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The Left's Good Warriors
The American Spectator ^ | 4/4/2008 | Daniel J. Flynn

Posted on 04/04/2008 1:47:47 AM PDT by Dawnsblood

Who says San Francisco doesn't honor veterans?

Last weekend, the city, which voted in 2005 to ban military recruiters from public high schools and colleges, unveiled a memorial to fighting men and women in uniform. The uniforms they donned, however, were not those familiar to American soldiers, sailors, airmen, or Marines.

The city honored American Communists and their fellow travelers who fought in the Spanish Civil War of the late 1930s. The $400,000 monument, donated from private funds but hosted on public land, extends 40-feet long and eight feet high.

Media accounts of the tribute uniformly noted that members of what has become known as the Abraham Lincoln Brigade fought against Francisco Franco. But those reports were conspicuously silent about the man they fought for: Joseph Stalin. Similarly absent was the word "Communist," a party with which roughly eighty percent of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade were officially affiliated.

The few surviving veterans are quick to point out that they fought fascists, but "fascist" in the Communist lexicon of the 1930s was applied to everyone from Franklin Roosevelt to Leon Trotsky to Francisco Franco. Stalin saw enemies everywhere, so many American members of the International Brigades in Spain partook in, and others fell victim to, purges of suspected deviationists among the "republican" armies.

ONE ORGANIZER called San Francisco's monument "an antidote to amnesia," but a more apt description would be "a product of amnesia." Communists who shamed themselves by serving Stalin have time on their side. Short memories, particularly on a subject as seemingly distant as Communism, enable the servants of an evil cause to reinvent themselves as history's heroes rather than its villains.

(Excerpt) Read more at theamericanprowler.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: communist; franciscofranco; josephstalin; sanfran; tas; theleft; traitors
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Much more at the link. Can you believe that some think the left doesn't like veterans? Ohhh they just don't like the ones that fight for us...
1 posted on 04/04/2008 1:47:47 AM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: Dawnsblood

I’m still waiting for “The Big One” (9.0 Richter) that separates San Fran from the mainland and sinks it into the ocean.


2 posted on 04/04/2008 2:06:23 AM PDT by westmichman ( God said: "They cry 'peace! peace!' but there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14)
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To: westmichman

Funny I keep hoping for the 10.5 that provides me a glass bottom boat tour business from Rodeo Dr to the space needle.


3 posted on 04/04/2008 2:16:50 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (")
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To: westmichman
I’m still waiting for “The Big One” (9.0 Richter) that separates San Fran from the mainland and sinks it into the ocean.

You mean the one where everything east of Oakland sinks into the Atlantic?

4 posted on 04/04/2008 2:19:37 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: N. Theknow

Sounds like you may be living on the dark side.


5 posted on 04/04/2008 2:24:13 AM PDT by westmichman ( God said: "They cry 'peace! peace!' but there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14)
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To: Dawnsblood

> The few surviving veterans are quick to point out that they fought fascists, but “fascist” in the Communist lexicon of the 1930s was applied to everyone from Franklin Roosevelt to Leon Trotsky to Francisco Franco.

Francisco Franco’s allies were Hitler and Mussolini. In my books, the Communists in Spain were on the right side for a change.


6 posted on 04/04/2008 2:31:52 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Dawnsblood

I am newly convinced once more that when Almighty God decides that America needs an enema, that the nozzle will be inserted in San Francrisco.

For the West Coast anyway, although Seattle is also a contender.


7 posted on 04/04/2008 2:55:33 AM PDT by mkjessup (This year's presidential choices: "Speak No Evil, See No Evil, and Evil")
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Francisco Franco’s allies were Hitler and Mussolini. In my books, the Communists in Spain were on the right side for a change.

I'll bet you miss ol' Uncle Joe don't ya?
8 posted on 04/04/2008 2:56:55 AM PDT by mkjessup (This year's presidential choices: "Speak No Evil, See No Evil, and Evil")
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Francisco Franco’s allies were Hitler and Mussolini. In my books, the Communists in Spain were on the right side for a change.

And then Molotov and von Ribbentrop had a little meeting, and poof! the useful idiots were on Hitler's side after all.

-ccm

9 posted on 04/04/2008 2:57:26 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: mkjessup

> I’ll bet you miss ol’ Uncle Joe don’t ya?

What a stupid thing to say.


10 posted on 04/04/2008 3:12:14 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: ccmay

> And then Molotov and von Ribbentrop had a little meeting, and poof! the useful idiots were on Hitler’s side after all.

Those were strange times for certain. Let’s hope that China and Islam don’t go the same way else the West is in real trouble.


11 posted on 04/04/2008 3:13:32 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Dawnsblood
If you haven't read Orwell's Homage to Catalonia, I recommend it highly. It's quite instructive as to the political infighting and nasty purges that took place on the "Republican" side. They quickly became pure Stalinists.
12 posted on 04/04/2008 3:15:46 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (<===Typical White American)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Neither were. There were a few “good guys” on the side of the Republicans, and they got purged out by the Stalinists. See my previous.


