Ron Paul has rejected Constitution Party overtures for third party run

Modern Conservative ^ | Christopher Cook

[connell]

Back in December, we ran the story Ron Paul to make third party run on Constitution Party ticket.

The information we had was from a reliable source. His contact accurately reported what he had been asked by the Constitution Party. However, he left out a vital detail: Had Ron Paul already agreed to run on the Constitution Party ticket, or was he merely being courted? Did our source's contact get approached by the Constitution Party as a part of the Constitution Party laying the groundwork, in case Paul agreed, or did Paul and the Party have some sort of agreement that then changed.

We do not know the answer to that. However, our source has gotten back to us with an update from that same contact. Our source had dinner with him recently, and our source told us...

"I asked [the contact] how that was coming along and he told me that Rep. Paul has turned down the offer, and that [the contact] was no longer interested in seeing what happened in '92 (Perot) happen again this year and give the Dem the White House."

So, either

a) Ron Paul and the Constitution Party had an agreement that changed, or...

[JerseyDvl]

This is a first for me: Thank you Dr. Paul!

[Moonman62]

Ron Paul is kooky, but he’s not as crazy as supposed. Now we have to wonder about freaks like Bob Barr. Speaking of that, what’s Alan Keyes up to?

[wideawake]

Translation: The Constitution Party offered Paul the nomination in exchange for a certain amount of the campaign cash Paul has stockpiled from his GOP nomination run, and Paul decided the asking price of the CP nomination was too high.

[CJ Wolf]

Let freedom Ping!

[deport]

Not to worry as when they have exhausted all their other options there is the 'perpetual candidate' standing by waiting for the call to step in and lose again.

[snarkpup]

Ron Paul has rejected Constitution Party overtures for third party run

He's waiting for an Articles of Confederation Party.

[mnehrling]

Anything to do with Alan Keyes courting the Constitution Party?

[mnehrling]

The Constitution Party wasn't in the Constitution so he doesn't believe it exists.

[jmc813]

Now we have to wonder about freaks like Bob Barr.

I really hope Barr runs. Dude's got my vote.

[jmc813]

Translation: The Constitution Party offered Paul the nomination in exchange for a certain amount of the campaign cash Paul has stockpiled from his GOP nomination run, and Paul decided the asking price of the CP nomination was too high.

Tin foil much?

[neutronsgalore]

“Anything to do with Alan Keyes courting the Constitution Party?”

Alan Keyes and the Constitution Party makes more sense than Ron Paul and the Constitution Party. Ron is more of a Libertarian.

[Moonman62]

Let’s see. He can’t hold on to his congressional seat, and now he thinks he can be president. Nuts.

[mnehrling]

Except, after the scandal in 88, I am sure the LP party bosses want nothing to do with RP or any of his buddies from the time.

[xzins]

Ron Paul is not the kind of name that the CP needs to be relevant.

They need someone very famous or very rich....and either must be very well liked and very respected.

I’d suggest an Ollie North, a Norman Schwarzkopf, a Jim Dobson, a Phil Anschutz (rich enough to quickly buy name recognition).

[The Bat Lady]

He can’t hold on to his congressional seat, and now he thinks he can be president.

I don't know why you would say he can't hold onto his Cong. seat, he won by 70% and doesn't have an opponent in Nov. so I would say he won his cong. seat by 70%.

[tabsternager]

“Ron Paul is kooky, but he’s not as crazy as supposed.”

According to the former head of the bin Laden unit, Ron Paul’s the only candidate who’s got it right on the WOT as far as the reason we’re being attacked and our foreign entanglements.

All the others, it seems, try to sell the idea that muslim radicals woke up one day and decided to kill Americans (and themselves in the process) simply because they hate our freedom and way of life.

Paul is also the only one who actually wants to dismantle government departments like the Dept. of Ed, not just “slow the growth.”

I just wish conservatives will wake up and stop voting for the “lesser of two evils” because all does is give power to the Rockefeller wing of the party who love big government as much as the Democrats do.

[wideawake]

Tin foil much?

A deeply ironic comment.

Fact: you need money to run a campaign and to pay CP staffers.

Fact: Ron Paul has at least $12MM in the kitty.

