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Daddy Issues, War Lust in Oliver Stone's 'W'
ABC News ^ | April 1, 2008 | Marcus Baram

Posted on 04/01/2008 3:30:52 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin

Daddy Issues, War Lust in Oliver Stone's 'W' Controversial Filmmaker's Early Script Depicts President Bush's Hard-Partying Youth and Feuds With His Father

By MARCUS BARAM

April 1, 2008 —

It's a classic American story: In the prime of his life, a man who parties too much and lives in the shadow of his esteemed father turns his life around. He gives up alcohol, embraces religion and finds a new purpose.

But will his desire to impress his dad and purge his personal demons put the world in danger?

Coming soon to a movie theater near you: controversial director Oliver Stone's "W," the life story of President George W. Bush, a warts-and-all portrayal.

Though the movie is scheduled for release in 2009, there is a chance that it might be pushed up to come out before the November election, say insiders.

The movie, which starts filming this month with "No Country for Old Men" actor Josh Brolin playing Bush, paints a humanistic portrait of the president along with plenty of embarrassing anecdotes from his life story, judging by a copy of an early screenplay obtained by ABCNEWS.com.

The film's script captures purported notorious moments in Bush's life:

Rumors that his father pulled strings to get him into Harvard Business School.

His arrest during college for tearing down the goalposts at a football game.

Almost getting into a fistfight with his father when he comes home drunk one night in the 1970s.

His vow to quit drinking when he wakes up with a wicked hangover soon after his 40th birthday.

It also covers plenty of his administration's lowlights -- from Bush's reported obsession with invading Iraq, which Stone will portray as a desire to avenge Saddam Hussein's assassination attempt on Bush's father and his frustration with the failed search for WMDs to his penchant for malapropisms and cheery optimism about the chances for civil war in Iraq.

Hard Drinking, Family Feud

The first scene, in which Bush and his advisers brainstorm different terms to describe their global enemies, from "Axis of Hatred" to "Axis of Unbearably Odious," is followed by an early glimpse of the hard-drinking young man when he was a college student at Yale.

Drinking vodka mixed with orange juice out of a trash can at the DKE frat house, Bush impresses the fraternity leader with his ability to memorize the names of his fellow pledges.

Asked whether he'll follow in the steps of his politician father and grandfather, Dubya quips, "Hell no, that's the last thing in the world I'd want to do."

Years later, after Dubya drains a pint of Wild Turkey and runs over a pile of trash cans while driving home, his angry father tells him to call Alcoholics Anonymous, prompting Dubya to sarcastically deride his dad as "Mr. Perfect. Mr. War Hero. Mr F-- God Almighty."

Stone, who mined psychological motives in his previous presidential movies, from the conspiratorial "JFK" to the dark character study of "Nixon," makes much of Bush's competitive relationship with his father and how it fueled his desire to invade Iraq.

When Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld purportedly confronts Bush in 2002 about his obsession with Saddam: "What's the big deal about Saddam? Bin Laden's the trained ape that wrought this hell on us," Dubya's response sounds like a line out of "The Godfather": "You don't go after the Bushes and get to talk about it. Ya got me?"

After his born-again experience, Bush says that he doesn't ask his dad for advice because "there's a higher Father I appeal to."

When his father cries after losing to Bill Clinton in 1992, Bush sticks it to his dad by telling him that he would have won if he'd ousted Saddam at the end of the first Gulf War.

When Bush's parents tell him to hold off running for governor of Texas until after younger brother Jeb Bush has a chance to wins Florida's top spot, Barbara tells him that he can't win because "you're loud and you have a short fuse."

Stone also portrays the president as stubborn and aggressive when it came to prosecuting the war in Iraq.

Before the invasion, he tells a shocked British Prime Minister Tony Blair about alternative plans such as baiting Saddam by painting a U.S. spy plane in U.N. colors and assassinating the Iraqi leader.

When he hears about French Prime Minister Jacques Chirac's desire to give weapons inspectors 30 more days to work in Iraq, Bush explodes: "Thirty days! I'd like to stuff a plate of freedom fries down that slick piece of s--'s throat!"

The Lighter Side of Bush

Stone includes many lighter moments, such as Bush's fondness for nicknames and teasing, like calling Colin Powell "Balloon Foot" and telling Paul Wolfowitz to trim his ear hairs.

In one scene, Bush practices his parachute landing in the White House pool but forgets to properly release the harness and sinks to the bottom. In another scene, Rumsfeld doodles a drawing of Condoleeza Rice standing on a piano with a globe spinning on her finger.

