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Global Church Body Denounces Anti-Quran Film
The Christian Post ^ | March 31, 2008 | Daniel Blake

Posted on 03/31/2008 3:45:37 PM PDT by PROCON

The World Council of Churches has condemned a Dutch parliamentarian’s provocative new film which accuses the Quran of inciting violence.

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The director of the global ecumenical body’s Program on Interreligious Dialogue and Cooperation criticized Geert Wilders’ short film “Fitna” as "a clear case of Islamophobia." The word ”fitna” is an Arabic term that is sometimes translated as “strife.”

"Through graphic images, the filmmaker depicts violent extremism without any attempt to distinguish it from mainstream Islam,” Premawardhana said. “Extremism is a problem for most religions and needs to be countered through interreligious dialogue."

Wilders, who is leader of the anti-immigration Freedom Party, launched his short video on the Internet last Thursday to the outcry of Muslims around the world. In the film, images of the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States and bombings by Islamic extremists appear alongside quotations from the Quran.

European Union foreign ministers, in a statement, condemned the film and expressed their support for the Dutch Government, which has distanced itself from Wilders’ film.

"The film equates Islam with violence and this view is sharply rejected," the 27 ministers stated.

The EU also said, however, that the film did not surpass the boundaries of freedom of expression and that those offended by its content should not react violently.

"Feeling offended is no excuse for aggression or threats," the ministers said.

"Muslims, Christians and people of all convictions and beliefs must live together in peace and mutual respect."

The film has caused offence in a number of majority-Muslim countries including Iran, which called the film heinous, blasphemous and anti-Islamic.

A delegation of Dutch Christians and Muslims traveled to Egypt last week in an effort to limit the possible damage caused by the film. According to Ecumenical News International, they went with the message that the large majority of the population, the churches and Muslim communities in the Netherlands are opposed to the film, but that free speech means that the Dutch Government is powerless to block its release.

According to members of the delegation, the spiritual leader of the world’s Sunni Muslims, Sheikh Muhammad Sayyid Tantawy, expressed his discontent to them during a half-hour meeting.

"A single member of parliament in the Netherlands insults one-and-a-half billion Muslims. That is intolerable,” they quoted the Sheikh as saying.

Bas Plaisier, delegation member and general secretary of the Protestant Church in the Netherlands, said after the meeting with Tantawy, “Yet again it has become clear to us how the response to this issue is very emotional in the Arab world. This film is playing with fire.”

Earlier in the month, the WCC issued the commentary “Learning to Explore Love Together,” in which the ecumenical body urged Muslims and Christians to find common ground in love for God and for one’s neighbor.

The commentary followed the "Minute on Our Religious Imperative to Foster Sensitivity and Reconciliation in Shifting Society” released by the WCC’s Central Committee in February. The document encourages churches to “work towards reconciliation and healing” through dialogue with Muslims that would lead communities "not only from hostility to peaceful co-existence, but also to celebrations of our common life."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dhimmitude; fitna; islamofascism; moviereview; religiousleft; wcc
"The film equates Islam with violence and this view is sharply rejected," the 27 ministers stated.

The 27 ministers stated.

Ministers, bullcr@p!

1 posted on 03/31/2008 3:45:37 PM PDT by PROCON
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To: PROCON

read later


2 posted on 03/31/2008 3:46:12 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: PROCON

Violence is mainstream in the death cult.


3 posted on 03/31/2008 3:47:10 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Expel members of the death cult. You'll sleep better and your children, spouse and dog will be safe.)
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To: PROCON

WCC= World Council of Cowards.


4 posted on 03/31/2008 3:48:16 PM PDT by PalmettoMason ( I 'm a TWP! (Typical White Person, whatever THAT is!))
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To: PROCON
The film equates Islam with violence and this view is sharply rejected," the 27 ministers stated.

Bite me

5 posted on 03/31/2008 3:48:52 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: LiteKeeper
"Through graphic images, the filmmaker depicts violent extremism without any attempt to distinguish it from mainstream Islam,”

Would that be the brand of mainstream Islam practiced by our local Lodi, Ca mosque? Yeah that one. We only have two convicted of terrorism charges, so I guess it must be mainstream.

6 posted on 03/31/2008 3:49:06 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: PROCON

Sorry, not buyin’ it.
It is what it is.


7 posted on 03/31/2008 3:50:43 PM PDT by super7man
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To: PROCON

Who actually cares what the WCC says, anyway? Who pays for that bunch of losers to even exist as an organization?


8 posted on 03/31/2008 3:50:49 PM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben, reports to Parris Island on June 30.)
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To: PROCON
"The World Council of Churches"

Terrorist lovers and font of sleeper cells.


