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3rd-Graders Accused Of Plot To Hurt Teacher (Unbelievable!)
News4Jax ^ | March 31, 2008 | News4Jax

Posted on 04/01/2008 2:00:35 PM PDT by Crazieman

WAYCROSS, Ga. -- As many as nine third-grade students got together and plotted to harm their teacher, even going so far as to bring handcuffs and a knife to school, Waycross police said.

School officials at Center Elementary School, which is located on Dorothy Street in Waycross, said they never imagined that some of the 8- and 9-year-olds boys and girls at the school would think of bringing physical harm to a teacher.

"A plan had been developed amongst several of our third-grade students to allegedly do harm to their teacher," said Theresa Martin, of Ware County Schools.

Martin said the plot was uncovered when one student saw a knife in the backpack of another student.

"It's shocking that they would think of this at their young age. I think that is probably the most shocking part for all of us," Martin said.

In addition to the knife being found, the school officials said other students had duct tape, handcuffs, ribbon and a heavy crystal paperweight.

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Can words describe the depravity of society that could generate this?
1 posted on 04/01/2008 2:00:36 PM PDT by Crazieman
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To: Crazieman

Can words describe the depravity of society that could generate this?


Garbage in, Garbage out. I’ll bet they have never been exposed to the ten commandments..............


2 posted on 04/01/2008 2:02:57 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Crazieman
While not condoning this, there are teachers who are so mean they shouldn't be allowed around children.
3 posted on 04/01/2008 2:04:58 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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To: Crazieman

Put the little bastards in reform school for a few months. They’ll end up in the prison system soon enough anyhow.


5 posted on 04/01/2008 2:05:03 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Crazieman

My 3rd grader does not have the will nor angst to plot this kind of stuff.


6 posted on 04/01/2008 2:05:48 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Crazieman

I would just like to go on record stating that the entertainment industry has nothing to do with putting thoughts like these into the heads of children. The children just came up with all this on their own.


7 posted on 04/01/2008 2:06:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Waycross is a small town on the brass buckle of the bible belt. You can’t swing a cat without hitting a church. Not saying that they HAVE heard the 10 commandments, just that it’s very hard not to in that town.


8 posted on 04/01/2008 2:06:05 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: Crazieman

Special ed students aiming to harm the special ed teacher?

Man, really am curious for more of the story.


9 posted on 04/01/2008 2:06:42 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: Crazieman

http://www.howmanyfiveyearoldscouldyoutakeinafight.com/

27 :)


10 posted on 04/01/2008 2:08:14 PM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: PeterPrinciple

“I’ll bet they have never been exposed to the ten commandments..............”

But they HAVE been exposed to an awful lot of violence. The average child will have seen 8,000 murders on TV by the time he finishes elementary school.

http://www.csun.edu/science/health/docs/tv&health.html


11 posted on 04/01/2008 2:08:21 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: mtbopfuyn; bert

Wow folks. I guess you’ve never seen a child revolt at the onset of discipline before. It sure didn’t take you long to figure out what the real problem was.

Hey kids, come on back. We were wrong. /s


12 posted on 04/01/2008 2:09:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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To: Deo volente

I bet you suppose we should be like Germany then? Porn wall to wall in the department stores, but if a movie has a little bit of violence you need to ask the cashier for it? Let’s find a happy medium!


13 posted on 04/01/2008 2:14:28 PM PDT by AntiKev ("The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena." - Carl Sagan)
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To: Crazieman

They get this from the older kids. There was a time when people were more discreet about their conversations, especially around children. Now the kids hear everything and from everybody.

When there is no authority at home kids find authority in themselves.

It’s the rule of the street. These children were probably seeking a reputation as well. Innocence is not a virtue in these circles.


14 posted on 04/01/2008 2:23:58 PM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Pretty soon, all ten of those commandments will be felonies.


15 posted on 04/01/2008 2:44:40 PM PDT by Soothesayer (I'm breaking out of this hand basket!)
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To: mtbopfuyn

If the teacher actually committed abuse, the tables might be turned.


16 posted on 04/01/2008 2:46:07 PM PDT by Soothesayer (I'm breaking out of this hand basket!)
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To: Crazieman

Children of the Corn!


17 posted on 04/01/2008 2:46:24 PM PDT by LetsRok
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To: Deo volente
But they HAVE been exposed to an awful lot of violence. The average child will have seen 8,000 murders on TV by the time he finishes elementary school.

And don't forget the computer and video games that are basically rape and murder "how-to" manuals.

18 posted on 04/01/2008 2:48:21 PM PDT by lightman (Waiting for Godot and searching for Avignon.)
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To: Crazieman

My daughter couldn’t even begin to fathom such a thing. This is a good example of kids without Dad’s, working Mom’s, no supervision, no exposure to the Bible, only concerned about more “bling”. All will indeed spend many years in prison.


