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'Mother's pride' is laid to rest (in Philly - black gang beats a white to death - Obama silent)
Philadelphia Daily News ^ | April 2nd, 2008 | Dafney Tales and David Gamacorta

Posted on 04/02/2008 7:23:32 AM PDT by 2banana

'Mother's pride' is laid to rest By DAFNEY TALES & DAVID GAMBACORTA Philadelphia Daily News

LONG AFTER the final hymn had been sung and the last rose had been laid across her son's bronze casket, Sharon Conroy sat in her quiet home in Lansdowne trying to make sense of it all.

Her mind drifted through a steady stream of tender memories of her son, Sean Patrick Conroy.

She could see him as an eager, grinning Cub Scout, then as the kid who went to dinner and a movie with her every Friday night until it seemed uncool at age 15.

She remembered his spontaneous move to California after high school to become an animator for Disney, then his return to the Philadelphia area, where he matured into his "mother's pride," working as a mentor in North Philly and helping out with charities.

He found a job that he loved, running a Center City Starbucks, fell in love with the woman of his dreams and, at age 36, planned on a full and happy life. "This was the gentle man I was lucky enough to call my son," Sharon Conroy said.

Then it all fell apart on an underground SEPTA platform in Center City last Wednesday afternoon, when four teens inexplicably attacked Conroy's son, kicking and punching him until he had a fatal asthma attack, police said.

Police arrested Kinta Stanton, 16, a 10th-grader at Simon Gratz High School, and charged him as an adult with murder. Stanton has refused to identify the other youths, who also attend Simon Gratz and remain on the loose, a police source said.

Last night, people who answered the door at Stanton's home on Smedley Street near Griscom told a reporter that they didn't know him.

The fatal attack, which investigators said had been unprovoked, has incensed citizens across the city, from everyday SEPTA riders to Conroy's friends and relatives.

They wonder why no one has turned in the other teens, or what could have prompted them in the first place to attack an innocent guy who was known for his gentle, easygoing nature.

Through it all, Sharon Conroy said she remains calm in this tumultuous sea of anger and pain.

"It's not to say that I'm not angry," she said yesterday, hours after her son was buried at Ss. Peter and Paul Cemetery, in Marple Township. "But my son was a gentle person and would have wanted us to get all the facts."

Conroy said nearly 200 teary-eyed mourners packed St. Cyril's Church, in Lansdowne, for her son's funeral, and the funeral procession included 170 cars.

Starbucks employees were among the attendees, including Mike Rose, a district manager, who talked about Conroy as helpful and compassionate.

Old friends from his Cub Scout days showed up, and a former employer from California sent a two-page euology about how "gentle and polite" Sean Patrick Conroy was.

On Easter Sunday, Conroy became engaged to his longtime girlfriend, Stevany Johar. Yesterday, Johar released a statement through Sharon Conroy, which read in part:

"I still cannot accept his death in so many ways. Everything reminds me of him. Part of me still believes that he will come home, give me a kiss and also a hug like he always did."

In the week since Conroy's death, SEPTA's subway lines have been flooded with more than two dozen members of the Guardian Angels, the civilian watchdog group that was founded in 1979 in response to violence on New York's subway system.

"SEPTA riders are terrified," said Curtis Sliwa, founder and president of the organization. "These kids come on like a tsunami onto trains and trolleys and start acting wild."

The Guardian Angels will patrol the Broad Street line and the Market-Frankford El Monday through Friday, from 1 to 5 p.m., to address commuters' fears. *

Daily News staff writers Mensah Dean and Kirstin Lindermayer contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: black; crime; gangs; getwhitey; nobama; obama; philadelphia; racism; stopsnitching; youths
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Notice how the article mentions no motive (black racism). The people of Philadelphia know. Obama is silent, wonder how is black church and pastor would comment?

