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ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION ALERT Capitol Switchboard: 202-224-3121---force vote on SAVE Act (HR 4088)
NumbersUSA,com ^ | 4/4/08

Posted on 04/04/2008 9:58:53 AM PDT by Liz

Faxes and phone calls to New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Alaska during Congress's two-week Easter break have delivered four more signers of the Discharge Petition to force a US House floor vote on Rep. Heath Shuler's SAVE Act (H.R. 4088) to stop companies from hiring illegal aliens. If the SAVE Act goes into law, you will see a mass exodus of illegal aliens over the next several years.

SIGNERS Alaska -- Rep. Young New York -- Rep. Walsh Ohio -- Rep. Tiberi Pennsylvania -- Rep. Kanjorski

Out of 435 Members of the House, 185 have now signed the Discharge Petition, which is a rarely used procedure to move legislation that is blocked by House leadership......a phenomenal number. But it will take 218 signers to force Speaker of the House Pelosi to bring the SAVE Act to a vote.

We need 33 more signers.

ACT 1: Please go here to make sure you have sent the faxes and made the phone calls posted to move the SAVE Act forward.www.NumbersUSA.com/actionbuffet

ACT 2: Call non-signers from your state. Those w/ Representative already signed can help by pressuring nearby non-signers.

Capitol Switchboard: 202-224-3121

Victory is near -- as close as we were in 1996 when major solutions to our immigration mess slipped through our fingers at the last moment. If the SAVE Act goes into law, you will see a mass exodus of illegal aliens over the next several years. We have to find 33 more allies among the 250 remaining non-signers.

Below are the Representatives identified by NumbersUSA Capitol Hill Team as the most susceptible to requests from constituents. If your Representative is not a signer, you need to keep pushing even if he/she is not on the lists below. The lists below contain our top possibilities, worthy of cross-district and cross-state efforts.

TOP DEMOCRAT TARGETS

These are House Democrats who: won their last election with 51% or less of the vote, are cosponsors of the SAVE Act have not signed the discharge petition

Ron Klein (FL22) Jim Marshall (GA08) Melissa Bean (IL08) Baron Hill (IN09) Patrick Murphy (PA08) Steven Kagen (WI08)

We note winning margins in last elections because, generally, the closer the vote the more a Member needs to listen to our side of the issue.

SECOND-PRIORITY DEMOCRAT TARGETS: These are House Democrats who: won their last election with only 52-56% of the vote, are cosponsors of the SAVE Act have not signed the discharge petition

Leonard Boswell (IA03)- 52% Jason Altmire (PA04) - 52% Kirsten Gillibrand (NY20) – 53% Charlie Melancon (LA03)-55% Joe Sestak (PA07)-56%

These 11 Democrats support the SAVE Act. They have strong political reasons to stand up on our side. Signing will greatly improve their Immigration-Reduction Grades which have already suffered because they haven't signed the Discharge Petition.

A lot of the NON-signers will say that they oppose giving jobs to illegal aliens and that the SAVE Act will keep that from happening. But they'll say they can't sign the Discharge Petition because the SAVE Act should go through the committee process before getting a vote. The problem is that Speaker Pelosi has made it clear during her 15 months in power that she won't allow a vote on any enforcement unless it includes an amnesty for illegal aliens. The only way to significantly increase laws of enforcement is to by-pass the current House leadership. The Discharge Petition -- if signed by 218 people -- will deny Speaker Pelosi the ability to attach any of her amnesty preferences.

If you are a Democrat and not in any of the states where the Democrats listed above reside, please consider calling the Representatives who are in states in your region. Talk Democrat to Democrat. Four dozen Democrats have broken with Party Leadership to co-sponsor SAVE. And 10 of them have really shown courage by signing the Discharge Petition.

PRIORITY REPUBLICAN TARGETS

About 90% of House Republicans have followed their Party Leadership's request that they sign this Discharge Petition. In order for a Republican to NOT sign it now, that Republican must be a huge supporter of hiring illegal aliens ... or one might think that. Here are the remaining House Republicans who have not signed the petition. If you have any of these in your state, don't you have a way of shaming them into joining the rest of the Party? They are listed in alphabetical order by state.