19 posted on 04/01/2008 2:48:46 PM PDT by albie
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To: Crazieman
I could see it. I kicked a teacher in the shins when I was in the 4th grade(1957). Ok maybe not the same thing.
Yea, in case you wondered my mom took a really strong switch to my back side and I had to apologize to the teacher in front of the class.
20 posted on 04/01/2008 2:52:27 PM PDT by svcw (I reject your reality and substitute my own.)
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To: Crazieman

Thank God they are getting that ‘socialization’ that home schoolers are constantly deprived of.


21 posted on 04/01/2008 2:53:08 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“I would just like to go on record stating that the entertainment industry has nothing to do with putting thoughts like these into the heads of children. The children just came up with all this on their own.”

Glad to see someone put up a defense for the hollywood deviants. SARC


22 posted on 04/01/2008 2:53:27 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: svcw

How cruel. Did you put in a call to the ACLU?


23 posted on 04/01/2008 2:54:13 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Crazieman

Hmmm...they should make a video game out of this... Although there’s probably one on the market right now because maybe that’s how these kids got the idea.


24 posted on 04/01/2008 2:58:12 PM PDT by oust the louse (Terrorists are salivating over a Clinton or Obama White House.)
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To: svcw
I had to apologize to the teacher in front of the class.

Public humiliation/embarrassment is a very effective form of discipline when dealing with children. Unfortunately, it is rarely used by parents today.

25 posted on 04/01/2008 2:59:03 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Crazieman

This makes 1960s America look like a church garden party.


26 posted on 04/01/2008 3:01:46 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Crazieman

Isn’t this a Georgia Title 1 school?

Tough place to teach...


27 posted on 04/01/2008 3:01:58 PM PDT by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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To: Crazieman

I do believe where GOD is removed, evil will fill the void.


28 posted on 04/01/2008 3:02:28 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey
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To: lightman

Probably a bit of both and lack of parental supervision and care.

I’m 24. I grew up on violent everything, including video games. I even own the Soldier of Fortune series, undoubtedly the most gory shoot-em-up ever made. Never contemplated anything of the sort.

And if you play - you see millions of others playing online as well. There are always screwballs, but this recent phenomenon is coupled with parents not raising children properly.


29 posted on 04/01/2008 3:04:40 PM PDT by Crazieman (Vaya van Juan McCain en 2008)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Thank God they are getting that ‘socialization’ that home schoolers are constantly deprived of.
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Well...If children ( who have committed no crime) are imprisoned in buildings that look like minimum security prisons, marched around like prisoners, have all their First Amendment Rights crushed like prisoners, have their freedom of conscience abused with state imposed indoctrination,,is it surprising that they plot revenge against their prison guard-like teachers???

I don't think so.

That children so young should attempt this doesn't surprise me. They are not old enough to know that their revolt is hopeless. Their spirit hasn't been broken yet.

By the way, the article stated that the revolt started over one child being punished with time out. Hm?,,,Time out?,,,Gee! That sounds a lot like government imposed solitary confinement to me.

30 posted on 04/01/2008 3:07:17 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: 12th_Monkey

We see the evidence all around us.


31 posted on 04/01/2008 3:07:36 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: Crazieman

No offense, guys, but I’m not sold on the validity of the charge as of yet.

It’s very easy to get kids to confess to things that never happened.

Before I accept that this happened I want to know:

1) Who questioned the childern?
2) Where were they questioned?
3) Were the parents present?
4) How many denied the story only to acquiesce once the “plot” was presented?
5) How did the interrogators react to children who may have originally denied the allegations?

This story seems far-fetched and I remain skeptical.


32 posted on 04/01/2008 3:10:55 PM PDT by cizinec ("I've never heard a corpse ask how it got so cold.")
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To: M203M4

http://www.howmanyfiveyearoldscouldyoutakeinafight.com/

27 :)
30 :-P

I'm thin, but my willingness to pick up a child and use it as a weapon against the other children probably helped my score quite a bit.
33 posted on 04/01/2008 3:13:50 PM PDT by According2RecentPollsAirIsGood
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To: Crazieman

Blaming this on videogames is like blaming Columbine on guns.

Parental responsibility.


34 posted on 04/01/2008 3:13:55 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: cizinec

Good points!


35 posted on 04/01/2008 3:14:08 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: M203M4
27 :)

LOL! Same here. I stopped short of swinging one of the little monsters around like a cudgel. :-)

36 posted on 04/01/2008 3:14:26 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
I do not even know if they were around at that time.
I think if I even mentioned such a thing, I would have switched again.
It was a different time and parents made their kids behave and accept the consequences of their actions. I am surprised you didn't ask why I kicked her.
37 posted on 04/01/2008 3:18:27 PM PDT by svcw (I reject your reality and substitute my own.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

That defense is a thousand miles long and 1/100,000,000,000,000,000ths of an inch thick.