Some LTTE and Reader Comments:

Subway attack

The subway attack on Sean Patrick Conroy (Inquirer, March 29) brought back some disturbing memories. In 1986, my brother and I were on the Broad Street line heading to LaSalle University. We were viciously attacked - for amusement - by 10 students. Unlike Conroy, we were able to fight back and hold some of the perpetrators until the police arrived. I suffered a broken nose and lacerations.

Many things in the stories are similar: black males attacking white victims, the SEPTA police doing a fantastic job, and the perpetrators' lives being ruined.

And, once again, the family and educational structures have failed, so the criminal justice system must provide relief. What a shame.

Joe Truitt Ambler

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What would the reaction to the beating death of Sean Patrick Conroy have been if he were black and the five youths were white? Would there be an automatic assumption that the motive was race-related? I don't know the answer, but if we are to continue to debate race issues as Obama makes his march toward the presidency, this type of tough question must be asked.

Robert Watterson, Philadelphia

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I take issue with the characterization of the attack on Mr. Conroy as "random." Mr. Conroy was probably singled out because he was white.

To conclude, without evidence, that this attack was perpetrated "for no reason" is to dismiss the possibility of this being a racial hate crime. Why do we presume that white people can only be perpetrators of racial hate crimes, and not also their victims?

Ross Chapman, Philadelphia

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It is amazing how several black youths jumped a white male, and it is not a hate crime. If it were white teens who jumped a black male, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been on the first plane to Killadelphia.

I think these punks should be tried as adults when caught, and also seek the death penalty. But I'm sure they will get off because they come from a broken home.

Diane L. Veteri

Lindenwold, N.J.

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When Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama used the thoughtless term "typical white person," was he referring in general to a decent man like Sean Conroy?

I assume that the senator, local politicians, members of the media and black community leaders will not utter as nonchalantly as Obama spoke of a Caucasian stereotype the term "typical young black person" to describe this cowardly group of criminals.

John Leonard, Philadelphia

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I'm outraged that this is called a random attack. If the victim were a black male attacked by white teens, it would be viewed as a racial attack. My thoughts and prayers go out to this young man's fiancée and his family.

Maybe someone with enough courage will come out and start noticing that there is a such thing as reverse discrimination.

Joann Vance, Williamstown, N.J.

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I assume Barack Obama's grandmother was a Philadelphia subway rider. He says she's "a typical white person," scared when she sees black people on the street. After hearing about the murder of Sean Patrick Conroy and how he was attacked for fun, I have to ask where Obama gets his intelligence.

Joseph Messina, Philadelphia

1 posted on 04/02/2008 7:23:34 AM PDT by 2banana
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To: 2banana

Random white.


2 posted on 04/02/2008 7:26:26 AM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: 2banana
Stanton has refused to identify the other youths, who also attend Simon Gratz and remain on the loose, a police source said.

Give me fifteen minutes of private time with Kinta Stanton and a household appliance of my choice.

I'll have those IDs in a jiffy.

3 posted on 04/02/2008 7:27:25 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: 2banana

Disgusting... using transit in Philadelphia is more dangerous than using transit in Baltimore.


4 posted on 04/02/2008 7:28:05 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: 2banana

This murder was clearly taken out of context.


5 posted on 04/02/2008 7:29:40 AM PDT by wilco200 (Typical White Person)
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To: TommyDale

But how DARE

a “typical white person”

look at a group of black youths with caution, fear, or suspicion.


6 posted on 04/02/2008 7:30:28 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: 2banana
Police arrested Kinta Stanton, 16, a 10th-grader at Simon Gratz High School, and charged him as an adult with murder. Stanton has refused to identify the other youths, who also attend Simon Gratz and remain on the loose, a police source said.

Well...he learned one thing in his community anyway.


7 posted on 04/02/2008 7:30:42 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: 2banana

Not only is Obama silent, the national media isn’t making much of a fuss either.


8 posted on 04/02/2008 7:30:57 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: pnh102

Just another typical whitey...


9 posted on 04/02/2008 7:31:23 AM PDT by Typical_Whitey ( Obama will keep Black Americans on the Democrats Economic Plantation.)
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To: 2banana

When are black people going stop murdering people?

