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Dutch MP indicted for insulting Islam
Brussels Journal ^ | 1 April 08 | Thomas Landen

Posted on 04/03/2008 6:06:45 AM PDT by LSUfan

The Austrian authorities have indicted politician Susanne Winter on charges of incitement and degradation of religious symbols and religious agitation. This offence carries a maximum sentence of two years. Last January, Ms Winter said that the prophet Muhammad was “a child molester” because he had married a six-year-old girl. She also said he was “a warlord” who had written the Koran during “epileptic fits.”

The politician, a member of the Austrian Freedom Party FPÖ, an anti-immigration party which is in opposition, added that Islam is “a totalitarian system of domination that should be cast back to its birthplace on the other side of the Mediterranean.” She also warned for “a Muslim immigration tsunami,” saying that “in 20 or 30 years, half the population of Austria will be Muslim” if the present immigration policies continue.

Following her remarks, Muslim extremists threatened to kill Susanne Winter and she was placed under police protection. Today, the Justice Department in Vienna announced that Ms Winter will be charged with “incitement and degradation of religious symbols” (Verhetzung und Herabwürdigung religiöser Symbole). If convicted she may have to serve up to two years in jail for her opinions.

However, Alfred Hrdlicka, the Austrian “artist” who depicted Jesus and his apostles engaging in homosexual acts of sodomy during the Last Supper, has not been indicted. Nor will he be. Depicting Jesus sodomizing his apostles is not considered to be a “degradation of religious symbols” in Austria, but referring to the historic fact that Muhammad married a six-year old girl is “incitement to racial hatred.”

Neither has Mr Hrdlicka been threatened by Christian assassins for his “opinions.” The difference between Christian and Muslim extremists is that the former do not aim to kill those who offend them, but the latter do – which is perhaps also why the European authorities fear the radical Muslims and persecute their opponents while they subsidize those who insult Christians.

Meanwhile, it has become clear that only 144 of the 785 members of the European Parliament have supported the proposal of Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a former Dutch politician who lives in hiding following death threats from Islamists, to establish a European fund to protect people who are stalked by assassins for their opinions. Ms Hirsi Ali is under de facto house arrest because the Dutch authorities are only willing to protect her while she remains in the Netherlands, but not when she travels abroad. Due to the lack of protection she is confined to hide-outs in the Netherlands.

Last month, Henk Hofland, a leading Dutch journalist, proposed that the Dutch authorities lift the police protection of Geert Wilders, another politician whom radical Muslims want to assassinate for his opinions. Several Dutch individuals and organizations have lodged complaints against Mr Wilders for incitement to racial hatred because he made a 15-minute film, called Fitna, to express his views about Islam.

VNO-NCW, the Federation of Dutch Employers, has ordered its lawyers to see whether it is possible to claim damages from Mr Wilders for the loss of income which Dutch companies may possibly suffer as a result of a boycott of Dutch products by Muslims who are angry at Mr Wilders and at the fact that the Dutch have not been able to shut him up. “Companies like Shell, Philips and Unilever are easy to recognize as Dutch companies,” VNO-NCW chairman Bernard Wientjes told the newspaper Het Financieele Dagblad. “I do not know how rich Geert Wilders is, or how well insured he is, but if we suffer from a boycott, we will investigate whether it is possible to claim damages from him.” Last November, Doekle Terpstra, a member of the board of Unilever, called upon the Dutch to “rise in order to stop Wilders” because “Geert Wilders is evil and evil has to be stopped.”

Today in neighbouring Belgium the government’s anti-discrimination body CEOOR warned bloggers and websites to remove their links to Wilders’s movie. The CEOOR states that the movie aims to foster “fear, distrust and hatred of Muslims.” The anti-discrimination body has asked the Belgians to be “vigilant” and to report “cases of incitement to hatred and/or discrimination.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dhimmi; gwot; islam; nationalsuicide; pc; surrender; terrorism
The light of free expression is being snuffed out in Europe by an alliance of Islamists and the self-hating politically correct crowd.
1 posted on 04/03/2008 6:06:46 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan

Other than Mozart, Marzipan, and Johann Strauss, WTF has insignificant lil’ Austria done for the world?

Oh yeah...that short corporal with the funny mustache. </sarc>


2 posted on 04/03/2008 6:10:00 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: LSUfan

I’m quite sure Ms. Winter would have been indicted if she had said similar things about Christianity.