38 posted on 04/01/2008 3:18:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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To: Crazieman

Omigod! Spare me from the wrath of third graders!


39 posted on 04/01/2008 3:19:30 PM PDT by zebra 2
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To: cizinec

Well, according to the link on a later thread, this teacher has “students with learning disabilities including attention deficit disorder, delayed development and hyperactivity.” I’m betting there will turn out to be one ring-leader who came up with the whole scenario and a lot of little sheep who wanted to be part of the group.


40 posted on 04/01/2008 3:22:05 PM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: svcw

I was being slighty sarcastic :). I think you and I are about the same age.

Ok, why did you kick your teacher?

I’m curious if it was more egregious than the paddling I received in 2nd grade by laughing at “turkey tetrazini” as the Principal announced the week’s menu over the intercom.


41 posted on 04/01/2008 3:23:08 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: kingu
From the Waycross Journal (http://www.wjhnews.com/):

It was discovered that the students of Belle Carter - a third grader teacher whose class includes children with disabilities including ADD (attention deficit disorder), DDD (delayed development disorder) and hyperactivity - planned to harm her. Confiscated were a serrated blade steak knife (broken), handcuffs and duct tape, said police and school officials. Tanner said everyone took the situation seriously. He said it was believed the children's decision to harm the teacher was made some time last week. He said the motive may have been to exact revenge on Carter after she disciplined a girl in her classroom for "standing on a chair."

42 posted on 04/01/2008 3:24:55 PM PDT by ravinson
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To: Crazieman

These animals deserve capitol punishment.

Force them to recite the names of the capitols of all 50 States all day long. That’ll teach ‘em.

;-)


43 posted on 04/01/2008 3:25:30 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Riley

Fourteen, and I only got that many because I would take no prisoners.


44 posted on 04/01/2008 3:25:40 PM PDT by toomuchcoffee
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To: cizinec

Go spend some time in a inner city school, you may get a big suprise.


45 posted on 04/01/2008 3:27:45 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey
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To: toomuchcoffee

Did you read the thread on their forum that started all of that? There’s a link to it on the first page.

Arguing about how many angels could dance on the head of a pin, and distributing cat pictures are a significant portion of what the Internet is all about. :-)


46 posted on 04/01/2008 3:31:03 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Crazieman
Can words describe the depravity of society that could generate this?

LBJ's "Great Society"?

47 posted on 04/01/2008 3:31:42 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: LetsRok
It goes back further than the 1980s. There are records from the Roman Empire describing attacks on teachers.

Back then, they used wax tablets with styluses to etch the lessons. The styluses could do double duty as stabbing weapons.

48 posted on 04/01/2008 3:33:36 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Well, I was in a school wide tether ball competition. The finally game came down to me and this boy.
I kicked his behind royally. Then the teacher came over to me a whispered that they were going to give him first place because no boy wants to be lose to a girl.
I started yelling, can't remember everything but I am sure it was pretty obnoxious.
Anyway, she grabbed my ear and started dragging me to the principals office, I told her to let go and she wouldn’t so I kicked her..she let go.
They called my mom who was furious with me and I paid the price for my attitude and kicking.
My mom did inform the teacher to never touch me again or she would deal with her....I am grateful to my mom for not letting me slid just because the teacher was a jerk.
(Age I was born in 1947, second year of the baby boomer's.)
49 posted on 04/01/2008 3:35:42 PM PDT by svcw (I reject your reality and substitute my own.)
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To: Crazieman
While I certainly have no problem believing that kids nowadays are capable of as much violence and depravity as adults, ever since 4th Grade I've been skeptical of teachers' sides of situations like this. Back then, I was in the Gifted and Talented homeroom and to reward us for our hard work, our teacher let us take a period off to play outside. Seeing this, the fat cow of a teacher managing the class of not-so-GT thugs next door to ours decided to also let her class out. Of course, they ate up all the courtyard space pushing us to the side and ruining our fun time. Being more than a little annoyed, I just happened to mutter under my breath about said cow, "I'm gonna kill her!" just as your mom would say if you ran a non-colorplast red sweater in with the whites. Expression of annoyance, that's all.

Well, someone (never found out who) went and told this woman that I'd said this, and the next day I arrive at school only to be directed over to her classroom. Subsequently, this **censored** proceeds to yell at me until my little fourth grade self is in tears about how I was threatening her life and how she's going to get me sent to juvy for this. Luckily, the Assistant Principle liked me and had some common sense, so she took care of this and nothing happened to me. Anyways, I'm by default skeptical about stories like this until I hear the entire unfiltered account.
50 posted on 04/01/2008 3:37:00 PM PDT by According2RecentPollsAirIsGood
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