9 posted on 03/31/2008 3:51:09 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: All

I’d love to see a rep of the World Council of Churches go on Glen Beck or some other show and watch Fitna frame by frame and explain away the hate in the Koranic Satanic verses.

The film doesn’t not equate Islam to violence, the film shows verses of the Koran. Truth is real. It is what it is.


10 posted on 03/31/2008 3:51:59 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: PROCON
a clear case of Islamophobia

Seems to be. Islam ought to do something so people aren't fearful about them all the time. It has nothing to do with the WCC and they should just butt out.

11 posted on 03/31/2008 3:52:33 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: PROCON

Hello Christians: Thou shall have no other gods before me.

12 posted on 03/31/2008 3:53:35 PM PDT by bmwcyle (McCain has yet to give conservatives a reason to vote for him)
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To: PROCON

WCC = dhimmis


13 posted on 03/31/2008 3:55:52 PM PDT by PeterFinn (I am not voting for McCain. No way, no how.)
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To: PROCON
The ultimate in International PC bolstered by cowardice and the hope that by ignoring these truths the menace will go away. Akin to pre-WWII Europe in this thinking.
14 posted on 03/31/2008 3:56:10 PM PDT by TCats (The Clintons Are Not Just Wrong - They Are Certifiable AND Dangerous! See my Page)
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To: PeterFinn
Can't we all get along?
15 posted on 03/31/2008 3:56:56 PM PDT by PeterFinn (I am not voting for McCain. No way, no how.)
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To: bmwcyle
I just Hate that bumper sticker!
16 posted on 03/31/2008 3:57:10 PM PDT by PROCON (Hilary is for McCain!)
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To: PROCON
What a load of dung...

"Through graphic images, the filmmaker depicts violent extremism without any attempt to distinguish it from mainstream Islam,” Premawardhana said. “Extremism is a problem for most religions and needs to be countered through interreligious dialogue."

When "mainstream" Islam (Satan Worship) comes out 100% against ALL forms of terrorism, murder, conversion at the end of a sword (or gun barrel), then they can start talking. But the silence is deafening.

17 posted on 03/31/2008 3:57:45 PM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: PROCON

As a professing Christian Fundamentalist, I don’t remember agreeing with the “World Council of Churches” on anything. This is just another nail in the coffin.


18 posted on 03/31/2008 3:57:59 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: PeterFinn
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19 posted on 03/31/2008 3:58:14 PM PDT by PeterFinn (I am not voting for McCain. No way, no how.)
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To: PeterFinn
And not to be forgotten my new favorite...

Warning

20 posted on 03/31/2008 4:00:08 PM PDT by PeterFinn (I am not voting for McCain. No way, no how.)
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To: PROCON

"Say, Mo'Ham-Mud, just because a good portion of the Quran is given over to language inciting violence and Islam is correspondingly violent, should we accept the World Council of Churches' insistence that there could not possibly be any connection between the two?"

Mo'Ham-Mud: "Grunt, grunt, grunt..." (Defecates)

21 posted on 03/31/2008 4:01:26 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: Post Toasties; PeterFinn; All

22 posted on 03/31/2008 4:03:24 PM PDT by PROCON (Hilary is for McCain!)
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To: PROCON
That bumper sticker is a sign of profound ignorance. Those who place it on their vehicles are advertising their own ignorance.
23 posted on 03/31/2008 4:05:41 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: PROCON

How can you denounce something you’re not allowed to see?


24 posted on 03/31/2008 4:06:07 PM PDT by marron
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To: PalmettoMason

Doesn’t the Anti-Christ have his membership in the WCC.


25 posted on 03/31/2008 4:06:16 PM PDT by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: knighthawk

Looks like the communists have weighed in on Wilders’ film.


26 posted on 03/31/2008 4:07:23 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: PROCON

lets see, a film which claims that islam is violent is being protested by muslim with - threats of violence!!!

Hey folks, you can’t make this stuff up!


27 posted on 03/31/2008 4:08:23 PM PDT by bpjam (Drill For Oil or Lose Your Job!! Vote Nov 3, 2008)
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To: PROCON

I laugh at the fools who have it on their cars.


28 posted on 03/31/2008 4:09:00 PM PDT by bmwcyle (McCain has yet to give conservatives a reason to vote for him)
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To: PROCON
“Extremism is a problem for most religions and needs to be countered through interreligious dialogue."

These people are so full of crap. Dialog only works if both sides agree that it is a useful tool to bridge differences and then actually work to bridge differences. I'm not seeing Sheikh al Mohammed Blah Blah very interested in bridging differences. I see him interested in shutting people up thru an organized campaign of intimidation and violence.