BAN ME IF YOU WANT TO! SOMEONE HAS TO SAY IT!


10 posted on 04/02/2008 7:32:05 AM PDT by subterfuge
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To: TommyDale

“What would the reaction to the beating death of Sean Patrick Conroy have been if he were black and the five youths were white? Would there be an automatic assumption that the motive was race-related? I don’t know the answer, but if we are to continue to debate race issues as Obama makes his march toward the presidency, this type of tough question must be asked. “

Robert Watterson, Philadelphia

Hey Robert, I think you know the answer to your own question.


11 posted on 04/02/2008 7:32:07 AM PDT by Holicheese (Hillary deserves the CMoH for her time in Tuzla!)
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To: pnh102
Disgusting... using transit in Philadelphia is more dangerous than using transit in Baltimore.

Or Baghdad!

12 posted on 04/02/2008 7:32:47 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana
I wonder how long it is going to take Sharpton to come to the defense of the “Philly 5”

In defense of these poor Utes, they probably just finished watching a Reverend Wright sermon and felt the uncontrollable urge to go out and stomp whitey to death.

13 posted on 04/02/2008 7:33:24 AM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: 2banana

14 posted on 04/02/2008 7:33:41 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: 2banana

Prayers for Conroy’s loved ones.


15 posted on 04/02/2008 7:33:47 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: wideawake

Proposed headline: “Typical White Person Murdered by Typical Blacks”

The advance of racism is obvious. I believe it will get worse if Obama wins or loses. The stage is set.


16 posted on 04/02/2008 7:35:04 AM PDT by Loud Mime (If Muslims love death, why do they have hospitals?)
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To: subterfuge

It IS time to stop pussyfooting around this issue.

The Wright affair has opened my eyes to the hatred that exists, mostly one way.

The thing is, it’s not PC, and considered racist, to call evil evil when it is perpetrated by a victim class.


17 posted on 04/02/2008 7:35:32 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: wideawake

“Give me fifteen minutes of private time with Kinta Stanton and a household appliance of my choice.”

And, the O.J.-esque “black community” will conceal the identies of the other perps. You can bet they know who they are, but they want to protect them from “the man.”


18 posted on 04/02/2008 7:35:35 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: 2banana
Pennsylvania is a Shall Issue State, and has been for years.

Does SEPTA have special rules banning concealed weapons? How 'bout Philly generally?

There is a solution to this problem ... it involves a few dead thugs.

19 posted on 04/02/2008 7:37:29 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: MrB

Thanks you and Amen!

Reporters don’t even give descriptions of killers on the loose, we’re so PC anymore.


20 posted on 04/02/2008 7:37:37 AM PDT by subterfuge
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To: 2banana

In the 90s, the media were calling these kinds of inidents “wolfpack” attacks, but they were forced to drop the name as “racist.”

But of course it’s an exactly appropriate descriptive term. They identified some weakness in him, they circled him exactly the way predators will, and attacked him in a group until he was dead.


21 posted on 04/02/2008 7:38:22 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: wideawake

“Give me fifteen minutes of private time with Kinta Stanton”

Might the conversation go like this one from Pulp Fiction?

Butch: You okay?
Marsellus: Naw man. I’m pretty ###### far from okay.
Butch: What now?
Marsellus: What now? Let me tell you what now. I’ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin’ #######, who’ll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You hear me talkin’, hillbilly boy? I ain’t through with you by a damn sight. I’ma get medieval on your ###.


22 posted on 04/02/2008 7:39:26 AM PDT by RedRightReturn (Do you know how to catch wild pigs?)
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To: Loud Mime
I believe it will get worse if Obama wins or loses.

Well I can absolutely guarantee you that either Obama will be our next president ... or he won't.

23 posted on 04/02/2008 7:39:36 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: 2banana
"Stanton has refused to identify the other youths"

Fine. Not like they won't be found.

But when your court-appointed lawyer asks for leniency, don't be surprised when we respond exactly the same way.

