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Iraqis Fight Like Americans
Strategy Page ^ | 3/28/08 | N/A

Posted on 04/02/2008 4:06:27 PM PDT by Dawnsblood

The Iraqi security forces are replacing all of their AK-47s with U.S. M-16 and M-4 assault rifles. To that end, it has ordered another 100,000 M-16 rifles. In the last two years, it has received 235,000 M-16 and M-4 rifles. This new order, includes 4,000 AN/PVS-7D Night Vision scopes and a lot of support gear.

Many Iraqi troops are not keen on getting the M-16. They know it is more accurate, and that they are getting more target practice to improve their shooting skills. But the M-16 requires more maintenance. You have to clean it a lot. The less accurate AK-47 was much more tolerant when it came to sand and dust. However, Iraqi NCOs and junior officers tend to prefer the M-16 for its lighter weight, and lighter ammo. The M-16 ammo weighs more than a third less than AK-47 rounds. That extra accuracy and ammo can be a lifesaver in combat. Iraqi NCOs also note that the U.S. troops manage to keep their weapons clean, and believe that Iraqis can be trained to be as diligent.

Iraqis may differ on whether U.S. troops should be in the country, but all agree that the Americans are formidable warriors. Increasingly, Iraqi troops are wearing similar combat uniforms and driving hummers. The Iraqi soldiers consciously copy their U.S. counterparts. This includes handling their weapons, and moving around, in a similar fashion. But it isn't all superficial imitation, the Iraqis stand and fight now. U.S. troops, back in Iraq after having been away for a year or so, are pleasantly surprised to find, when called to reinforce an Iraqi unit under fire, that the Iraqis are now fighting harder and smarter. In the past, the U.S. troops would often show up to find the Iraqi troops or police had fled.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: basra; iraq; iraqiarmy; leadership; m16

1 posted on 04/02/2008 4:06:27 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: Dawnsblood
It also has alot to do with ammo quality.
2 posted on 04/02/2008 4:09:03 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: Dawnsblood

maybe ALL these weapons will get to the IRAQ army this time.


3 posted on 04/02/2008 4:11:30 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Dawnsblood

A great role model can lead to local greatness!


4 posted on 04/02/2008 4:17:41 PM PDT by Jagman (Liberalism is a "progressive" disease)
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To: Dawnsblood

Good to see the opponents of the war won’t be able to label indigenous forces as bad soldiers like they did with the ARVN in Vietnam.

Just out of curiosity, were the ARVN as bad as most books on Vietnam label them?


5 posted on 04/02/2008 4:19:06 PM PDT by RWB Patriot
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To: Dawnsblood
Uh oh...

You DON'T want to start another 7.62mm, vs. .223 debate on this thread, do you?

Consensus in early debates on this have come out in favor of the larger round. However, I thought that the weight question that they bring up here is telling.

6 posted on 04/02/2008 5:10:34 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Dawnsblood

I can imagine the pride these units feel when they defend their country. If they model their fighting spirit and attitude after our soldiers they will be a great force in protecting the peace in the region.


7 posted on 04/02/2008 5:48:22 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: RWB Patriot
"...were the ARVN as bad as most books on Vietnam label them?"

No, they were some of the bravest men I ever saw under fire. They were terribly led and often betrayed by their corrupt military and political leaders.

8 posted on 04/02/2008 6:02:20 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
Ditto
9 posted on 04/02/2008 6:11:45 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: Dawnsblood

WOW! I thought you were pointing me to an article on the M4 and its sensitivity to ammo. That was stunning.


10 posted on 04/02/2008 6:37:17 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: Dawnsblood

I’ll bet Iraqi military and police units could order some varmint hunting ammo that would make those 5.56 rounds a lot more lethal than FMJ!!


11 posted on 04/03/2008 1:01:54 PM PDT by darth
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