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Local Company to Leave Berkeley Due to Protests
DailyCal.org ^ | April 3, 2008 | Jessica Kwong

Posted on 04/03/2008 5:07:23 PM PDT by PROCON

A software company in Downtown Berkeley has announced it will be relocating outside of the city, citing what they claim is a "non-response" to crime by Berkeley police officers, who are forced instead to deal with protests at the Marine recruiting center.

Avontus Software, which has been based in Berkeley for more than a year, is one of many businesses affected by anti-war protests surrounding the recruiting center.

The city's decision to support Code Pink and other anti-war groups protesting the center by granting noise and parking permits has been detrimental to the business climate, according to Brian Webb, Avontus Software chief executive officer.

"All they're doing is giving our city negative press-they're removing our businesses," Webb said. "I actually have had to remove our address from our Web site because we received negative feedback from our customers about being here."

Webb's complaint is one of many the city has received about demonstrations disrupting business Downtown.

"There definitely are a lot of businesses, particularly in that area, that are concerned with the noise," said Dave Fogarty, the economic development coordinator with the city. "Customers are being driven away because of the lack of parking and the difficulty of getting to the businesses."

But Webb said it was not the noise but the high crime rate that prompted his decision to relocate.

Berkeley police Sgt. Mary Kusmiss acknowledged that the increased manpower at the protests has sometimes taken away from other police roles.

"Property crimes have been historically our greatest challenge," Kusmiss said. "There have been days when the protests and demonstrations have had an impact on our ability to provide services to the community."

In 2007, Berkeley experienced 7,279 property crimes, a figure that has been consistent through the years, she said.

Webb said he thinks the council is misdirecting police and city funds.

"I actually agree with City Council-I think the war is bad, but the way they're dealing with it is not the proper way," he said. "They're not focusing on crime, they're focusing on anti-war issues."

But city officials say police resources have not been concentrated improperly.

"(Police) involved in the Marine recruiting center demonstrations are overtime, it's not the regular crew," said Councilmember Dona Spring, who represents the Downtown area.

While businesses across the nation are suffering from an economic slump, Webb said he believes Berkeley's anti-war stance has been an added negative.

"We're probably more hit more economically because of the construction downturn, but we have lost customers because they don't want to do business in Berkeley," Webb said.

But Chamber of Commerce CEO Ted Garrett said he is not worried that more businesses will move because of Berkeley's relationship with the center.

"Quite honestly, I would question the sensibility of any businessperson for moving because of City Council actions," he said. "Business decisions generally are not made on a political basis."

Avontus Software, which anticipates moving in the next several months, is the first business to leave Berkeley for reasons relating to the center, according to Spring.

"I'm sorry to hear they're leaving, but I think it's inevitable given the conflict that is happening with the Marine recruiting center," Spring said. "... I don't see how the businesses in that square can sustain the kind of controversy that the Marine recruiting center has had on that locale."


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"I actually have had to remove our address from our Web site because we received negative feedback from our customers about being here.

Hope others will follow!

1 posted on 04/03/2008 5:07:23 PM PDT by PROCON
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To: PROCON

Sad. F****** sad.


2 posted on 04/03/2008 5:14:30 PM PDT by jdm (Sign you've got a crappy job: your boss asks if you're on MySpace and if you'll add him as a friend.)
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To: PROCON; Drango; Syncro; kristinn; tgslTakoma; Jim Robinson; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; ...

Ping


3 posted on 04/03/2008 5:14:45 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: PROCON

Die, Berkeley, die.

Hey criminals, there’s a golden opportunity in Berkeley!


4 posted on 04/03/2008 5:16:25 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: PROCON

Boycotts do not work! /s


5 posted on 04/03/2008 5:17:09 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: PROCON
"(Police) involved in the Marine recruiting center demonstrations are overtime, it's not the regular crew," said Councilmember Dona Spring, who represents the Downtown area.

Oh, I see then Ms. Spring. It's not because they're busy elsewhere, it's because they're incompetent then. Say, Councilmember Spring, aren't you responsible for their performance? Don't you oversee the quality of services your taxpayers are forced to support?

6 posted on 04/03/2008 5:18:15 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: Monkey Face; Billg64; CDB; Battle Axe; Poetgal26; MountainFlower; SmithL; Faith; GVnana; ...
BOYCOTT BERKELEY PING LIST

Please FReep mail me to be added or removed from this *PING* list.

7 posted on 04/03/2008 5:20:38 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: PROCON
"Hope others will follow"

I don't. I hope they remain and fail. And I'm disappointed the leftist money launders at Avontus Software didn't stay on principle, business concerns be damned.