ALABAMA Mike Rogers (AL03)

CALIFORNIA Devin Nunes (CA21) George Radanovich (CA19)

FLORIDA Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (FL18) Lincoln Diaz-Balart (FL21) Mario Diaz-Balart (FL25)

IDAHO Bill Sali (ID01)

ILLINOIS Tim Johnson (IL15)

INDIANA Mark Souder (IN03)

NEW JERSEY Frank LoBiondo (NJ02) Scott Garrett (NJ05)

NEW YORK Vito Fossella (NY13) John McHugh (NY23) Thomas Reynolds (NY26) Randy Kuhl (NY29)

MICHIGAN Vernon Ehlers (MI03) Fred Upton (MI06)

MISSISSIPPI Charles Pickering (MS03)

OHIO David Hobson (OH07) Deborah Pryce (OH15)

TEXAS Ron Paul (TX14)

WASHINGTON Richard Hastings (WA04) Cathy McMorris Rodgers (WA05)

WEST VIRGINIA Shelley Moore Capito (WV02)

Republicans this is for you: We have 175 Republicans willing to force a vote to finally effectively remove U.S. jobs from illegal aliens. But the 24 Republicans listed above are standing up for the ability of companies to continue to choose illegal aliens over American workers. Can they possibly justify this stance? Ask them.

Personally, I think most of these just don't realize how exposed they are to public ridicule or that their lack of action is such a prominent role in protecting outlaw businesses. Some may just have been careless in paying attention. Others may have some legitimate concerns about process but are failing to grasp the overall balance of this situation. Only constituents can push them to make the right decision.


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; immigration; save

1 posted on 04/04/2008 9:58:53 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

Reference Ping


2 posted on 04/04/2008 10:00:37 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Tennessee Nana

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3 posted on 04/04/2008 10:06:36 AM PDT by Liz (I spent $60 million and got one lousy delegate. Rudy Giuliani)
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To: Liz
Faxes and phone calls to New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Alaska during Congress's two-week Easter break have delivered four more signers of the Discharge Petition to force a US House floor vote on Rep. Heath Shuler's SAVE Act (H.R. 4088) to stop companies from hiring illegal aliens.

This whole SAVE Act is a farce!! We already have immigration laws that address this specific issue. It's called the Federal Immigration and Nationality Act! Just enforce the existing laws! We don't need more laws that will only be ignored. Why is this such a hard freakin concept for everyone to understand?

Federal Immigration and Nationality Act

Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii) Recruitment and Employment of Illegal Aliens Encouraging and Harboring Illegal Aliens Enforcement RICO —Citizen Recourse Tax Crimes Comment

Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii) "Any person who . . . encourages or induces an illegal alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each illegal alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."

Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):

A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:

· assists an illegal alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or · encourages that illegal alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or · knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions. ·

Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime. Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his or her work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.

Recruitment and Employment of Illegal Aliens

It is unlawful to hire an alien, to recruit an alien, or to refer an illegal alien for a fee, knowing the illegal alien is unauthorized to work in the United States. It is equally unlawful to continue to employ an illegal alien knowing that the illegal alien is unauthorized to work.

It is unlawful to hire any individual for employment in the United States without complying with employment eligibility verification requirements. Requirements include examination of identity documents and completion of Form I-9 for every employee hired. Employers must retain all I-9s, and, with three days' advance notice, the forms must be made available for inspection. Employment includes any service or labor performed for any type of remuneration within the United States, with the exception of sporadic domestic service by an individual in a private home. "Day laborers" or other casual workers engaged in any compensated activity (with the above exception) are employees for purposes of immigration law. An employer includes an agent or anyone acting directly or indirectly in the interest of the employer. For purposes of verification of authorization to work, employer also means an independent contractor, or a contractor other than the person using the illegal alien labor.

The use of temporary or short-term contracts cannot be used to circumvent the employment authorization verification requirements. If employment is to be for less than the usual three days allowed for completing the I-9 Form requirement, the form must be completed immediately at the time of hire.

An employer has constructive knowledge that an employee is an illegal unauthorized worker if a reasonable person would infer it from the facts. Constructive knowledge constituting a violation of federal law has been found where (1) the I-9 employment eligibility form has not been properly completed, including supporting documentation, (2) the employer has learned from other individuals, media reports, or any source of information available to the employer that the alien is unauthorized to work, or (3) the employer acts with reckless disregard for the legal consequences of permitting a third party to provide or introduce an illegal alien into the employer's work force. Knowledge cannot be inferred solely on the basis of an individual's accent or foreign appearance.

Actual specific knowledge is not required. For example, a newspaper article stating that ballrooms depend on an illegal alien work force of dance hostesses was held by the courts to be a reasonable ground for suspicion that unlawful conduct had occurred.

It is illegal for nonprofit or religious organizations to knowingly assist an employer to violate employment sanctions, regardless of claims that their convictions require them to assist illegal aliens. Harboring or aiding illegal aliens is not protected by the First Amendment. It is a felony to establish a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of federal immigration law. Violators may be fined or imprisoned for up to five years.