When Ron Paul's people and the CP people sit down, what are they talking about?

They already have a broad agreement ideologically, so it's a matter of brass tacks.

The CP have a nomination to offer, but they have overhead to pay for.

Ron Paul has a fat campaign account but no shot at the GOP nomination.

At that point it becomes a negotiation.

[Impeach the Boy]

I had some hope for the Constitution Party, but if they would consider this SPACE CADET, they are just as looney as the Libertarian Party.

[mnehrling]

I think she was talking about Bob Barr

[Mr. Silverback]

Pocketa-pocketa-pocketa.

[ovrtaxt]

What are you talking about? He stomped that guy.

[Designer]

"Translation:...Paul decided the asking price of the CP nomination was too high."

How wonderful to have a translator here who can see through all the smoke and mirrors to give us the straight story.

Or not.

And to think; I simply assumed it was just Ron Paul keeping his word!

[Mr. Silverback]

All you have to do to believe the stuff in your post is ignore everything we know about the Islamic religion and radical Islamists in particular, everything we know about basic strategy (the Islamists are trying to take out the biggest target and leader first) and the fact that every conservative in the country could undergo brain scrambling by aliens and vote for Paul and he would still lose in a 50 state landslide because of the nutbars who orbit him wearing truther T-shirts and swastikas.

Oh, and you also have to ignore everything bin Laden and his flunkies have said about there goals other than "we attacked you because you were in Saudi Arabia." Just ignore all the stuff about Islam running the entire planet, etc. Other than that, you're right on target.

[Mr. Silverback]

And to think; I simply assumed it was just Ron Paul keeping his word!

I'm no Ron Paul fan, but I also see no reason to assume he was breaking his promise. Of course the CP is going to try to get him, he'd be the closest thing to a viable candidate they'd ever fielded. Heck, he'd be the first one people had actually heard of.

[MrB]

He’s a bit nutty, but here’s the lemonade that I’d like to see come out of our current pile of lemons.

“We” have nominated a leftist/liberal for the GOP nominee.
The dhimmirat party is on the verge of a huge fracture.

The lemonade would be that the dhimmirats fracture and go the way of the Whigs, the GOP becomes the “liberal” party, and some other party steps up and right flanks them as the “second” party.

[Marathoner]

I just wish conservatives will wake up and stop voting for the “lesser of two evils” because all does is give power to the Rockefeller wing of the party who love big government as much as the Democrats do.

Can't really argue, especially this year when our choice is between a liberal, a Marxist and a Stalinist.

[mysterio]

Paul supporters have been telling Paul detractors this the entire race. I wonder if the usual suspects will come to this thread to admit they were wrong.

[BlackElk]

If our nation and our movement were so foolish and antiAmerican as to adopt paleoPaulie's Paulistinian foreign policy nonsense, that right to vote will recede quickly in the rear view mirror as we teach our children Arabic to memorize the Koran to kneel before our new towel head "masters."

Ignorance can be the end of the conservative movement and will be if you think national defense is an earmark of Rockefeller Republicanism. I was a state chairman for Reagan's 1976 challenge to Ford. Ronald Reagan and a manly foreign and military policy is the antidote to GOP liberalism. Ron El Run Paul and the politics of being too cheap or too cowardly to defend ourselves and our civilization is not that antidote. Neither are defense of druggies' "rights", baby-killer's "rights" and lavender "rights." Even Rockefeller was right on drugs while his family funded Planned Barrenhood. Goldwater was wrong in that he supported baby-killing and lavender hoopla.

However inconvenient it may be to the delusions of the libertoonians, we are being attacked by Islamofascism. There was a time when we were threatened by soviet communism. We dealt with the latter and we will not smooch the patoots of he former.

The conservative movement is a lot more than mere organized cheapskatism. Strip the movement down to to tightwadism and substitute brainless libertarian policies on social issues for morality and see how the GOP or any other substitute will get less than 10% of the vote. There are reasons why the Constitution Party and the Libertarian Party and the JBS are not even vaguely competitive with the Greens and other nutcase parties much less with real political parties and reasons why the Paulistinians got a big 4.5% of just the GOP primary vote.