During the planning of the war, Bush and his top advisers are shown locking the war-wary Powell out of a room, erupting into laughter when they finally let him in.

Other times, Bush's light touch seems blithely out of touch with reality. While he munches on bologna and cheese sandwiches on white bread, he brags to Cheney about how his running time has improved since the Afghanistan invasion.

And he compares the troops' ordeal in the deserts of Iraq to his ability to run in 100-degree heat. At one point, Bush describes giving up sweets as "my personal sacrifice to show support for our troops."

He interrupts a meeting with Prince Bandar, in which he informs the Saudi ambassador about plans to invade Iraq, so that he can catch the rest of the 2002 Miami Dolphins-Baltimore Ravens playoff game. Bush is later shown choking on a pretzel and passing out during the second quarter.

But the film also strives to paint a humanistic portrait of the commander in chief, with Bush once telling the Rev. Billy Graham that "there's this darkness that follows me."

"People say I was born with a silver spoon, but they don't know the burden that carries."

Soon after a disastrous news conference in April 2004, Bush retreats to the White House den to watch a Texas Rangers game in the final scene of the script.

Popping open a nonalcoholic beer, he lapses into his favorite dream: playing center field for the Rangers. Hearing the crack of the bat, he looks up for the ball but he can't find it in the sky.

Is it Accurate?

Stone, who was accused of reanimating long-discredited conspiracy theories in "JFK" and bending the facts in his other films, might come under fire for his portrayal of Bush as an impetuous leader.

Already, one former Bush administration official objects to the accuracy of the film.

One explosive scene in the movie features press secretary Ari Fleischer complaining to Bush about longtime reporter Helen Thomas who questioned the run-up to the war in Iraq.

Bush explodes in a profanity-laced outburst , "Did you tell her I don't like motherf-- who gas their own people! Did you tell her I don't like a-- holes who try to kill my father! Did you tell her I'm going to kick his & a-- all over the Middle East?"

"It's fantasy," said Fleischer. "He used to talk like that before he was president? But he never talked like that around me. He mentioned his father once, in a public setting, at a fundraiser in Houston in 2002. "

Fleischer doesn't blame Stone, explaining that the screenwriter did his research and that there are erroneous accounts of the administration in books and magazines. "Hollywood is Hollywood."

The White House declined comment on the movie and its portrayal of the president.

How Will It Do?

One film columnist, who has read the script, thinks that it's a well-written story that could do well.

"The lifeblood of this film is not content, there's nothing revelatory or stunning in it, but acting opportunities especially for Josh Brolin as Bush," said Jeffrey Wells, who runs the movie blog Hollywood-elsewhere.com.

"It's about a guy who's got a life-long identity crisis but he finds himself when he goes to war. He uses the Iraq War to assert himself and make him feel like he's his own man."

If the movie, which also stars "40-Year-Old Virgin" star Elizabeth Banks as Laura Bush, comes out before the election, it could have an effect because John McCain's support for the Iraq War remains a central part of his message.

"It's happened before where movies such as 'All the President's Men' have had an impact on an election," said Robert Brent Toplin, a professor of history at the University of North Carolina at Wilmington and the author of "Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11: How One Film Divided a Nation."

"That movie hurt Gerald Ford by revealing the investigation and focusing on the corruption of the Nixon administration. He lost by a few points in 1976 and the movie came out early that spring."

Moore's" Fahrenheit 9/11" came out before the 2004 election but it didn't prove to have much of an effect. "The right-wingers did a good job of discrediting the message and the messenger," said Toplin.

Many political movies, such as "Primary Colors" and "Wag the Dog," didn't have much of an effect and didn't do that well at the box office. "But if Stone can make this entertaining, the timing could be superb."

Copyright © 2008 ABC News Internet Ventures


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; enemypropaganda; fahrenheit911; hollywood; lies; movie; moviereview; oliverstone; stone; w
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1 posted on 04/01/2008 3:30:53 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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To: Arec Barrwin

How long can a free society last that allows the likes of Oliver Stone to herald it’s history?

I’m no fan of Bush by a long shot, but when Oliver Stone becomes involved in a project, you can expect credibility and even sanity to be in short supply by the time the project is presented to the public.

This is another movie I’ll be taking a pass on. Between Michael Moore and this clown, I’ve seen about 1/4 of one movie of theirs. That’s all I could stomach.