8 posted on 04/03/2008 5:21:53 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: PROCON

I was in downtown Berkeley last night. There were agressive-looking dirtballs everywhere. I was relieved to get back to San Francisco.


9 posted on 04/03/2008 5:25:33 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: PROCON

>Spring said. “... I don’t see how the businesses in that square can sustain the kind of controversy that the Marine recruiting center has had on that locale.”

Whoa! Wait a minute! The controversy is being cause by Code Pink, not the Marine Recruiting Center.


10 posted on 04/03/2008 5:28:10 PM PDT by George - the Other ("Saints should always be judged guilty until they are proved innocent" - G. Orwell)
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To: PROCON; freema
Spring said. "... I don't see how the businesses in that square can sustain the kind of controversy that the Marine recruiting center has had on that locale."

She's a complete idiot! It's not the Marines, it's code pinkos and protesters that are making the downtown uninhabitable.

11 posted on 04/03/2008 5:28:10 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Here are some other Berkeley firms…most of them are not on the Chamber of Commerce list. Email or call them. Be polite, but ask them to move out of Berkeley.

http://www.backroads.com/contact/
www.cactusjungle.com
www.stevengrover.com
www.elsarch.com
http://www.pgw.com/home/contacts.aspx
http://www.truittandwhite.com/
www.kagi.com
www.polymertech.com
www.ihomefinder.com
www.xoma.com (800) BIO-XOMA
www.neurofocus.com/
www.mog.com
www.techsafety.com 800-877-7742
www.libbylabs.com
www.bearinc.com
www.quantal.com


12 posted on 04/03/2008 5:28:41 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

Will do.


13 posted on 04/03/2008 5:29:55 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: PROCON

hehehehehehe -— thee more the merrier!


14 posted on 04/03/2008 5:33:06 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: PROCON

Better for all concened that Avontus leaves.


15 posted on 04/03/2008 5:41:47 PM PDT by GVnana ("They're still analyzing the first guy. What do I have to worry about?" - GWB)
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To: jazusamo

She’s not responsible, jaz. Come on, now. Geez. /sarc


16 posted on 04/03/2008 5:41:48 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: freema
Property crimes have been historically our greatest challenge," Kusmiss said. "There have been days when the protests and demonstrations have had an impact on our ability to provide services to the community."

Maybe the City Council and the Chamber of Commerce need a new road sign to a better future in Berkeley.


17 posted on 04/03/2008 5:42:34 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: PROCON
"Quite honestly, I would question the sensibility of any businessperson for moving because of City Council actions," he said. "Business decisions generally are not made on a political basis."

This loon is going to find out real fast exactly how wrong he is.

18 posted on 04/03/2008 5:47:08 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; All

http://www.nolo.com/support/contact.cfm (800) 728-3555
Call ‘em and ask ‘em to leave!


19 posted on 04/03/2008 5:49:16 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

Bad Idea in my opinion!

Let them suffer until they finally understand the effect of negative publicity...


20 posted on 04/03/2008 5:52:39 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Arrogance IS my virtue!)
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To: Girlene

Code Pink thinks April Fool’s is fun. I do too! How about an April Fool’s joke where detour signs are put at every entrance to Berkeley, or For Sale signs put in lots of yards.


21 posted on 04/03/2008 5:52:45 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: freema

LOL, freema. Those are good “pranks”. Maybe even some “Do not Enter” signs leading into Berkeley?


22 posted on 04/03/2008 6:15:38 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Drango
Thanks for the ping.

BOYCOTT BERKELEY.

BOYCOTT BERKELEY.

BOYCOTT BERKELEY.

BOYCOTT BERKELEY.

23 posted on 04/03/2008 6:39:18 PM PDT by GOPJ (Dem Power is the back room deal. Dem Voters are phony baloney window dressing.)
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To: rogue yam
I was relieved to get back to San Francisco.

Haven't been in Berserkely since the '80s. The dirty ugly San Franfrisky I saw in the 90s doesn't encourage me either -- and you say today the latter is better than the former.

Well... maybe Berserkely is a good place for our seminary after all...

24 posted on 04/03/2008 6:45:17 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: PROCON
Spring said. "... I don't see how the businesses in that square can sustain the kind of controversy that the Marine recruiting center has had on that locale."

I expect that the Marine recruiting center was there for quite a while without ever causing any problems for the local businesses. The problems came from the actions of the City Council and Code Pink. Any business owner with half a brain will know that.

