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Muslim true/false ["Islamophobia" causing terror]
LA Slimes ^ | Apr. 3, 2008 | John L. Esposito and Dalia Mogahed

Posted on 04/03/2008 8:37:44 AM PDT by Alouette

Winning hearts and minds -- the Bush administration, foreign policy wonks, even the U.S. military agree that this is the key to any victory over global terrorism. Yet our public diplomacy program has made little progress on improving America's image. Few seem to recognize that American ignorance of Islam and Muslims has been the fatal flaw.

How much do Americans know about the views and beliefs of Muslims around the world? According to polls, not much. Perhaps not surprising, the majority of Americans (66%) admit to having at least some prejudice against Muslims; one in five say they have "a great deal" of prejudice. Almost half do not believe American Muslims are "loyal" to this country, and one in four do not want a Muslim as a neighbor.

Why should such anti-Muslim bias concern us? First, it undermines the war on terrorism: Situations are misdiagnosed, root causes are misidentified and bad prescriptions do more harm than good. Second, it makes our public diplomacy sound like double-talk. U.S. diplomats are trying to convince Muslims around the world that the United States respects them and that the war on terrorism is not out to destroy Islam. Their task is made infinitely more difficult by the frequent airing of anti-Muslim sentiment on right-wing call-in radio, which is then heard around the world on the Internet.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: barf; islam; islamophobia; puke; vomit

1 posted on 04/03/2008 8:37:44 AM PDT by Alouette
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2 posted on 04/03/2008 8:40:31 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Alouette
Why should such anti-Muslim bias concern us?

Because the numbers aren't high enough?

3 posted on 04/03/2008 8:40:51 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Great spirits will always encounter violent opposition from mediocre minds.)
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To: Alouette
I have a prejudice against all sheep lovers.
4 posted on 04/03/2008 8:43:41 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Alouette

Count me among the prejudiced.


5 posted on 04/03/2008 8:44:37 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: Alouette

Stop Jihad Now.


6 posted on 04/03/2008 8:46:26 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: Alouette
Heavy dose of SPIN in this pile of words.
8 posted on 04/03/2008 8:51:03 AM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: Alouette
it makes our public diplomacy sound like double-talk. U.S. diplomats are trying to convince Muslims around the world that the United States respects them and that the war on terrorism is not out to destroy Islam.

Well, either the opinions of American citizens are wrong, or else the policy pushed by US diplomats is wrong.

Who you gonna believe, me or your lyin' eyes? I know what Muslims believe, I see what they do. Our diplomatic approach needs to change. We need to repurpose the war on terrorism and try to destroy Islam.

9 posted on 04/03/2008 8:53:00 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Alouette

Call the WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE!


10 posted on 04/03/2008 8:54:37 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Just another "typical white person" who is sure Obama does not want his vote)
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To: Alouette

STUPID REPORTER ALERT


11 posted on 04/03/2008 8:59:51 AM PDT by CarryaBigStick
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To: Alouette
Few seem to recognize that American ignorance of Islam and Muslims has been the fatal flaw.

Well, very true. Ignorance of our enemies needs to be corrected. But we won't do that by listening to enemy propaganda, like this.

How about studying history, for instance? Not just the crusades, although that would be good, but the whole history of Muslim conquests around the world for more than a thousand years.

And how about studying the real history of slavery in the post-classical world? Who were the principle slavers during that time?

And how about studying the life of Mohammed. What kind of guy was he, anyway? If we want to understand Muslims, we need to study Mohammed, who is their chief role model. Are Muslims who want to kill, rape, enslave, and dominate their enemies violating the example of Mohammed, or are they imitating him?

Should we respect Muslims? Should we tolerate their customs? Well, do they respect and tolerate our customs? Do they allow freedom and equality of religion in their countries?

12 posted on 04/03/2008 9:02:51 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Alouette
How much do Americans know about the views and beliefs of Muslims around the world?

Plenty. And we don't like any of it. Next question.

13 posted on 04/03/2008 9:12:00 AM PDT by LiberConservative (Part of the "Vast Typical White Guy Conspiracy")
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To: Paladin2

Denouncing Jihad is apostasy, it is a core precept of Islam.

(Violent) Jihad must be conducted until all people of the world are converted, subjugated, or dead.