3 posted on 04/03/2008 6:10:44 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: LSUfan

Europe is finished... and they’re doing it to themselves with alacrity.


4 posted on 04/03/2008 6:11:05 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: LSUfan
And these same people are silent when the likes of a Mapplethorpe appear on the scene.

Sort of like ‘Civil Rights’ in the U.S. where such rights inure to a select, Politically Correct few.

5 posted on 04/03/2008 6:11:10 AM PDT by TCats (The Clintons Are Not Just Wrong - They Are Certifiable AND Dangerous! See my Page)
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To: LSUfan

For some reason, I typed “Dutch” into the headline. I need another cup of coffee.


6 posted on 04/03/2008 6:12:51 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Don’t forget that Austria also started WWI.


7 posted on 04/03/2008 6:17:27 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Rummyfan

“alacrity”

Only other person I know that uses that word is Dennis Miller.


8 posted on 04/03/2008 6:19:02 AM PDT by edcoil (Go Great in 08 ... Slide into 09)
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To: MEGoody
I’m quite sure Ms. Winter would have been indicted if she had said similar things about Christianity.

Either you are being sarcastic..or you didn't read the article.

9 posted on 04/03/2008 6:20:49 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: LSUfan

If Austria indicts this clown for disparaging islam they really wouldn’t care to have a discussion with mo on the subject.
Islam, the culture of death led by murderers and scum.
I gently pass flatuence in the general direction of Mecca.


10 posted on 04/03/2008 6:21:36 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: LSUfan

You are forgiven. Besides, Austria or the Netherlands; both countries have little spine.


11 posted on 04/03/2008 6:22:36 AM PDT by Dogrobber
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To: Emperor Palpatine

And Sigmund Freud and Adolph Eichman too!


12 posted on 04/03/2008 6:24:05 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Oh yeah...that short corporal with the funny mustache.

OMG, stop, pissing myself laughing over here!

13 posted on 04/03/2008 6:25:10 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: All

Might be a good thing. You can’t be insulting to Islam by speaking the truth. I’d like to see the government prove she maliciously lied.


14 posted on 04/03/2008 6:28:45 AM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: LSUfan

SOOOOOOOOOOoooooo......what was she arrested for?......telling the truth? Were the Muzzies that threatened her life arrested? How do they know she was threatened and not know by whom....enquiring minds wanna know!!


15 posted on 04/03/2008 6:33:29 AM PDT by Wavrnr10 (Eagles soar but weasels don't get sucked in jet engines)
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To: farlander
You can’t be insulting to Islam by speaking the truth.

Already a precedent in AustRALia. A man on trial for "religious intolerance" read the relevant passages of the Koran in court that supported what he'd said that was "intolerant". The plaintiff objected, and the judge upheld, that the reading of the Koran itself was "religiously intolerant".

16 posted on 04/03/2008 6:34:46 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: LSUfan

The double standard is firmly entrenched in the legal system of the United States, and most European countries.


17 posted on 04/03/2008 6:35:25 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: LSUfan

Sometimes I wonder if these are the same people that filled the ranks of the Wehrmacht and the SS. Putting all moral and political debate aside - at least they FOUGHT - and fought damn hard...


18 posted on 04/03/2008 6:37:15 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: LSUfan

Usually, Truth makes quite a fine defense. Sadly, in Europe today, I’m not sure that matters.


19 posted on 04/03/2008 6:38:06 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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To: MrB

Huh ? Ok that’s it, those people are officially INSANE. They’re are insane. I’m gonna go buy more guns.


20 posted on 04/03/2008 6:38:30 AM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: Admin Moderator

Can you fix the title? It should read Austrian, not Dutch. Thanks!


21 posted on 04/03/2008 6:39:53 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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To: Osage Orange
Either you are being sarcastic.

How'd you guess? ;)

22 posted on 04/03/2008 6:41:47 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: LSUfan

The light of free expression isn’t doing much better in the US. Did you know that Netflix has withdrawn the movie “Obsession,” with no explanation. It simply says “withdrawn.” I’m sure the Muzzies got to them.