Chronic malcontentism and designer radicalism detached from factual reality are NOT a prescription for political success in the USA and never will be. That you and others are frustrated that no significant number of Americans has the slightest interest in your policy prescriptions is understandable. That you imagine that you may triumph over common sense is not. It is nothing but a pseudo-"rightist" reprise of the sans culottes in the streets of Paris in the 1790s and just as modest and reasonable as their guillotine.

[jmc813]

Let’s see. He can’t hold on to his congressional seat, and now he thinks he can be president. Nuts.

Don't get me wrong, I harbor no illusions that Barr could win. It would just be nice not to feel like a total whore on Election Day.

[BlackElk]

See #29. God bless!

[jmc813]

I think she was talking about Bob Barr

I didn't realize that moonMAN62 was a chick.

[jmc813]

I knew this thread wouldn’t be complete without diarrhea-of-the-mouth boy chiming in. Paleopaleopaleopaleopaleopaleopaleopaleopaleo......

[Moonman62]

Who are you talking about? I’m talking about Bob Barr.

[Mr. Silverback]

Nice!

[Jeff Head]

"I asked [the contact] how that was coming along and he told me that Rep. Paul has turned down the offer, and that [the contact] was no longer interested in seeing what happened in '92 (Perot) happen again this year and give the Dem the White House."

Not to worry, Bob Barr's run on the Libertarian ticket can still accomplish the same. [/sarc]

[mnehrling]

Oops, sorry, I was thinking of the person I was responding to, bat lady.

[Liberty Valance]

bttt

[tacticalogic]

The conservative movement is a lot more than mere organized cheapskatism. Strip the movement down to to tightwadism and substitute brainless libertarian policies on social issues for morality and see how the GOP or any other substitute will get less than 10% of the vote. There are reasons why the Constitution Party and the Libertarian Party and the JBS are not even vaguely competitive with the Greens and other nutcase parties much less with real political parties and reasons why the Paulistinians got a big 4.5% of just the GOP primary vote.

Excellent ideas. Let's characterize wanting the federal government to actually operate within it's constitutionally limited authority as "tightwadism" and "cheapskateism". Then let's get federal legislation that relies on penumbras and emanations re-cast as "morality". That'll do the "conservative movement" proud.

[jmc813]

Let's characterize wanting the federal government to actually operate within it's constitutionally limited authority as "tightwadism" and "cheapskateism".

BlackElk is an admitted theocrat who thinks that at a government level, the Constitution is secondary to religious principles.

[Mr. Silverback]

Paleopaleopaleopaleopaleopaleopaleopaleopaleo

Pocketa-pocketa-pocketa.

[jmc813]

What does pocketa mean?

[xjcsa]

According to the former head of the bin Laden unit, Ron Paul’s the only candidate who’s got it right on the WOT as far as the reason we’re being attacked and our foreign entanglements. All the others, it seems, try to sell the idea that muslim radicals woke up one day and decided to kill Americans (and themselves in the process) simply because they hate our freedom and way of life.

Ron Paul's foreign policy amounts to naming Bin Laden as Secretary of State.

[ROP_RIP]

The guy’s got a point. People turn out in droves to vote on hot-button social issues. To many voters, these issues are more important and relevant than the rather narrow question of government spending.

[tacticalogic]

The guy’s got a point. People turn out in droves to vote on hot-button social issues. To many voters, these issues are more important and relevant than the rather narrow question of government spending.

Then what's the difference between "conservativism" and "populism"?

[Mr. Silverback]

Google pocketa-pocketa-pocketa and find out.

[Designer]

"..I also see no reason to assume he was breaking his promise."

Maybe not you, but other FReepers have said so many times.

I think wideawake is one who assumes the worst of Ron Paul.

[tacticalogic]

BlackElk is an admitted theocrat who thinks that at a government level, the Constitution is secondary to religious principles.

He definitely isn't happy about what Joseph Story had to say on the subject of papists.

[tacticalogic]

Google pocketa-pocketa-pocketa and find out.

Or just replace it with any generic insult of your choice.

[jmc813]

Google pocketa-pocketa-pocketa and find out.

Gotcha. For a minute I was mixing up poketa with that STD I picked up in Tijuana a few years back.