25 posted on 04/03/2008 6:56:51 PM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: Drango

bump


26 posted on 04/03/2008 7:39:28 PM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty.)
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To: Drango

I have NO sympathy for Berkeley, especially today. Our city has just lost one of its finest citizens. He was a very brave USMC Major who died from a roadside bomb while serving our country in al-Anbar province. He leaves behind his wife and four children. God’s rest Major.


27 posted on 04/03/2008 7:39:35 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Fight to Win.)
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To: PROCON
"(Police) involved in the Marine recruiting center demonstrations are overtime, it's not the regular crew," said Councilmember Dona Spring, who represents the Downtown area.

Oh no, we hire a separate goon squad for that...

28 posted on 04/03/2008 7:40:23 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: PROCON; Drango; USMC Brat; SmithL; Saoirise; Syncro; ProtestShooter

The businesses go marching out of Berkeley, hoorah, hoorah
The businesses go marching out of Berkeley, hoorah, hoorah...:)


29 posted on 04/03/2008 7:44:19 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Fight to Win.)
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To: 444Flyer

“Lets give Code Pink a kick in the A$$, hoorah, hoorah”


30 posted on 04/03/2008 7:46:35 PM PDT by PROCON (Happy Anniversary Luv W & Mr. Luv!!)
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To: Drango

Thank you for the ping.


31 posted on 04/03/2008 7:57:41 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: PROCON
"I'm sorry to hear they're leaving, but I think it's inevitable given the conflict that is happening with the Marine recruiting center," Spring said. "... I don't see how the businesses in that square can sustain the kind of controversy that the Marine recruiting center has had on that locale."

Boy, those innocent Berkeley angels been terrorized by those dastardly, mean and ruthless Marine recruiting center. Can you imagine that!...the terror, angst, sleepless nights, nightmares. "The MARINES" are recruiting in YOUR town.

32 posted on 04/03/2008 8:34:10 PM PDT by danmar (Tomorrow's life is too late. Live today!)
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To: danmar
"The MARINES" are recruiting in YOUR town.

Yes!

The Horror of it all/sob

33 posted on 04/03/2008 8:42:21 PM PDT by PROCON (Happy Anniversary LUV W & Mr. LUV!!)
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To: Drango

Thanks for the ping!


34 posted on 04/03/2008 10:10:53 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: George; jazusamo; Drango; 444Flyer
Drango, post 7 > Thanks for the Ping
444Flyer, post 29 > Thanks for the Ping

Spring said. “... I don’t see how the businesses in that square can sustain the kind of controversy that the Marine recruiting center has had on that locale.”

"Whoa! Wait a minute! The controversy is being cause by Code Pink, not the Marine Recruiting Center." - George, post 10

"She's a complete idiot! It's not the Marines, it's code pinkos and protesters that are making the downtown uninhabitable." - jazusamo, post 11

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Spot ON! It's Code Pink, at the invitation and "applause" of the City Council who brought all the controversy. They are both to blame... and NOT the Marines.

USMC DevilDog-2
Boycott Berkeley-3

35 posted on 04/03/2008 11:03:31 PM PDT by USMC Brat (Set the example.)
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To: 3niner
"I expect that the Marine recruiting center was there for quite a while without ever causing any problems for the local businesses. The problems came from the actions of the City Council and Code Pink. Any business owner with half a brain will know that."

The Marine OSO opened in Jan 2007, and it wasn't until Sept that Code Pink exclaimed "they suddenly showed up." Code Pink ran 2 or 3 "organizing meeting" announcements in the local paper and they began weekly protests in Oct.

So, Yes, the Marine Office was established for 9-months before Pinkos discovered it. They definitely aren't familiar with downtown Berkeley if it took them 3/4 of a year to notice a Marine Office there.

36 posted on 04/03/2008 11:20:07 PM PDT by USMC Brat (Set the example.)
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To: 444Flyer
I have NO sympathy for Berkeley, especially today. Our city has just lost one of its finest citizens. He was a very brave USMC Major who died from a roadside bomb while serving our country in al-Anbar province. He leaves behind his wife and four children. God’s rest Major.

My sincerest condolances to the Major's family...

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37 posted on 04/03/2008 11:24:43 PM PDT by USMC Brat (Set the example.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
I just looked at Avontus Software's website and it appears that they primarily deal with construction firms. The software they produce helps construction workers determine what type of scaffolding, formwork, and shoring up they will have to do to complete a job.

Unfortunately, I'm not in the construction business, otherwise I'd make a small purchase just to show my support for their wise decision.