24 posted on 04/02/2008 7:40:18 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: NonValueAdded

You best start praying for our cities and our people. If they don’t put a serious stop to this, you will see more of it. Life has no meaning to the people that did the killing. It’s a way of life for them and they really don’t care. Why should we care about them?


25 posted on 04/02/2008 7:42:22 AM PDT by RC2
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To: wilco200

The way I see it...

Since, B-HO said that “typical white people” are racists like his grandmother, these poor “yutes” were terrorized and traumatized by the appearance of this horrible and evil “racist” in their midst.

That “typical white person” was guilty of a hate crime just by trying to catch the subway.

Well, that’s what their pastor told them...

So, according to your “typical black person” - these “good boys that don’t hurt anyone” were just acting in self-defense.


26 posted on 04/02/2008 7:43:06 AM PDT by rock_lobsta (Client #10)
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To: ArrogantBustard

The best thing that could happen would be for the Clintons to “steal” the nomination from Obama.

The wrath will be on the dhimmirats and not on the rest of the country.


27 posted on 04/02/2008 7:43:49 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: robertpaulsen
But when your court-appointed lawyer asks for leniency, don't be surprised when we respond exactly the same way.

The youths already have leniency. It is illegal to put to death any convict for capital crimes committed as a minor, thanks to the Supreme Court.

28 posted on 04/02/2008 7:47:20 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: denydenydeny
"They identified some weakness in him, they circled him exactly the way predators will, and attacked him in a group until he was dead."

If I recall, the New York subway got real safe after Bernie Goetz took matters into his own hands.

29 posted on 04/02/2008 7:47:57 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Channon Christian and Christopher Newsome were victims of a terrible hate crime.

Typical White Kids.....

30 posted on 04/02/2008 7:48:49 AM PDT by Loud Mime (If Muslims love death, why do they have hospitals?)
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To: pnh102

That won’t save them from life in prison, though.


31 posted on 04/02/2008 7:49:52 AM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: 2banana

Crime in Phila is totally out of control. Even though we live 60 miles away, people are called there to federal jury duty. When my daughter was called, I went with her.


32 posted on 04/02/2008 7:50:15 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: subterfuge

“When are black people going stop murdering people?”

More like when are they going to stop murdering themselves. Most black violence is black on black.


33 posted on 04/02/2008 7:51:36 AM PDT by Larebil (My name is liberal backwards, since they backwards thinking)
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Don't let anyone tell you that the kind of lies, hatred and racial paranoia preached by the likes of Rev. Wright—paranoia that Obama says must be understood “in context”—does not influence Black attitudes and behavior. There has been an epidemic of Black on white violence—in Maryland, Florida, North Carolina, Columbus Georgia, Tennessee. The MSM will never connect the dots or even report these incidents in the national press. But we have the internet now. And white people who live in urban areas know it is extremely imprudent and even dangerous to venture into Black majority neighborhoods, places where young people have been taught, at home, on “urban radio” and even, God help us, in some churches, that white people are legitimate targets. Words, as Obama himself has said, have consequences.
34 posted on 04/02/2008 7:52:36 AM PDT by Godwin1
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To: Loud Mime

They were the victims of a horrible racist crime ... and the PC retards in MSM ignored it.

There’s also some kinda creepy stuff at that site you linked.


35 posted on 04/02/2008 7:53:47 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Larebil
More like when are they going to stop murdering themselves. Most black violence is black on black.

That is what I meant. When are they going to quit murdering PEOPLE, especially blacks.

And while I'm at it, when is the media going to notice that abortionists are mostly aborting black babies?

36 posted on 04/02/2008 7:55:46 AM PDT by subterfuge
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To: darkangel82
That won’t save them from life in prison, though.

So instead of life, this thug gets 20 years, probably 20 months with good behavior (provided he is even convicted at all). That means in 20 years we have to deal with this criminal once again. I miss the old days when a prosecutor could dangle a life sentence in front of a defendant as a form of leniency.