From what I can see, Islam works a lot like an organized crime racket. In NJ and NY, it goes: "You obey and we'll try to keep our passionate union members under control. You have to understand how seriously they feel about this." In the Netherlands it goes "You obey and we'll try to keep our passionate mosque goers under control. You have to understand how seriously they feel about this."

29 posted on 03/31/2008 4:09:03 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: PROCON
To liberal Christians, its see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil about Islamist violence - all sanctioned by the Koran. I challenge them to show what in Fitna is untrue.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

30 posted on 03/31/2008 4:09:51 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: bmwcyle

I wish someone would come up with a different version of that one that shows the islamic symbol like a Pac Man, gobbling up the other symbols!


31 posted on 03/31/2008 4:11:38 PM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: bmwcyle
I laugh at the fools who have it on their cars.

You'd die of laughter if you were where I live! :(

32 posted on 03/31/2008 4:11:57 PM PDT by PROCON (Hilary is for McCain!)
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To: PROCON
Good afternoon.

Wasn't the WCC helped into existence by Joe Stalin? I'm sure I read that somewhere.

Michael Frazier

33 posted on 03/31/2008 4:12:49 PM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: PROCON

why is it the surrender monkey priesthood is the most blind to the world?

it it their left wing delusionism? Is it their lack of families? (wives, children, etc...)

or did some saudi pay them to “dance monkey dance”


34 posted on 03/31/2008 4:13:49 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: brazzaville
Wasn't the WCC helped into existence by Joe Stalin? I'm sure I read that somewhere.

I don't know either, but my guess is yes!

35 posted on 03/31/2008 4:15:12 PM PDT by PROCON (Hilary is for McCain!)
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notice they do NOT MENTION IT IS MAINSTREAM ISLAM’s SPOKES PEOPLE who are depicted in the movie.

notice they do NOT MENTION IT IS ISLAM IN ITS OWN WORDS without commentary.

They show beheadings of the innocent.
They show the women executed on a soccer field.
The cries of an inocent killed in the name of islam.

The proclamations that the white house will be islamic.

these idiots did not even see the 15 MINUTE movie.

FOOLS.

Too stupid to realize useful idiots like them are first to die.


36 posted on 03/31/2008 4:19:29 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Rodm
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37 posted on 03/31/2008 4:20:18 PM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: longtermmemmory

“Too stupid to realize useful idiots like them are first to die.”

No, first to convert.


38 posted on 03/31/2008 4:44:43 PM PDT by 353FMG (Vote for the Candidate who will do the least damage to our country.)
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To: PROCON

Then they have their lttle pink triangles on the other side of their bumper.


39 posted on 03/31/2008 4:53:20 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: PROCON

The WCC is totally apostate. The “ministers” are essentially athiests.


40 posted on 03/31/2008 4:55:49 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: PalmettoMason

bingo.... what a pithy description of the outfit!


41 posted on 03/31/2008 4:57:16 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: PROCON
The director of the global ecumenical body’s Program on Interreligious Dialogue and Cooperation criticized Geert Wilders’ short film “Fitna” as "a clear case of Islamophobia." The word ”fitna” is an Arabic term that is sometimes translated as “strife.”

This guy is lucky he's already submitted and will not be beheaded, he'll get to be a eunuch

42 posted on 03/31/2008 6:10:48 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama: America is the greatest country on the earth, Help me bring change.)
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To: marron

The video is on the web at http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/31/liveleak-restores-fitna/


43 posted on 03/31/2008 6:34:27 PM PDT by moonpie57 (Fred Howell McMurray, Jr. The man on my POW bracelet.)
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To: PROCON
The World Council of Churches would be the first to condemn and denigrate Islam were it not for the availability of boys.

"Socially segregated from women, Arab men succumb to homosexual behavior. But, interestingly enough, there is no word for "homosexual" in their culture in the modern Western sense. That is because having sex with boys, or with effeminate men, is seen as a social norm. Males serve as available substitutes for unavailable women. The male who does the penetrating, meanwhile, is not emasculated any more than if he had sex with a wife. The male who is penetrated is emasculated. The boy, however, is not, since it is rationalized that he is not yet a man."

Islam is the last stand and refuge for those slain on the heights by Judgment and Justice for the cause of decency and truth.

(He's God of the valleys too, you scum)

44 posted on 03/31/2008 7:16:16 PM PDT by freedom9 ( Integrity is doing what is honest and right when no one is watching.)
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To: facedown

Even before the film was released they said the same. But who cares about some people who are blind to what is happening in the world.


45 posted on 04/01/2008 1:09:46 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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