23 posted on 04/03/2008 6:41:49 AM PDT by livius
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To: farlander

More info:

http://www.amazon.com/Politically-Incorrect-Guide-Crusades-Guides/dp/0895260131


24 posted on 04/03/2008 6:44:55 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MEGoody

“I’m quite sure Ms. Winter would have been indicted if she had said similar things about Christianity.”

Are you being sarcastic?

She spoke the truth, which facts bear out.

What worse things could have been portrayed of Christ and the disciples that would have brought conviction? or even mild concern? Europeans do not care about blaspheming the Son of God....


25 posted on 04/03/2008 6:48:40 AM PDT by bperiwinkle7 ( In the beginning was the WORD................)
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To: LSUfan

I guess 9-11 scared the CHIT outta the whole entire world. OSAMA’S gamble paid off like a charm!!


26 posted on 04/03/2008 6:53:44 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Emperor Palpatine
"Other than Mozart, Marzipan, and Johann Strauss, WTF has insignificant lil’ Austria done for the world?"

Wienerschnitzel?

Bunches of good beers?

27 posted on 04/03/2008 6:58:09 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: MEGoody

You would be quite wrong.


28 posted on 04/03/2008 7:00:22 AM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: Dogrobber

It has been illegal in Austria to use persecutory language against minority groups for a long time. For very obvious reasons.....


29 posted on 04/03/2008 7:01:04 AM PDT by thundrey
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To: Rummyfan

Europe is not one country....


30 posted on 04/03/2008 7:01:51 AM PDT by thundrey
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To: LSUfan

Apparently, in Australia, the truth will NOT set you free.


31 posted on 04/03/2008 7:01:51 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: LSUfan
I suppose the same could be said about Austria as well.

Where's my damned coffee?

32 posted on 04/03/2008 7:03:07 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: thundrey

True, but the EU is trying to make it so.


33 posted on 04/03/2008 7:07:34 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: farlander
I’m gonna go buy more guns.

I used to say that too. Now it's "I'm gonna go buy more ammo".

34 posted on 04/03/2008 7:15:49 AM PDT by Hazwaste (Vote! Vote for the conservative local, state, and national candidates of your choice, but VOTE!)
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To: LSUfan
Quick! Someone paint a picture of Jesus and Muhammad engaged in homosexual sex.

Their heads will explode from an overload of doublethink.

35 posted on 04/03/2008 7:18:18 AM PDT by HundredDollars
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To: Rummyfan

BINGO!


36 posted on 04/03/2008 7:34:57 AM PDT by A. Morgan (VOTE FOR A LIBERAL N' WE'LL BE UP TO OUR NECKS IN ILLEGALS and OUTA' GAS!)
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To: LSUfan

Is this Scrappleface?

geez.. it could be


37 posted on 04/03/2008 8:14:46 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: MEGoody
Never know around here anymore..........

Ha!!

38 posted on 04/03/2008 8:28:03 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: Mr. K

No.


39 posted on 04/03/2008 8:30:21 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: milford421

Ping.


40 posted on 04/03/2008 8:49:04 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: NavVet
You would be quite wrong.

I know. I was being sarcastic. (I know it can be hard to tell sometimes.)

41 posted on 04/03/2008 9:00:05 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: bperiwinkle7
Are you being sarcastic?

Yes. I guess I should have used a tag. . .you're the third person who asked.

42 posted on 04/03/2008 9:01:07 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
"Other than Mozart, Marzipan, and Johann Strauss, WTF has insignificant lil’ Austria done for the world?"

Also provided us with the Goobernator...

43 posted on 04/03/2008 10:45:38 AM PDT by drc43 (US won despite us... NOW what?... Nancy Pelosi)
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To: LSUfan
Anyone who thinks for one minute that the moonbats won't try to enact similar laws here, violating the First Amendment, and get away with it, is fooling themselves.

This is simply a preview of what the Obama administration will bring...

44 posted on 04/03/2008 12:46:27 PM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
The hills are alive with the sound of Jihad...


45 posted on 04/03/2008 12:57:27 PM PDT by xp38
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To: xp38
Bombs on school bus-ses!
And planes into buildings!
Si-lencing critics!
And infidel be-headings!
Explosives tied up - with bright pretty strings -
These are a few of my favorite things.....


(With apologies to Rodgers and Hammerstein....)
46 posted on 04/04/2008 9:46:01 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (And infidel beheadings)
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