm) Real Bacon Bits. Comes in a convenient pocket-sized resealable 3 oz. package.

Dry and compact until deployed. A waste of good food if it becomes necessary to do so.

(Expel these worthless moon-god worshipping murderers NOW!)


49 posted on 03/31/2008 4:01:18 PM PDT by elcid1970 (io)
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To: elcid1970

You’re not suggesting something suitable for hurling at muzzies, are you? Something that’ll pollute their sorry carcasses for all eternity?

_____________________________________________________

You mean this isn’t the gardening tips thread?

LOL


50 posted on 03/31/2008 4:05:46 PM PDT by Joiseydude
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