38 posted on 04/03/2008 11:46:51 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory. - George Patton)
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To: 444Flyer; Drango; ProtestShooter; SmithL
Businesses for Peace May Counter Boycott
By Judith Scherr 2008-04-01

Once again the anti-war Code Pink ladies are squaring off with pro-war Eagles Up. This time it’s not dueling demos at the Marine Recruiting Center.

It’s contradictory calls to go shopping.

Eagles Up and Move America Forward folk want their allies to shop outside Berkeley until the City Council apologizes to the Marines for its opposition to military recruitment in Berkeley.

Not to be outdone by the (mostly) leather-clad, Harley-riding Eagles Up crowd that has held demonstrations in Berkeley three times, Code Pink is promoting Berkeley businesses under the moniker “Businesses for Peace.”

The organization’s kickoff is noon on Thursday at Anna’s Jazz Island, 2120 Allston Way, and so far it has 30 local tax-paying businesses signed up.

/excerpt/

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They're calling this a "bUycott" complete with store-window decals... probably cotton-candy PINK ones. (eeeesh... I can't even wear pink anymore. I gave everything pink to a local charity.)

Businesses that have signed up with “Businesses for Peace” are posted at their webpage, aparently hosted by Code Pink.

39 posted on 04/04/2008 12:49:43 AM PDT by USMC Brat (Set the example.)
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To: USMC Brat

http://www.businessesforpeace.org

* Anna’s Jazz Island, Anna De Leon
* American Acupuncture Center, Amy Lee
* Berkeley Mills, Gene Agress
* Boss, Boona Cheema
* Bridget Scadeng Massage & Pernatal Education
* Cafe del la Paz, Russell Bass
* Cafe Gratitude, Chandra Gilbert
* Cal Copy
* Chakra [Voyant] Productions, Bonniee Mookherjee
* Collectors Realm3
* Eclair Bakery, Mike Yi
* Eudemonia, Dean Koa
* Fertile Grounds Cafe, Ayman Morrar
* Frank’s Tailoring, Frank
* Global Exchange Fair Trade Store, Carolyn Gravely
* Guerilla Cafe, Andrea Ali
* Its Her Business: Antiques and Koolectibles
* John Northmore Roberts & Associates, John N. Roberts
* La Pena Cultural Center, Paul Chin
* Lhasa Salon
* Meola Investigations, Robert Meola
* Michael Alef Association, Michael Alef
* Moran Engineering, Inc., Everett Moran
* Mudrakers Cafe, Hatem Bazian
* Nabalom Bakery, Bruce Russell
* Paper Crane Music, Betsy Rose
* Seventh Heaven Yoga Studio, Jodie Evans
* Sharon Adams Law Office, Sharon Adams
* Single Source Telecom, Elyce Judith
* Skills DJ Workshop
* Slidewerks, Ivan Amodt
* The Juice Bar Collective
* The Tree House, Maureen
* UniTech Electronics


40 posted on 04/04/2008 1:46:50 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Girlene; Spacetrucker; Syncro; RaceBannon

Tonight, midnight. I’ll get the truck. Let’s “synchronize” our watches. We’ll meet on Bancroft Way.

; )


41 posted on 04/04/2008 2:24:38 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: freema

Berkeley Mills
http://www.berkeleymills.com/Contact.aspx

877.426.4557 ph


42 posted on 04/04/2008 2:55:33 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

BTTT


43 posted on 04/04/2008 3:01:10 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Drango

BTTT


44 posted on 04/04/2008 3:01:28 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Drango

We’ll pick you up in Durango, Drango ; )


45 posted on 04/04/2008 3:03:29 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: Drango

We’ll pick you up in Durango, Drango ; )


46 posted on 04/04/2008 3:04:24 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: Stonewall Jackson
Great idea to support them when they leave!
47 posted on 04/04/2008 5:10:38 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: Drango

marine recruiting stations are controversial?

What a crock!

This is so very sad that Americans are acting like this. They should be shipped to China, frankly.


48 posted on 04/04/2008 6:31:04 AM PDT by what_not2007
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To: PROCON
"I actually agree with City Council-I think the war is bad, but the way they're dealing with it is not the proper way,"

So this company is merely acting like a mugged liberal.

49 posted on 04/04/2008 6:34:06 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: I see my hands

Yeah, I’m with you. Leftists should have to suffer the consequences of the ideology that they support.

At least the negative attention actually HURT these folks. The city council is rather insulated from actual pain (incentive) to change their ways.

Usually, leftists’ temper tantrums are, to them, more important than any other issue, such as national security.

I have a 3 year old, so it helps me understand leftists.


50 posted on 04/04/2008 6:36:07 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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