2 posted on 04/01/2008 3:35:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Moore’s” Fahrenheit 9/11” came out before the 2004 election but it didn’t prove to have much of an effect. “The right-wingers did a good job of discrediting the message and the messenger,” said Toplin.

Yep, it was all a right-wing conspiracy that Moore’s film was filled with ridiculous lies and distortions that were easily debunked. Moore was soo discredited as a messenger, he won the Cannes, Oscar, and made hundreds of millions from his adoring liberal and communist fans.


3 posted on 04/01/2008 3:39:29 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Maybe someone should do a movie about how McCain and Obama spent their respective youths. McCain was beaten by Marxists, while Obama embraced Marxism.

Doubt Hollywood will make that one.


4 posted on 04/01/2008 3:39:30 PM PDT by Jaguarmike
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To: DoughtyOne

Next film is about Hillary’s nobel prize for physics? And the firefight that ensued when she landed to collect the prize?


5 posted on 04/01/2008 3:40:22 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: DoughtyOne

This isn’t history it’s fiction.


6 posted on 04/01/2008 3:40:57 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Arec Barrwin
Bush's reported obsession with invading Iraq, which Stone will portray as a desire to avenge Saddam Hussein's assassination attempt on Bush's father and his frustration with the failed search for WMDs

Stopped reading here.

Waste of my time.

7 posted on 04/01/2008 3:41:41 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Arec Barrwin
It's a classic American story:

More like

It's a classic Liberal (slanted) story based on rumors, opinions, lies and a lot of BS to make a great President look bad
8 posted on 04/01/2008 3:45:59 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Note to McCain: The voters are not united FOR you, they are uniting AGAINST Clinton/Obama)
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To: DoughtyOne
you can expect credibility and even sanity to be in short supply and the DUers/moveoners will eat it up and the rest of the country will not care.
9 posted on 04/01/2008 3:49:15 PM PDT by SF Republican (Conservatives wanted all or nothing, and they got it.)
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To: DoughtyOne
How long can a free society last that DOESN'T ‘allow’ Oliver Stone his freedom to make his movies?

The moment the government stops him from making his silly movies is the moment our Republic ceases to be free.

Don't throw a hissy. The movie will probably flop, costing Oliver Stoned a lot of money, and costing its viewers a few hours of their life.

Lets not kill the 1st Amendment over this little bit of inanity.

10 posted on 04/01/2008 3:49:46 PM PDT by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD)
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To: Da Coyote

LOL


11 posted on 04/01/2008 3:49:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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To: Borges

Agreed...


12 posted on 04/01/2008 3:50:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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To: SF Republican

true


13 posted on 04/01/2008 3:50:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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To: Old Sarge

Jim Garrison and Richard Nixon were dead so they had no defense to Stone’s fantasy pictures.

I suspect this film is going to be hailed by left wing reporters as great when it’s a work of fiction that fulfills Stone’s and other liberals ideas of who Bush is.

I hope it bombs like other Stone films.


14 posted on 04/01/2008 3:53:07 PM PDT by WildWeasel
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To: allmendream

I don’t happen to believe that our freedom hinges on the ability of a man like Oliver Stone to lie his ass off presenting a completely falsified history to our youth. Perhaps you do.

If he wants to acknowledge up front that nothing contained in his movie is true, I’ve got no problem with him saying whatevery he likes.

His movie about the Kennedy assasination was fabricated in a number of ways. Those going to see it were the kids between sixteen and twenty-five who had no idea what he put on the screen wasn’t factual.


15 posted on 04/01/2008 3:54:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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To: Borges
This isn’t history it’s fiction.

Just like "JFK"
16 posted on 04/01/2008 3:57:14 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Arec Barrwin
from just reading the article on the movie, I think this film may actually help bush...

People will come away, saying "wow, this guy has similar family problems that I do. I can kind of relate to that"

17 posted on 04/01/2008 3:59:17 PM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: WildWeasel
Jim Garrison and Richard Nixon were dead so they had no defense to Stone’s fantasy pictures.
Garrison was still alive - he had a small role in JFK as Earl Warren
18 posted on 04/01/2008 4:02:22 PM PDT by StevieJ
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To: Arec Barrwin

The vileness of the leftists/Marxists/Communists/Stalinists/Islamofascists loving Stone and his cohorts in the media will never stop against President Bush who had the audacity to fight back against Algore’s attempted theft of the 2000 election and to fight back after we were attacked on 911, and to fight back and win in the 2004 election.....and to somehow do all this without losing his cool and lashing out at those who will never cease to deride, degrade, and destroy him (and all who support the same things he has stood for).