14 posted on 04/03/2008 9:14:12 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Alouette
How much do Americans know about the views and beliefs of Muslims around the world?

Enough to know that we must seek out and get rid of the Islamic facists wherever they are.

15 posted on 04/03/2008 9:25:38 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Alouette
How much do Americans know about the views and beliefs of Muslims around the world?

This is ALL I need to know. PERIOD


16 posted on 04/03/2008 9:29:14 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Alouette
Islamophobia does cause terrorism.

Islamophobia=Rejection of submitting to Islam.

If everyone would just shut up and submit, there won't be any terror.

Except between Islamic sects, of course.

17 posted on 04/03/2008 9:33:16 AM PDT by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: Alouette
The problem is Americans know very well what Islam represents and the means it advocates to achieve its goals of global domination and either reducing non-Muslims to dhmmi status or killing then all off. Yes, we are afraid of Islam and have every right to fight it to prevent it from depriving us of our God-given freedoms.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

18 posted on 04/03/2008 9:42:30 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Alouette

19 posted on 04/03/2008 9:54:03 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Alouette

Don’t scare the public about the threat of Islamic tyranny or else they will kill you!


20 posted on 04/03/2008 10:42:27 AM PDT by weegee (Famous moments in history: March 18th, 2008 “I have a bridge (to sell you)...” - Barack H. Oba)
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To: Alouette
How much do Americans know about the views and beliefs of Muslims around the world?

Enough to know that Al Reuters and other wire services lumped all muslims together when it came to telling us that Islam has more followers than Catholicism.

We are told that the radical antisemite terrorists are a minority representation of the "false" muslims. But they were included in the world count of all muslims. So how different are they?

21 posted on 04/03/2008 10:45:09 AM PDT by weegee (Famous moments in history: March 18th, 2008 “I have a bridge (to sell you)...” - Barack H. Oba)
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To: magslinger
Islamophobia does cause terrorism. Islamophobia=Rejection of submitting to Islam.

Since a phobia is an unreasoned fear or panic disorder involving an unnatural or illogical functioning of the brain, the term Islamophobia is both inaccurate and misleading. Some people do indeed suffer phobias, demostrated as excessive fear of spiders, snakes, dogs of a particular colour, or many other possible fixations, even when no presence or threat from such objects is imminent or possible. There is little evidence of any widespread exhibition to the presence of old women entering a passenger airliner and shouting Allah Akbar! or simultaneously bowing toward Mecca, suddenly praying in a foreign language, or lighting fuses extending from their bootheels. Similarly there's been no widespread panic involving busty Nordic foreign students, or middle-aged Japanese businessmen- though some international air travelling orientals did indeed face closer scrutiny after three of their Japanese Red Army countrymen shot up Tel Aviv's Lod airport in 1972.

It's only after groups of muslums of mostly Middle-Eastern descent or appearance were involved in several incidents in which passenger aircraft were hijacked or destroyed that such concerns were evidenced, replacing concerns of earlier air passengers of several decades previously that they their flights to their destinations might be delayed by an unscheduled stop in Havana.

No, concern about islumist and muslum people and their characteristic disrespect for human life, to include the taking of their own to accomplish the deaths of others as a religious act that offers entry to a future paradise is more accurately described as Islamomisophia, though there's room to consider such details as spelling and wheether it deserves upper-case capitalization. Derived again from the description of the particular recipients of that sentiment, plus the more accurate word derived from the Greek -misos from which we have the words misanthrope for one who dislikes or distrusts humanity, or misogynist for one whose disdain is for one of a different sex, one who is Islamomisophic shows contempt for or disdain for those if islumic appearance or activity, whether deservedly or not.

But to be so accurate would remove the negative connotation from the term, smearing the accused with a mental disorder, and would be less politically useful. Which is why the terrorist murdererrs and their supporters refer to their enemise as Islamophobics in public- and, in private, by other, darker terms.

22 posted on 04/04/2008 10:24:37 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: archy
You make some good points. I like the term Islamomisophist and will probably use it in the future. It better describes my reaction to Islam. Not fear so much as the gag reflex.

None of that changes the fact that Muslims and Dhimmis will continue to call us what they will. I want to make it clear what they mean when they say Islamophobia: rejection of Islam and it adherents. They want want everyone either subjugated or dead. Say it clear and loud.

23 posted on 04/04/2008 11:04:59 AM PDT by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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