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Man Accused of Cover-Up in Ricin Probe
AP via SFGate ^ | 4/2/8

Posted on 04/02/2008 4:45:44 PM PDT by SmithL

Salt Lake City (AP) -- A federal grand jury on Wednesday indicted the cousin of a man who was apparently poisoned by the deadly toxin ricin.

Thomas Tholen, 54, was indicted on a charge of misprision of felony. U.S. Attorney Brett Tolman said Tholen knew ricin had been illegally produced but did not report it to authorities and lied to cover up his concealment.

"The consequences of this action could have been disastrous," Tolman said.

Tholen, of Riverton, is the cousin of Roger Bergendorff, who apparently was poisoned by ricin and suffered respiratory ailments. He regained consciousness March 12 after about a month in a Las Vegas hospital.

A brother, Erich Bergendorff, has said it's not clear if Roger Bergendorff made the ricin or watched someone else do it.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: bergendorff; ricin; rogerbergendorff; tholen; thomastholen

1 posted on 04/02/2008 4:45:45 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

just fun stuff guys do in their garage /sarc


2 posted on 04/02/2008 4:59:09 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: colorcountry; Utah Binger; Tennessee Nana; JRochelle

Ping


3 posted on 04/02/2008 5:03:45 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (An "Inconvenient Truth".....Save the Earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: SmithL

I’ve always wanted a secret laboratory... but these days, it might get me in trouble.


4 posted on 04/02/2008 5:06:16 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: penelopesire

PING to your lists.

Cousin of Coma Guy Indicted in Ricin Cover-up.

It’s also not clear if Roger Bergendorff produced the ricin or watched someone else do it. The plot thickens. Lots of unanswered questions.


5 posted on 04/02/2008 6:05:08 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: SmithL
What's the fuss
They were trying out new recipes...


6 posted on 04/02/2008 6:28:30 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Deo volente

OMG! I haven’t been pinging the list much on this story...but this is real news! Thanks for the ping. going back to read it and will add a few cents later. Thanks again.


7 posted on 04/02/2008 6:33:33 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: SmithL; ScaniaBoy; Cooter; eyespysomething; B4Ranch; Alamo-Girl; Triple; MJY1288; potlatch; ...

DOMESTIC TERRORISM ALERT. Please let me know by freepmail if you want to be put on or taken off this list. Thanks.


8 posted on 04/02/2008 6:35:13 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we’re still retarded.)
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To: ovrtaxt

They are actually going to try him for a treason related crime?

Awesome!!


9 posted on 04/02/2008 6:39:36 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (We're at the FReepicenter - Down with big brother.)
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To: RDTF; TornadoAlley3; PennsylvaniaMom; angcat; nicmarlo; bonfire; no-to-illegals; RummyChick; ...

PING! Hope I did not leave anyone out of the ping list. Trying to find it now...lol.


10 posted on 04/02/2008 6:46:26 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

ha!


11 posted on 04/02/2008 6:51:33 PM PDT by RDTF (my worst nightmare is being on jury duty sequestered with 11 liberals)
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To: RDTF

Keep going back to this bit I ‘sleuthed’ in the first thread:

The war on terror : implications for the future of U.S. relations with France and Germany
by Thomas S Tholen

http://worldcat.org/wcpa/oclc/57453223

???
Wonder if there is going to be a connection?


12 posted on 04/02/2008 6:57:54 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
Yikes!

I guess you are one of those "ban guns" Liberals.

You never know when those organic chemicals might suddenly levitate and kill someone!

For us educated Americans, we know that Ricin is a chemical produced from bacteria which naturally grows on Castor beans.

I you want to try someone for treason, it would have to be mother nature and her bacteria.

13 posted on 04/02/2008 6:59:04 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: Deo volente; All

It is unfortunate that the FBI dude’s name is Tolman and comma dude’s cousin is Tholen.
Already messing up my messy googles....more later....’developing’...
LOL


14 posted on 04/02/2008 7:02:31 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

always wondered about that too!


15 posted on 04/02/2008 7:04:03 PM PDT by RDTF (my worst nightmare is being on jury duty sequestered with 11 liberals)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misprision_of_felony

FYI:(snip)

“Misprision of terrorism
Misprision has in effect been recriminalised in England and Wales, in the case of terrorism (although the name misprision is not used): failing to disclose information that could have prevented an act of terrorism and failing to disclose information that may help police investigate an act of terrorism are both offences.”