37 posted on 04/02/2008 7:56:26 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: 2banana
People have come to rely to much upon being protected by the police.

Jesus said: "and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."

That word sword is machaira. And yes it does mean sword, but it also means weapon of war and weapon used for judicial punishment. So, today it means gun, tank, tactical nuke. Well maybe not tactical nuke, but definitely guns, long, short and shot.

Now does the lord really mean sell your clothes and buy a gun if you don't already have one? Seems as if He does; himation, a dress (inner or outer, apparel, cloke, clothes, garment, raiment, robe, vesture.

Ya, I would say Jesus was saying "If you don't have a weapon of war, a weapon for judicial punishment, go buy one. And if you don't have enough money, well it is better to be naked and armed than clothed and unarmed.

Perhaps that white guy who got beat up should have spent a little more time study God's word and a little less time dialing 911.

38 posted on 04/02/2008 7:56:48 AM PDT by deuteronlmy232 ("I AM the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me." Jesus)
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To: ArrogantBustard

That creepy stuff on the website makes my skin crawl.

We need to look at things as they are, not as the politicians paint it.


39 posted on 04/02/2008 8:01:10 AM PDT by Loud Mime (If Muslims love death, why do they have hospitals?)
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To: 2banana

“Random” is the new code word for black on white crime.

Think of it as the opposite of “Hate” crime.

Thus we have

White on Black = Hate Crime.
Black on White = Random Crime.

Instructions have gone out to police departments, newspapers and TV stations as this is now how things are reported.


40 posted on 04/02/2008 8:01:22 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Yeah, if it wasn’t random, then it was, by definition, TARGETED.

And if it was a bunch of black perps TARGETING a lone white person, that would imply some sort of racial motivation.


41 posted on 04/02/2008 8:02:50 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: 2banana

“Obama is silent”

Not to defend the black Marxist but do you expect commentary from McCain when MS-13 slaughters an American family?


42 posted on 04/02/2008 8:03:03 AM PDT by Grunthor (http://constitutionparty.com/join.php)
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To: NonValueAdded

Likewise.


43 posted on 04/02/2008 8:05:19 AM PDT by deuteronlmy232 ("I AM the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me." Jesus)
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To: 2banana

44 posted on 04/02/2008 8:07:37 AM PDT by Gritty (The proper question is not whether it is "discrimination" but whether it is justified-Mona Charen)
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To: Loud Mime
The advance of racism is obvious. I believe it will get worse if Obama wins or loses. The stage is set.

I fear you are right. I don't think any of us who are white had any idea of the hated towards whites that is being preached in the black churches. And the comments I'm hearing and reading by whites and blacks concerning the hatred preached leads me to think of the late 60's and early 70's.

45 posted on 04/02/2008 8:07:41 AM PDT by deuteronlmy232 ("I AM the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me." Jesus)
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To: 2banana

Hmmm...

Simon Gratz High School? What is the major lessons at the school — ‘How to kill white people’? What is the nickname for the school - ‘the MURDERERS’?


46 posted on 04/02/2008 8:08:54 AM PDT by EagleandLiberty (El Rushbo Tribal name -- RinoHunter)
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To: subterfuge
When are black people going stop murdering people?

I just had a cousin killed in his own home at 3:00 a.m. in the morning. His wife stated that the voices sounded like black people. I predict blacks will stop murdering when enough potential victims start shooting the S.O.B.'s.

47 posted on 04/02/2008 8:11:04 AM PDT by badbass
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To: badbass
His wife stated that the voices sounded like black people.

RACISM!! YOU CAN'T SAY THAT! Johnny Cochran said you cannot tell the race of someone by their speech!!! Aaack! (sorry)

48 posted on 04/02/2008 8:13:10 AM PDT by subterfuge
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To: RedRightReturn

“...pair of pliers and a blow torch.”

Gulp.


49 posted on 04/02/2008 8:13:24 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: 2banana

The inconvenient silence of BHObama bump!


50 posted on 04/02/2008 8:13:55 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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