My problem is not with the loathesome Stone - but with the thousands if not millions of non-thinking minds of mush out there who will lap this garbage up .....especially in the EuroIslamic world.

As usual - will just continue to pray for President Bush daily and to thank him for the good things he has done and for being a bulwark against the destroyers in the ways he has been. And nothing Stoneyboy can say will obliterate the unchallenged FACT that President Bush restored honor and dignity to the White House, to our Presidency after its total trashing under the horrendous Clintonista regime!


19 posted on 04/01/2008 4:11:16 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: DoughtyOne
So government censorship is OK?

Should appointed commissars deem what is ‘true’ and what is ‘fiction’ and label it appropriately.

Our Republic will survive far worse than Oliver Stoned selling propaganda movies to credulous teen agers. It would not survive the attempt to stop him. Freedom of speech is even for those you disagree with and you know are lying.

20 posted on 04/01/2008 4:11:21 PM PDT by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD)
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To: Arec Barrwin
Image hosted by Photobucket.com could abc possible stick it's tongue any further down stones throat let alone up his...
21 posted on 04/01/2008 4:14:13 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: Arec Barrwin

I’m sure somewhere in this flick Stone will have a scene showing the passage of the Hussein removal bill by the Clinton administration. Complete with the agreement by all the world’s intelligence agencies about Hussein’s wmds. (smirk)


22 posted on 04/01/2008 4:19:19 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: Arec Barrwin

Just boycott it and refuse to let your kids see it when it starts to make the public school rounds. Get a copy of the Hatch letter and send it into the Schools the second the movie is released.


23 posted on 04/01/2008 4:30:27 PM PDT by deuteronlmy232 (All politicians are whores, soros is the high bidder, citizens of the US are being sacrificed..)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Another Hollyweird movie which will fail big time. Does Hollyweird have any money-making films other than cartoons and comic book heros?


24 posted on 04/01/2008 4:44:18 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

April Fools Day sucks.


25 posted on 04/01/2008 4:52:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: Arec Barrwin

bump


26 posted on 04/01/2008 5:09:18 PM PDT by lowbridge ("I can't wait to see what he stands for." - Susan Sarandon on her support of Barack Obama)
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To: DoughtyOne

“World Trade Center” was quite good.


27 posted on 04/01/2008 5:15:13 PM PDT by karnage
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To: WildWeasel

Jim Garrison portrayed Supreme Court Chief Justice Earl Warren in “JFK.”


28 posted on 04/01/2008 5:16:39 PM PDT by karnage
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To: DoughtyOne

Anyone who goes to a Hollywood movie expecting it to be factually and historically accurate needs to take a course in media literacy.


29 posted on 04/01/2008 5:17:42 PM PDT by karnage
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To: Arec Barrwin

His arrest during college for tearing down the goalposts at a football game.

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Why does this make me like him more, hehe.

Seriously, I have said before on here... A friend from Oz once said “Bush is a cowboy” and I had to explain that here in America we LIKE cowboys and that isn’t an insult.


30 posted on 04/01/2008 5:18:43 PM PDT by Southerngl
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To: Arec Barrwin

Another B.O. bomb from Oliver Stoned. The only people dumber than the people who pay to see this crap are the ones who finance it.


31 posted on 04/01/2008 5:22:10 PM PDT by clintonh8r (An Obamanation would be an abomination...."A typical white person.")
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To: Arec Barrwin

I wonder what the chances are this will be magically released just before election ‘08.


32 posted on 04/01/2008 5:33:35 PM PDT by R_Kangel (`.`)
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To: Arec Barrwin

I’d like to Martin Scorsese make a “conspiracy theory” movie about the life of Oliver Stone. Let’s face it, anytime some goofy, lib director makes a movie about a conservative it’s a propaganda, hit-piece. This movie should be almost as successful as his dreadful film, Alexander. I’ll be skipping this one.


33 posted on 04/01/2008 5:49:27 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Wasn’t planning to see Stone’s movie (I’ve only seen one and it was crapola!), but now I’m DEFINITELY not going to see another one of his crapola films.


34 posted on 04/01/2008 5:53:38 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Arec Barrwin
One, Bush is on his way out.

Two, Stone has been a lefty weirdo for so long he can only speak to those people.

I bet this film tanks.

35 posted on 04/01/2008 5:59:27 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Arec Barrwin
One, Bush is on his way out.

Two, Stone has been a lefty weirdo for so long he can only speak to those people.

I bet this film tanks.

