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Swedes Find Viking-Era Arab Coins
BBC ^ | 4-4-2008

Posted on 04/04/2008 7:50:12 AM PDT by blam

Swedes find Viking-era Arab coins

The Arab coins reveal where they were minted and the date

Swedish archaeologists have discovered a rare hoard of Viking-age silver Arab coins near Stockholm's Arlanda airport.

About 470 coins were found on 1 April at an early Iron Age burial site. They date from the 7th to 9th Century, when Viking traders travelled widely.

There has been no similar find in that part of Sweden since the 1880s.

Most of the coins were minted in Baghdad and Damascus, but some came from Persia and North Africa, said archaeologist Karin Beckman-Thoor.

The team from the Swedish National Heritage Board had just started removing a stone cairn at the site "when we suddenly found one coin and couldn't understand why it was there", she told the BBC News website.

"We continued digging and found more coins and realised it was a Viking-age hoard." The coins were left there in about AD850, she said.

Such Viking hoards usually come from Gotland - a large Swedish island in the Baltic Sea, she explained.

"No Viking was buried at this site - the grave is older. Maybe the Vikings thought the hoard would be protected by ancestors," Ms Beckman-Thoor added. Vikings had settled in a village nearby.

The Vikings travelled widely in their longships in the Baltic region and Russia from the late 8th to the 11th Century. They are known to have travelled as far as North Africa and Constantinople (now Istanbul).


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KEYWORDS: arabcoins; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; sweden; swedes; thevikings; viking; vikings

1 posted on 04/04/2008 7:50:13 AM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 04/04/2008 7:50:34 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

WOW! Talk about life imitating art! Antonio Banderas was in a movie about an Arab Merchant Prince who traveled to the Viking lands and fought alongside them!...............


3 posted on 04/04/2008 7:55:20 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: blam

4 posted on 04/04/2008 7:55:27 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: blam
Probably lost the coins after drinking.
5 posted on 04/04/2008 7:57:47 AM PDT by BGHater ($2300 is the limit of your Free Speech.)
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To: blam

One lecture I recently heard cited a jade Buddha statue turning up in a discovered Viking hoard. The distances and the variety of cultures the Scandinavian traversed is mind boggling in its scope.


6 posted on 04/04/2008 7:58:29 AM PDT by MichiganMan (Remember when Linkin Park wasn't on your mom's radio station?)
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To: Red Badger
I own the movie and love it. It was based loosely on the writings of an Arab ambassador.
7 posted on 04/04/2008 8:00:54 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Red Badger

Talk about art imitating Michael Crichton, read if you haven’t Eaters of the Dead about Vikings way down yonder, which cites, by the way, everybody’s favorite Mad Arab, Abdul Alhazred.


8 posted on 04/04/2008 8:02:11 AM PDT by Ruddles
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To: Ruddles

Maybe they fell out of Richard Widmark’s pockets when he swam from Morocco to Norway in The Longships?


9 posted on 04/04/2008 8:06:37 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: blam

Judging from the holes in the tops of a few, they could have been used as ornamentation also (like some pretty dress that someone picked up while pillaging south).


10 posted on 04/04/2008 8:09:44 AM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: massgopguy

Yep, that was one impressive swim. However, the distance record is yet held by Buster Crabbe, who butterflied across the Aether from the planet Mongo back to Doctor Zarkov’s laboratory atop Mount Palomar.


11 posted on 04/04/2008 8:11:28 AM PDT by Ruddles
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To: blam

Good chance this was money from Arab muslim slave traders buying some of the Vikings captives.


12 posted on 04/04/2008 8:26:12 AM PDT by federal
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To: Ruddles

Given the three choices we have for POTUS, Ming doesn’t look so bad.


13 posted on 04/04/2008 8:34:13 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Red Badger

That was a great movie!


14 posted on 04/04/2008 8:38:58 AM PDT by Southerngl
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To: blam
Note how these Muslim coins have "graven images".

The early Muslim coinage copied the designs of the coinage of the Sasanian Empire the Muslims had overthrown as the local population was familiar with the design.

Although the Muslim coinage carried Arabic inscriptions, the old designs were retained, sometimes even to the point of retaining the images of the Zoroastrian Fire Altars.


(Note the coin at the right hand side with the Fire Altar image.)

These designs remained in use for approximately 200 years and, gradually, the Islamic coinage rid itself of all "graven images".