Encouraging and Harboring Illegal Aliens

It is a violation of law for any person to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection in any place, including any building or means of transportation, any illegal alien who is in the United States in violation of law. Harboring means any conduct that tends to substantially facilitate an alien to remain in the U.S. illegally. The sheltering need not be clandestine, and harboring covers aliens arrested outdoors, as well as in a building. This provision includes harboring an alien who entered the U.S. legally but has since lost his legal status.

An employer can be convicted of the felony of harboring illegal aliens who are his employees if he takes actions in reckless disregard of their illegal status, such as ordering them to obtain false documents, altering records, obstructing INS inspections, or taking other actions that facilitate the alien's illegal employment. Any person who within any 12-month period hires ten or more individuals with actual knowledge that they are illegal aliens or unauthorized workers is guilty of felony harboring. It is also a felony to encourage or induce an alien to come to or reside in the U.S. knowing or recklessly disregarding the fact that the alien's entry or residence is in violation of the law. This crime applies to any person, rather than just employers of illegal aliens. Courts have ruled that "encouraging" includes counseling illegal aliens to continue working in the U.S. or assisting them to complete applications with false statements or obvious errors. The fact that the alien is a refugee fleeing persecution is not a defense to this felony, since U.S. law and the UN Protocol on Refugees both require that a refugee must report to immigration authorities without delay upon entry to the U.S.

The penalty for felony harboring is a fine and imprisonment for up to five years. The penalty for felony alien smuggling is a fine and up to ten years' imprisonment. Where the crime causes serious bodily injury or places the life of any person in jeopardy, the penalty is a fine and up to twenty years' imprisonment. If the criminal smuggling or harboring results in the death of any person, the penalty can include life imprisonment. Convictions for aiding, abetting, or conspiracy to commit alien smuggling or harboring, carry the same penalties. Courts can impose consecutive prison sentences for each alien smuggled or harbored. A court may order a convicted smuggler to pay restitution if the illegal alien smuggled qualifies as a victim under the Victim and Witness Protection Act. Conspiracy to commit crimes of sheltering, harboring, or employing illegal aliens is a separate federal offense punishable by a fine of up to $10,000 or five years' imprisonment.

Enforcement

A person or entity having knowledge of a violation or potential violation of employer sanctions provisions may submit a signed written complaint to the INS office with jurisdiction over the business or residence of the potential violator, whether an employer, employee, or agent. The complaint must include the names and addresses of both the complainant and the violator, and detailed factual allegations, including date, time, and place of the potential violation, and the specific conduct alleged to be a violation of employer sanctions. By regulation, the INS will only investigate third-party complaints that have a reasonable probability of validity. Designated INS officers and employees, and all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws, may make an arrest for violation of smuggling or harboring illegal aliens.

State and local law enforcement officials have the general power to investigate and arrest violators of federal immigration statutes without prior INS knowledge or approval, as long as they are authorized to do so by state law. There is no extant federal limitation on this authority. The 1996 immigration control legislation passed by Congress was intended to encourage states and local agencies to participate in the process of enforcing federal immigration laws. Immigration officers and local law enforcement officers may detain an individual for a brief warrantless interrogation where circumstances create a reasonable suspicion that the individual is illegally present in the U.S. Specific facts constituting a reasonable suspicion include evasive, nervous, or erratic behavior; dress or speech indicating foreign citizenship; and presence in an area known to contain a concentration of illegal aliens. Hispanic appearance alone is not sufficient. Immigration officers and police must have a valid warrant or valid employer's consent to enter workplaces or residences. Any vehicle used to transport or harbor illegal aliens, or used as a substantial part of an activity that encourages illegal aliens to come to or reside in the U.S. may be seized by an immigration officer and is subject to forfeiture. The forfeiture power covers any conveyances used within the U.S.

RICO —Citizen Recourse

Private persons and entities may initiate civil suits to obtain injunctions and treble damages against enterprises that conspire to or actually violate federal alien smuggling, harboring, or document fraud statutes, under the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO). The pattern of racketeering activity is defined as commission of two or more of the listed crimes. A RICO enterprise can be any individual legal entity, or a group of individuals who are not a legal entity but are associated in fact, and can include nonprofit associations.