13 posted on 04/04/2008 3:17:13 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (<===Typical White American)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
In my books, the Communists in Spain were on the right side for a change.

I used to argue the nacionales side with hippies in Torremolinos bars when Franco was still around. Wise choice in those days.

My point was always that Nazi and Fascist support of the Nationalists had been over-emphasized by history. The Nationalists had the backing other other countries as well as the Catholic Church. With the support of the Pope, the conservative Nationalists represented the popular will among the Spanish people. The Loyalists, on the other hand, imported anarchists worldwide.

Put that in your sangria. :-)
14 posted on 04/04/2008 3:27:43 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
I’ll bet you miss ol’ Uncle Joe don’t ya?
What a stupid thing to say.


Saying the Communists were on the right side of anything is the height of stupidity.

Look in the mirror, clown.
15 posted on 04/04/2008 3:27:50 AM PDT by mkjessup (This year's presidential choices: "Speak No Evil, See No Evil, and Evil")
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To: mkjessup

> Saying the Communists were on the right side of anything is the height of stupidity.

That’s an even stupider thing to say.

There were a fair few communists fighting on the side of the Free French. There were even more fighting with Tito against the Nazis. Were they on the wrong side?

And why was it that the US sent untold bucketloads of weaponry to prop up Stalin against Hitler? Was the US supporting the wrong side?

> Look in the mirror, clown.

You first, Bozo.


16 posted on 04/04/2008 3:34:53 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Thrownatbirth

> My point was always that Nazi and Fascist support of the Nationalists had been over-emphasized by history.

How so? Hitler got to road-test his war methodologies like blitzkrieg during the Spanish Civil war (he wasn’t even supposed to have war making capability at the time!) and the Luftwaffe was able to road-test their Stuka dive-bombing skills against relatively-benign targets. All of this was to stand the Nazis in good stead in 1939, 1940 and 1941 — the years that America played hooky from WW-II.

Franco and his tin-pot Fascist dictatorship was the sidebar to the main event, which was the build-up of the military capabilities of Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy and the conquest of Europe. The West could have kiboshed that in Spain.

It’s fine for Americans to blame Chamberlain for Hitler being able to make the gains he did thru British indecisiveness and appeasement. Fair enough: Chamberlain deserved a fair bit of criticism for that.

That said, it’s not like America did anything to stop Hitler during that time. Only a few communist volunteers saw the threat for what it was.


17 posted on 04/04/2008 3:45:19 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter; All

Well, looks like we’ve got a live one here.

You fail to understand that Communists in the 20’s and 30’s were nothing more than sockpuppets of their ideological masters in Moscow, i.e., Lenin and Stalin. If they were ‘aligned’ with the Free French, it was pure opportunism and you ought to know that. As for Tito, he was a Communist first, his alleged ‘independence’ from Moscow not withstanding.

The Communists you cite were ALL on the wrong side, because at their core they were on STALIN’s side, and that IS the wrong side if you’ll give your head a shake and wake up those slumbering neurons up there.

As for the U.S. supporting Stalin against Hitler? You better damn well believe that was a mistake, we should have hung Stalin out to dry because the historical record demonstrates that Stalin was in fact even more of a genocidal murderer than Hitler was, something that doesn’t get talked about very much. The fact is, Hitler screwed up after launching Operation Barbarossa by not treating the Soviet civilians with even a minimum of respect, because many Russians welcomed the invading German troops as liberators, not as conquerers. Naturally, once the Nazis started butchering them they rallied to Uncle Joe and ‘Mother Russia’ and the rest is history. The reason the U.S. opened the floodgates of lend lease to the Soviet Union was because FDR’s administration was shot through with Communists, and his own Vice President (Henry Wallace) was the epitome of a ‘useful idiot’ (as Communists define the term), thank God that f’in goofball got dropped from the ticket in ‘44.

What you need pal, is to refresh yourself with the history of Communism, which ranks right up there with Islamofascism as the deadliest man-made political virus ever unleashed upon the Earth.

The only good Communist is a dead Communist. Learn it. Know it. Don’t forget it.


18 posted on 04/04/2008 3:49:34 AM PDT by mkjessup (This year's presidential choices: "Speak No Evil, See No Evil, and Evil")
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Only a few communist volunteers saw the threat for what it was.

Did you actually contribute to the statue in honor of these Bolshevik canaries-in-a-coalmine?
19 posted on 04/04/2008 3:56:31 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Thrownatbirth

Doubtful, our friend is in New Zealand, not in the Peoples Republic Enclave of San Francrisco.


20 posted on 04/04/2008 3:59:34 AM PDT by mkjessup (This year's presidential choices: "Speak No Evil, See No Evil, and Evil")
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