15 posted on 04/04/2008 8:44:17 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: MichiganMan; SunkenCiv
"One lecture I recently heard cited a jade Buddha statue turning up in a discovered Viking hoard."

An article about that was post on FR.

16 posted on 04/04/2008 8:49:51 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam
I read a story a few years ago in National Geopgraphic (IIRC) about the Vikings coming down the rivers of Russia and showing up outside Istanbul in the harbor. The head whoever of the city came out in a ship with gold and coins and the Viking sailed off with the tribute money.

This story does not seem surprising.

17 posted on 04/04/2008 8:51:51 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: Ruddles
...everybody’s favorite Mad Arab, Abdul Alhazred.

H.P. Lovecraft's nom de plume........

18 posted on 04/04/2008 8:55:06 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: purpleraine

http://www.arild-hauge.com/eraids.htm


19 posted on 04/04/2008 8:55:43 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: Ruddles

The Michael Crighton book, “Eaters of the Dead” (movie 13th Warrior) is loosely based on 7 translation of the Arab Ibn Fadan who came from what is now Baghdad.

The book is semi-fiction but based on the translations of an ancient diary of Ibn Fadn.

Theory goes that that the enemies that were harassing the Vikings were actually the last remnants of Neanderthals.


20 posted on 04/04/2008 9:01:10 AM PDT by pblax8
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To: purpleraine
TI read a story a few years ago in National Geopgraphic (IIRC) about the Vikings coming down the rivers of Russia and showing up outside Istanbul in the harbor.

In the tenth century a group of them were actually incorporated into a royal guard by the emperor Basil II, as he (probably wisely) didn't trust the native military, and the Byzantines respected the Scandinavians' martial skills. They were called the Varanngian Guard. I want to say that "Varanngian" loosely meant "The sworn ones"... but I think its also the term the Byzantines used for the Norse in general.

21 posted on 04/04/2008 9:10:17 AM PDT by MichiganMan (Remember when Linkin Park wasn't on your mom's radio station?)
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To: MichiganMan

Thanx


22 posted on 04/04/2008 9:13:26 AM PDT by purpleraine
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23 posted on 04/04/2008 9:24:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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Buddha statue from 6th c found in Viking hoard in Helgo, Sweden
Biblical Archaeology Review | March/April 2005 | “Worldwide” editor
Posted on 04/26/2005 11:26:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1391864/posts

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24 posted on 04/04/2008 9:34:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: Ruddles
Well, it's clear that YOU "get it," at least, whilst the others...do not. Abdul Alhazred, indeed! "Loosely based on the writings of an Arab Ambassador...!" Ha! Phtooey!

Chrichton's bibliography was, initially, quite disturbing, but was clearly meant as an inside joke.

Extra points to Ruddles, for catching it.

Sauron

25 posted on 04/04/2008 9:40:09 AM PDT by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: Polybius

Thanks, that’s interesting.


26 posted on 04/04/2008 10:00:09 AM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ah! Thanks. I was hoping you’d also post the one about the Viking (queen?/royalty?) with Egyptian or Middle Eastern DNA.


27 posted on 04/04/2008 10:49:44 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Ruddles

The Michael Crighton book, “Eaters of the Dead” (movie 13th Warrior) is loosely based on 7 translation of the Arab Ibn Fadan who came from what is now Baghdad.

The book is semi-fiction but based on the translations of an ancient diary of Ibn Fadn.

Theory goes that that the enemies that were harassing the Vikings were actually the last remnants of Neanderthals.


28 posted on 04/04/2008 12:54:51 PM PDT by pblax8
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To: pblax8

Love that lost Neanderthal lore. You know, Friedrich von Junzt, who wrote the Unaussprechlichen Kulten, claimed Neanderthals lived on, at least through the 16th century in a vast cave system under the Spanish Pyrenees, and were worshipped by various proto-Dionysian mystery cults, as well as later pagan state religions throughout Europe. Some even whisper today of Vatican couriers disappearing for months at a time into the Basque backcountry. At risk of being accused of cheezy viral publicity mongering, I will say that a friend in the movie business told me M. Knight Shamilan is working on something along these lines and is planning to play Pope of the Neanderthals himself.


29 posted on 04/04/2008 2:02:21 PM PDT by Ruddles
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To: blam

Oooh, not sure I remember that one.


30 posted on 04/04/2008 10:26:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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