Tax Crimes

Employers who aid or abet the preparation of false tax returns by failing to pay income or Social Security taxes for illegal alien employees, or who knowingly make payments using false names or Social Security numbers, are subject to IRS criminal and civil sanctions. U.S. nationals who have suffered intentional discrimination because of citizenship or national origin by an employer with more than three employees may file a complaint within 180 days of the discriminatory act with the Special Counsel for Immigration-Related Unfair Employment Practices, U.S. Department of Justice. In addition to the federal statutes summarized, state laws and local ordinances controlling fair labor practices, workers compensation, zoning, safe housing and rental property, nuisance, licensing, street vending, and solicitations by contractors may also apply to activities that involve illegal aliens.

Comment:

A comment and a published quote by Robert Gaffney, Attorney and County Executive of Suffolk County, LI, NY:

The statutory foundation of United States immigration law has always been the jurisdiction of the federal government, Congress and the federal courts. The preeminent laws concerning the employment of illegal aliens are found in the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. §~ 1101-1503), as amended by the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 CIRCA).

The law states it is a crime to assist an illegal alien who lacks employment authorization by referring him to an employer, or by acting as his or her employer, or as an agent for an employer. 8 U.S.C.S. § 1324a(a)(1)(A) (Lexis 1997). Furthermore, it is unlawful to hire an individual for employment without complying with the employment eligibility requirements for every person hired. 8 U.S.C.S. § 1324a(a)(l)(B) (Lexis 1997). Moreover, conduct tending substantially to facilitate illegal aliens remaining in the United States illegally, where there is knowledge or a reckless disregard of an illegal alien s unlawful status, is a crime, with escalating penalties, encompassed within the provisions of 1324. 8 U.S.C.S. § 1324(a)(l)(A)(iii) (Lexis 1997); United States v. Kim. 193 F-3d 567 (2d Cir. 1999), are considered employees for purposes of immigration law.
4 posted on 04/04/2008 10:09:05 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Liz; All

Diane is trying to add this to the SAVE act.

CA ACTION ALERT! Dianne Feinstein proposes new amnesty for ag workers!

Senator Dianne Feinstein is developing a new amnesty proposal that would allow illegal aliens working in agriculture to receive five-year visas.
Feinstein’s plan, tentatively called the Emergency Agriculture Relief Act of 2008, is a scaled-down version of the AgJobs amnesty bill she introduced previously. Due to widespread public opposition to any amnesty effort, this bill does not offer an absolute “path to citizenship” to illegal aliens, but will buy more time until political changes may allow for an even broader amnesty.

to learn more and to send a message to Senator Feinstein!
http://capwiz.com/caps/utr/1/FZBLIGUVHW/BFVFIGUWXG/18658795


5 posted on 04/04/2008 10:10:46 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: AuntB; All

My concern is that we continue to hound leadership to pass the SAVE Act and meantime, someone like Dianne is successful in adding a provision for Amnesty. We’ll be spinning like tops trying then to get it stopped while the pro illegal alien leadership touts they are doing just as we asked...voting in favor.

Will the Discharge Provision prevent this from happening?


6 posted on 04/04/2008 10:37:42 AM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: Liz

I’ve already contacted Shelley Moore Capito about this. How much time do we have? I will be seeing Shelley on the 11th and can petition her face to face over cocktails,,,er Pepsi.


7 posted on 04/04/2008 10:39:08 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: Man50D; Tennessee Nana; Kimberly GG; AuntB
You're vehement we shouldn't....

..NUMBERS USA says we should...

...Kim says Diane will circumvent it...

WHERE IS THE TRUTH?

8 posted on 04/04/2008 10:55:19 AM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: Guenevere; Man50D

“You’re vehement we shouldn’t....

..NUMBERS USA says we should...

...Kim says Diane will circumvent it...

WHERE IS THE TRUTH? “

Well, crappola. The truth? Somewhere in between, I imagine.
Man50D is correct in that we have plenty of laws about all this.

I give up!


9 posted on 04/04/2008 11:10:09 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Liz

Just e-mailed Rogers.


10 posted on 04/04/2008 11:12:07 AM PDT by mtnwmn (mtnwmn)
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To: AuntB; Liz; Man50D
FWIW, looks like Lou Barletta likes it....

Barletta: Kanjorski stalling border bill

11 posted on 04/04/2008 11:16:47 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: AuntB
Wait a minute...wait a minute....

I'm on your side!!!

I was rushing, and I worded it badly.

So sorry!!

12 posted on 04/04/2008 11:19:28 AM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: Guenevere

You’re on my side? Which side? LOL....I’m so confused over this SAVE act, I don’t know what to think....and I don’t want to study it. I’ve studied so many of these things my brain hurts.


13 posted on 04/04/2008 11:21:39 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: mewzilla

Yes, and I believe Hunter and TAncredo both signed on.


14 posted on 04/04/2008 11:22:30 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: AuntB
I'm on the side of right!...