36 posted on 04/01/2008 6:00:20 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: karnage

I haven’t watched it. You are probably right and I don’t seek to desparage anyone involved. I will say that I have an aversion to Hollywood producing something on the subject. Hollywood is so diseased. I can’t bring myself to have anything to do with something they produced on this subject. It would lend them an air of legitimacy, something I won’t do these days. I know 09/11 was tough on a lot of people. I have read the news reports. I respect and empathize, but I don’t feel the need to see a Hollywood rehash. Even at best, I would consider it an attempt to make a buck off the pain of others.


37 posted on 04/01/2008 6:57:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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To: karnage

Thanks for the reprimand. I sure needed it for thinking that Hollywood should be held to a higher standard.


38 posted on 04/01/2008 6:58:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“Between Michael Moore and this clown, I’ve seen about 1/4 of one movie of theirs. That’s all I could stomach.”

That’s better than I’ve done. I don’t think I have ever seen anything that either of them produced. Warnings about the film being a bomb always warned me off first.


39 posted on 04/01/2008 7:02:14 PM PDT by Berosus (Support our troops, bring them home -- from the Balkans.)
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To: Berosus

When Moore first started out, I did find his Roger N Me to be rather funny. I didn’t take it too serious, but it did look like he had a few good points about Roger.

After that it became appearant that he was just a rabid leftist throwing mud up against the wall to see how much he could get to stick. I’ve got no use for trash like that.


40 posted on 04/01/2008 7:11:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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To: Arec Barrwin
One thing all of you Bushee GOOPers forget: Oliver Stone actually fought for his country in Vietnam. What did our prezhidint do?
41 posted on 04/01/2008 7:36:43 PM PDT by trane250
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To: DoughtyOne

People need to stop thinking that a piece of drama is supposed to be historically accurate even it deals with historical figures. It’s not a criteria for good drama and has never at any time in the history of Western Civilization. Shakespeare’s History plays were great plays but terrible history. The list goes on...War and Peace, Amadeus. Even Stone’s Nixon was a good film if you realize it’s not a history lesson.


42 posted on 04/01/2008 8:09:47 PM PDT by Borges
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To: DoughtyOne

The standards of Hollywood are driven by two imperatives, making a buck and promoting the leftist agenda. Historical accuracy carries no weight because almost no one in Hollywood has any understanding of or appreciation for history. There are individual exceptions - John Milius (Rome) comes to mind - but for the most part, forget it.

People must be quite wary when approaching a film “based on a true story.”

I have made several, with varying degrees of historical fidelity. The primary objective is to make the film work dramatically. Then I try not to make an absolute mockery of the facts - always mindful that what has been written down, and even sometimes what has been photographed - is not necessarily the whole story...


43 posted on 04/01/2008 9:12:45 PM PDT by karnage
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To: karnage
There's a running joke amongst film buffs that “based on a true story” is just an excuse to introduce the most garish incidents and coincidences into a narrative that would never be tolerated in a work of pure fiction under the pretense that ‘it really happened’. I still maintain that the historian and the dramatist work with different tools and should not be held to the same standard.
44 posted on 04/02/2008 7:33:35 AM PDT by Borges
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To: trane250

LOL, Stone’s a commie, and has admitted his love for Castro, he can go to hell.

He is not fit to shine the President’s shoes.


45 posted on 04/02/2008 7:46:56 AM PDT by roses of sharon (Who will be McCain's maverick?)
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To: Borges

“I still maintain that the historian and the dramatist work with different tools and should not be held to the same standard.”

I agree. Also, your statement about ludicrous stuff being included in “true stories” under the armor of “it really happened” is quite accurate.

“You can’t make this stuff up!” is a justifying cry I have heard many times...


46 posted on 04/02/2008 9:36:28 AM PDT by karnage
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To: Arec Barrwin

I wouldn’t worry about this movie too much. As with most of the recent ‘bash Bush’ movies, not many people will see it, either in first run, or on DVD. Most folks won’t want to waste the time.


47 posted on 04/02/2008 10:13:21 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: trane250
What did our prezhidint do?

He was in the National Guard, and could have been sent over at any time, as were thousands of other young men at the time.

48 posted on 04/02/2008 10:18:18 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: R_Kangel

“I wonder what the chances are this will be magically released just before election ‘08.”

And imagine the embarassment on Stoned’s part when he realizes President Bush is not running in the next election.


49 posted on 05/14/2008 6:40:47 AM PDT by Disturbin (Liberals: buying votes with your tax dollars)
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