This might be the case with this charge....


16 posted on 04/02/2008 7:12:59 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: ovrtaxt

Very interesting, thank you.


17 posted on 04/02/2008 7:17:15 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: coconutt2000

“I’ve always wanted a secret laboratory... but these days, it might get me in trouble.”

I have one. Not a big one. If you get one, make sure you have room. Every time I turn around, my cape knocks over stuff. And, after a week’s use, my tights get baggy knees.

Plus, it’s hard to use a microscope wearing a mask.


18 posted on 04/02/2008 7:20:28 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: RDTF

Oh GADS..found this on a google...LMAO.

DU picked up on my post back then and then wondered ‘if it was a freeper’...LOL

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x342371

“Further Googling found links to a Thomas S Tholen Jr., who had written a book on terrorism, The war on terror : implications for the future of U.S. relations with France and Germany / by Thomas S. Tholen, Jr.
but the link was found on the right wing freeper site, freerepublic.com, and there is no confirmation of an tie to the cousin reported by AP.”

LOL!!


19 posted on 04/02/2008 7:29:41 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

they lurk they lurk! LMAO


20 posted on 04/02/2008 7:30:54 PM PDT by RDTF (my worst nightmare is being on jury duty sequestered with 11 liberals)
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To: SmithL

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=8109795&nav=menu102_2

Interesting pictures of coma dude and Tholen side by side. They both look ‘plum tuckered out’ and a bit ‘inbreed’ if you ask me...lol


21 posted on 04/02/2008 7:39:52 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: ovrtaxt

Thanks for the ping!


22 posted on 04/02/2008 8:44:24 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: ovrtaxt

Thank you for the ping, very interesting.


23 posted on 04/02/2008 9:27:08 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: Hunble

“I guess you are one of those “ban guns” Liberals.”

Sir, that is an uncalled for insult - please stop.


24 posted on 04/03/2008 1:05:41 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (We're at the FReepicenter - Down with big brother.)
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To: penelopesire

Thanks for the ping!!

wow. Finally some news on this case.


25 posted on 04/03/2008 1:13:32 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: Hunble

Lemme see if I got this right.

This guy knew his cousin manufactured an illegal substance, ricin, which is on of the most toxic poisons on earth for uses of terror, and you are calling ME an anti gun liberal because I enjoy seeing treason related charges brought against him for knowing and not reporting it?

How did you get in here?


26 posted on 04/03/2008 1:15:30 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (We're at the FReepicenter - Down with big brother.)
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To: penelopesire

I always thought that was a peculiar coincidence, too—thanks for the ping.


27 posted on 04/03/2008 7:15:19 AM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: Hunble

I’m not sure what you’re getting at—but if someone’s cooking up a batch of ANYTHING that can kill large numbers of people, that is going to be considered a crime. The reasons they are doing it would determine whether or not it’s treason.


28 posted on 04/03/2008 7:21:15 AM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: DBrow
Plus, it’s hard to use a microscope wearing a mask.

Yeah, tell me about it. ;-)

29 posted on 04/03/2008 4:52:57 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: DBrow
Plus, it’s hard to use a microscope wearing a mask.

That's why you need a Faithful Indian Companion!


30 posted on 04/04/2008 10:40:28 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: penelopesire

Except for the beard (and the washed out color due to photography), they could be twins.

What’s with the statement by investigators that they don’t yet know where the ricin was produced, when the search warrant itemized the hot plates and beakers?

Also curious: the US Attorneys’ commment about motive being possibly to selectively target an “individual.” Then why the need for so much ricin? Anyone capable of making the stuff knows they could stop after the first batch.


31 posted on 04/07/2008 9:51:19 AM PDT by Eroteme
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To: Eroteme

It is all pretty bizarre. Have not looked for any follow up reports since the news came out. Might try to do that later. Thanks for the reply.


32 posted on 04/07/2008 10:47:05 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire; Cindy

Just thought about this and did a search.
That guy could be in a big heap of trouble.
Very strange family and leisure pursuits.


33 posted on 04/07/2008 7:55:20 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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