..so I must be on your side ....LOL

15 posted on 04/04/2008 11:36:05 AM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: Man50D
FWIW, didn't we already have immigration laws when they tried to ram the amnesty bill down our gullets.

Just asking...

NumbersUSA stays on top of things and they were the vanguard over amnesty.

Just stating..

16 posted on 04/04/2008 11:39:26 AM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: Liz

Thanks for the PING


17 posted on 04/04/2008 11:40:16 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Kimberly GG

“My concern is that we continue to hound leadership to pass the SAVE Act and meantime, someone like Dianne is successful in adding a provision for Amnesty. We’ll be spinning like tops trying then to get it stopped while the pro illegal alien leadership touts they are doing just as we asked...voting in favor.

Will the Discharge Provision prevent this from happening?”

A senator can try to attach amendments to any piece of legislation, whether the amendment is even related to the primary legislation. They tried to attach some amnesty provisions to last year’s general appropriation bill (or maybe the defense bill).

No, a discharge petition won’t prevent amendments from being attached, and neither will much of anything else. The only thing that can prevent amendments from being attached might be the majority leader could prevent it, and cloture could be invoked ending the amendment process, or some arcane parliamentary maneuver. But the potential for amendments, good and bad, is always there. If avoiding amendments is the goal, no primary legislation would ever be introduced.


18 posted on 04/04/2008 12:01:06 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Liz

There is a form I-9 that is used when hiring a new person.
It is already illegal to hire a person who does not produce the proper documents when you are filling out the I-9.
I realize that phony documents are often presented to an employer.
Why cannot the Soc Sec Admin have an electronic system that allows an employer to verify data in a matter of seconds?
Mastercard manages to verify my ability to charge something is less than 10 seconds.


19 posted on 04/04/2008 12:15:28 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Liz

Kanjorski is an incumbent Dem. He is in a tough race with the Rep challenger, Lou Barletta, who is the Mayor of Hazelton. Barletta cracked down on illegals. When he was reelected, he was on both the Dem and Rep tickets. I guess illegal immigration is a bigger issue than the MSM want to admit.


20 posted on 04/04/2008 1:08:49 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Liz

Ping


21 posted on 04/04/2008 9:58:33 PM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: Liz; Brad's Gramma; BufordP; eeevil conservative; HonestConservative; Enterprise

“Faxes and phone calls to New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Alaska during Congress’s two-week Easter break have delivered four more signers of the Discharge Petition to force a US House floor vote on Rep. Heath Shuler’s SAVE Act (H.R. 4088) to stop companies from hiring illegal aliens. If the SAVE Act goes into law, you will see a mass exodus of illegal aliens over the next several years.”


This is one of many angles of defense/attack we must use PING!


22 posted on 04/05/2008 6:02:01 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Liz; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Action Ping!


23 posted on 04/05/2008 6:45:48 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
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To: HiJinx; Congressman Billybob; MitchellC

Thanks for the ping. Ping. Ping. BTTT!


24 posted on 04/05/2008 8:06:26 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Liz
The sad thing is that all this energy is being expended on the SAVE Bill that Heath Shuler invented for the purpose of saving his hide in the 11th District of NC. He ran as a "conservative" with "mountain values."

Then he went to D.C. and voted with Nancy Pelosi 81% of the time, and with the national unions almost 100% of the time. Now an election is around the corner, and he's trying to pretend, again, that he's a conservative.

I know all this because I'm in the Republican primary in NC 11 with intent to paint Shuler for exactly what he is, and end his congressional career at two years.

If you REALLY want enforcement against illegal immigration, help me beat Shuler. I won't kill the effort on day one by voting for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker.

John / Billybob

25 posted on 04/05/2008 8:49:14 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob ( www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: HonestConservative

Bump


26 posted on 04/06/2008 9:40:15 AM PDT by HonestConservative (Taxpaying Slave Class Xenophobe)
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To: Congressman Billybob
....the SAVE Bill that Heath Shuler invented for the purpose of saving his hide in the 11th District of NC. He ran as a "conservative" with "mountain values." Then he went to D.C. and voted with Nancy Pelosi 81% of the time, and with the national unions almost 100% of the time. Now an election is around the corner, and he's trying to pretend, again, that he's a conservative....

We call that having a " Come to Jesus" moment. RINO Rooty Giuliani was good at "seeing the light" at selected caucus/primaries----that's why he tanked like a deadweight going down a 300 ft cistern.

27 posted on 04/06/2008 1:32:04 PM PDT by Liz (I spent $60 million and got one lousy delegate. Rudy Giuliani)
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